What you think about the Leopard1?

[Captain_Spolding]

What do you think of the Leopard1? For my taste, it is too lightly armored. To be successful with the vehicle you have to use its speed and flank the enemy. I'm looking forward to the Leopard2, where better armor and a 120mm gun come into play! What are your experiences with the Leopard1?

[Memento Mori]

In my opinion, with the rangefinder and the optics, and the MG3's rate of fire, I'd say it is fun to shoot with, wether the target is infantry or tanks. The tank's design did focus on mobility instead of armour, so you do have to play carefully, but it is what it is, just keep your distance and try to be in a hull down position... and also HESH is HE but actually working, so infantry out of trenches is even less of an issue

[Rockdownes]

The reason of the thin armor is because when it was developed tactical thinking believed modern HEAT and similar ammo could defeat any armor so they moved to a good punch for the age (105mm) light weight and speed and a good engine for then (820 hp) this is a cool way to play since is more challenging but if you shot good and then hide and run you can win.

well in my case I also prefeer the Leopard 2A3 that will arrive but for now I usually use when I can the M1IP (with the mod of M1A1) why??? because I love feel overpowered xD

[EL]

For me it's a refreshing experience, maybe somewhat masochistic though!
It has a poor devil's 105mm ammo (no access to Uncle Sam's silver bullets) but has the mobility to shoot and scoot, manouver, flank, retreat and then reappear again out of thin air. West Germany counts on it to gain precious time for the Leopard 2 to arrive, and it will fight persistently!
Obviously it has no reliable armor and a good hit spells trouble for multiple crewmen, but it routinely deflect or absorb a badly aimed 125mm (and I wouldn't be surprised if a future patch would make some hitpoint less resistant than now- for example optics, engine and tracks)...
Nevertheless, It had M1 grade mobility in 1965!
The rangefinder is exotic but I rarely bother stopping to tinker with it, i'd rather use mils or the map, and the always zoomed optic is somewhat confusing lacking as of now a proper commander sight. The gun should be laser precise, but until next patch it has a known parallax problem so you have to offset aim unrealistically.
TLDR if You can stand M60A1 AOS, you will surely like Leopard then!

[Captain_Spolding]

Originally posted by Rockdownes:

The reason of the thin armor is because when it was developed tactical thinking believed modern HEAT and similar ammo could defeat any armor so they moved to a good punch for the age (105mm) light weight and speed and a good engine for then (820 hp) this is a cool way to play since is more challenging but if you shot good and then hide and run you can win.

well in my case I also prefeer the Leopard 2A3 that will arrive but for now I usually use when I can the M1IP (with the mod of M1A1) why??? because I love feel overpowered xD

Yes, I know the real reason for the thin armor. I also prefer to play the M1P and am looking forward to the Leopard2 which is a perfect mix of speed, armor and firepower. I suspect it is the best gun at the time. But use the 120mm DM23 (based on M735). DM33 was only introduced with A4

[Delta Dagger]

Originally posted by EL:

For me it's a refreshing experience, maybe somewhat masochistic though!
It has a poor devil's 105mm ammo (no access to Uncle Sam's silver bullets) but has the mobility to shoot and scoot, manouver, flank, retreat and then reappear again out of thin air. West Germany counts on it to gain precious time for the Leopard 2 to arrive, and it will fight persistently!

This is why I'm enjoying it. It's a sports car among trucks.

[BFC_ParaBellum]

I like the Leopard. It's an ambush predator. Use your excellent mobility to get into good, hull-down positions, preferrably on the enemy's flank. Don't do frontal engagements if you can avoid it. We gotPanzergrenadiers for that stuff... If you really have to, find cover, move out, fire a shot, reverse into cover, move and appear somewhere else.

[Eagletanker]

its really fun, I like it, but not as much as I like the t-64s and t-80s. I do wish my loaders would stop dying.

[plc]

It's a death trap but destroying four of them in quick succession with a PT-76 or vanilla BMP is very fun.

[Koshkinets]

It's fun to have another counterpart for older pact tanks to play with. Against the AI it's pretty easy to win with if you use your speed to make extremely wide flanks, but very hard to defend a static position with. You can't hope for anything but bounces to save you. Nice addition, different playstyle to the other tanks.

[Captain_Spolding]

Originally posted by Koshkinets:

It's fun to have another counterpart for older pact tanks to play with. Against the AI it's pretty easy to win with if you use your speed to make extremely wide flanks, but very hard to defend a static position with. You can't hope for anything but bounces to save you. Nice addition, different playstyle to the other tanks.

Unfortunately, the leopard doesn't really suit my playing style. I prefer vehicles with thicker front armour. I'm really looking forward to the Leopard2, it should actually close the gap with the weak armour and bring more firepower, even if we'll probably only get the 2A3 version.