Mercedes Engine

[abhi]

Hi,
When I start season 3 from season 2 and from season 2 from season 1 with Mercedes, the engine performance does not go up from season 1 even if I have upgraded all the buildings to the highest level. And if you don't win the championship by season 3 with Mercedes then you are fired. If the building upgrades don't help with the engine performance and you don't get the top speed, then after season 3 it is a waste to play with Mercedes. Anyone has any suggestions as to how to rectify the engine performance?

[fuskarN]

i dont think the engine performance changes for any manufacturer at all

[BadassRockett]

I'm curious what buildings you have upgraded which you think will mean the engine develops?

I've not played as a team which makes their own engines so it could be there are options I'm missing but as far as I know there isn't any engine development at the moment so I think you may be assuming it will do something that it isn't designed to do....

[H3M1V3]

Originally posted by abhi:

Hi,
When I start season 3 from season 2 and from season 2 from season 1 with Mercedes, the engine performance does not go up from season 1 even if I have upgraded all the buildings to the highest level. And if you don't win the championship by season 3 with Mercedes then you are fired. If the building upgrades don't help with the engine performance and you don't get the top speed, then after season 3 it is a waste to play with Mercedes. Anyone has any suggestions as to how to rectify the engine performance?

Nothing improves engine Performance. The buildings improve acceleration and top Speed, but Not through more engine power. All aerodynamics what either gives Speed or downforce.

Engine suppliers only act as Base in certain areas on which you build up.

[abhi]

Originally posted by H3M1V3:

Originally posted by abhi:

Hi,
When I start season 3 from season 2 and from season 2 from season 1 with Mercedes, the engine performance does not go up from season 1 even if I have upgraded all the buildings to the highest level. And if you don't win the championship by season 3 with Mercedes then you are fired. If the building upgrades don't help with the engine performance and you don't get the top speed, then after season 3 it is a waste to play with Mercedes. Anyone has any suggestions as to how to rectify the engine performance?

Nothing improves engine Performance. The buildings improve acceleration and top Speed, but Not through more engine power. All aerodynamics what either gives Speed or downforce.

Engine suppliers only act as Base in certain areas on which you build up.

If that is the case that the engine performance does not improve, then even after upgrading all the buildings of design and performance, winning the Championship with the Mercedes team is next to impossible in 3 seasons. I think the game needs to be upgraded to enhance the engine performance of Mercedes else to win the championship, you either take a Ferrari or a RB engine

[Jimbob]

Originally posted by abhi:

Originally posted by H3M1V3:

Nothing improves engine Performance. The buildings improve acceleration and top Speed, but Not through more engine power. All aerodynamics what either gives Speed or downforce.

Engine suppliers only act as Base in certain areas on which you build up.

If that is the case that the engine performance does not improve, then even after upgrading all the buildings of design and performance, winning the Championship with the Mercedes team is next to impossible in 3 seasons. I think the game needs to be upgraded to enhance the engine performance of Mercedes else to win the championship, you either take a Ferrari or a RB engine

I'm currently top of the Constructors Championship with Mercedes around halfway through season 2. Managed to win the Drivers Championship with Lewis in season 1, mainly due to Ferrari imploding (very realistic!!).

I think for Mercedes you need to focus your design upgrades on Underfloor and Rear Wing as these will make the most improvement to your Top Speed.

[abhi]

Originally posted by Jimbob:

Originally posted by abhi:

If that is the case that the engine performance does not improve, then even after upgrading all the buildings of design and performance, winning the Championship with the Mercedes team is next to impossible in 3 seasons. I think the game needs to be upgraded to enhance the engine performance of Mercedes else to win the championship, you either take a Ferrari or a RB engine

I'm currently top of the Constructors Championship with Mercedes around halfway through season 2. Managed to win the Drivers Championship with Lewis in season 1, mainly due to Ferrari imploding (very realistic!!).

I think for Mercedes you need to focus your design upgrades on Underfloor and Rear Wing as these will make the most improvement to your Top Speed.

Well I guess you were quite lucky to beat both RB and Ferrari in season 1. I am ending with 40+ seconds gap behind either the 4th position of RB / Ferrari and only making P5

[H3M1V3]

Originally posted by abhi:

Originally posted by H3M1V3:

Nothing improves engine Performance. The buildings improve acceleration and top Speed, but Not through more engine power. All aerodynamics what either gives Speed or downforce.

Engine suppliers only act as Base in certain areas on which you build up.

If that is the case that the engine performance does not improve, then even after upgrading all the buildings of design and performance, winning the Championship with the Mercedes team is next to impossible in 3 seasons. I think the game needs to be upgraded to enhance the engine performance of Mercedes else to win the championship, you either take a Ferrari or a RB engine

... im dominating with renault 1/2 every single quali and race. you dont need power lol. RBPT with 100% power is worst engine supplier btw. in season 1 i made 4th place with over 300 points with aston martin and their mercedes engine. if you think power is best you are living under a stone.

[abhi]

Originally posted by H3M1V3:

Originally posted by abhi:

If that is the case that the engine performance does not improve, then even after upgrading all the buildings of design and performance, winning the Championship with the Mercedes team is next to impossible in 3 seasons. I think the game needs to be upgraded to enhance the engine performance of Mercedes else to win the championship, you either take a Ferrari or a RB engine

... im dominating with renault 1/2 every single quali and race. you dont need power lol. RBPT with 100% power is worst engine supplier btw. in season 1 i made 4th place with over 300 points with aston martin and their mercedes engine. if you think power is best you are living under a stone.

Well I'm not able to crack P4 in quali or in the main race. The car is almost 0.5s to 0.8s slower in each lap for Mercedes

[H3M1V3]

Originally posted by abhi:

Originally posted by H3M1V3:

... im dominating with renault 1/2 every single quali and race. you dont need power lol. RBPT with 100% power is worst engine supplier btw. in season 1 i made 4th place with over 300 points with aston martin and their mercedes engine. if you think power is best you are living under a stone.

Well I'm not able to crack P4 in quali or in the main race. The car is almost 0.5s to 0.8s slower in each lap for Mercedes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66A90Mgj1Yo
thats how i do things. idk if hd is done when you watch it. excuse the way i talk, ive got a cold and english isnt my mothertongue.

[93ismola]

Originally posted by abhi:

Originally posted by H3M1V3:

... im dominating with renault 1/2 every single quali and race. you dont need power lol. RBPT with 100% power is worst engine supplier btw. in season 1 i made 4th place with over 300 points with aston martin and their mercedes engine. if you think power is best you are living under a stone.

Well I'm not able to crack P4 in quali or in the main race. The car is almost 0.5s to 0.8s slower in each lap for Mercedes

To win with Mercedes in the first season is difficult, but if you are gonna develop an underfloor and wings (AND RESEARCH) then easily you can win in second season. Engine is really unimportant in this game.

[H3M1V3]

Originally posted by 93ismola:

Originally posted by abhi:

Well I'm not able to crack P4 in quali or in the main race. The car is almost 0.5s to 0.8s slower in each lap for Mercedes

To win with Mercedes in the first season is difficult, but if you are gonna develop an underfloor and wings (AND RESEARCH) then easily you can win in second season. Engine is really unimportant in this game.

Well you dont rlly need to win. I mean Look at Mercedes irl, they nearly catched Up to Ferrari and Ferrari got wins, Mercedes dont. Its about being consistent.

In my First season with Aston a win was Out of the question as Well, except for certain scenarios:

1. Dry/wet race where the tyre Life of the dry tyres on balanced didnt Match or get Close to the dry laps. Cause If it came Close you Had the Same strat and you would struggle against the AI. Otherwise you could Push, since Rain would be imminent anyway.
2. Dry/wet Quali where you get a dry lap in before Rain Hits. I Had 2-4 Ferrari, Red Bull, Mercedes drivers get knocked Out of Q1 Rest in Q2 through that. Then you got a shot.
3. Lucky Crash

[abhi]

Originally posted by 93ismola:

Originally posted by abhi:

Well I'm not able to crack P4 in quali or in the main race. The car is almost 0.5s to 0.8s slower in each lap for Mercedes

To win with Mercedes in the first season is difficult, but if you are gonna develop an underfloor and wings (AND RESEARCH) then easily you can win in second season. Engine is really unimportant in this game.

What should be the research focus? Only the change in terms of regulations next season or all?

[H3M1V3]

Originally posted by abhi:

Originally posted by 93ismola:

To win with Mercedes in the first season is difficult, but if you are gonna develop an underfloor and wings (AND RESEARCH) then easily you can win in second season. Engine is really unimportant in this game.

What should be the research focus? Only the change in terms of regulations next season or all?

Well everything, but in Order. Underfloor, Front Wing, rear Wing, sidepods/suspension, Chassis. Only until you Hit the hardcap, after that the Bonus is way to Low.

[SailMan]

Is there anywhere we can see the hardcap?
I just went from season 4 to 5, and it was a reset/overhaul of ALL car parts. Every single part got hit with 55% and underfloor with 65%.
I am finding it a little hard motivation to go back and play. lol.

Also for the topic starter, if you are relying on engine to improve your car's performance, then not only are you unawares of the rules of formula 1, but you aren't playing this game right either. Engines are frozen for the most part in formula 1.

If you want to improve the top speed, look up the design/research sections of rear wing. That should help you see that you need to design better parts.
You can compare your numbers to those of other teams to see how you stack up.

Out of curiosity, what are your component ranks (top speed) compared to other teams?

[H3M1V3]

Originally posted by SailMan:

Is there anywhere we can see the hardcap?
I just went from season 4 to 5, and it was a reset/overhaul of ALL car parts. Every single part got hit with 55% and underfloor with 65%.
I am finding it a little hard motivation to go back and play. lol.

Also for the topic starter, if you are relying on engine to improve your car's performance, then not only are you unawares of the rules of formula 1, but you aren't playing this game right either. Engines are frozen for the most part in formula 1.

If you want to improve the top speed, look up the design/research sections of rear wing. That should help you see that you need to design better parts.
You can compare your numbers to those of other teams to see how you stack up.

Out of curiosity, what are your component ranks (top speed) compared to other teams?

you just experience it. when you are at 50% you can easily have research that boosts a stat by 10%, while the same focus windtunnel, cfd, etc gives you only ~0.5-1.5% if you go past 80%.