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1156978923 Jan 23, 2024 @ 4:46pm
About the T-80B tank
I looked up the information and found that T-80B has a total of four body armor configurations, one is the T-80B tank in 1978 (60mm steel +50mm glass fiber +50mm glass fiber +45mm steel), and the T-80B tank in 1982 was welded with 30mm steel on the base armor of the 1978 tank. The T-80B of the 1984 model was equipped with contact-1 explosive reactive armor based on the 1982 model, and the T-80B of the 1985 model was equipped with a new body armor configuration (50mm steel +35mm glass fiber +50mm steel +35mm glass fiber +50mm steel) and contact-1 on the tank surface。Which T-80B tank will be given in the game? I find it's 1985 now.
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BobobVanBlob Jan 23, 2024 @ 11:19pm 
From what I've seen about ERA not being in the game, high likelihood that it's going to be one of the early ones. There is a difference between adopted in 1985 and widely used at a certain location (East Germany) at a certain time (mid 1985).
Kropotkin ☭ Jan 24, 2024 @ 6:17am 
Originally posted by BobobVanBlob:
From what I've seen about ERA not being in the game, high likelihood that it's going to be one of the early ones. There is a difference between adopted in 1985 and widely used at a certain location (East Germany) at a certain time (mid 1985).

Pg.4 "Both of these tanks [T-64B T-80B] have been sighted with reactive armor in increasing numbers To date reactive armor has been mounted only on missile-firing tanks, the T-80 and T-64B"
Pg. 12 "During this exercise, T-80s with reactive armor mounted were seen for the first time by an FMLM tour."
Pg. 15 "In January, T-80 attributed to the 79 GTD/8 GTA were seen for the first time with bracket studs for mounting reactive armor, similar to those seen on T-64B."
Pg. 18 "In late September and early October T-80 equipped elements of II GTD/I GTA partificpated in an FTX [...] Missions covered various stages of this move, which yielded the first sighting of T-80 with mounted reactive armor [...] This alone was unusual, as Soviet units with reactive armor equipped T-64B had previously taken great paints to remove the 'boxes' prior to out of garrison movement."
Pg. 22 "At the close of 1985, T-80s have been deployed with all seven divisions in GSGG's southern two armies. Altogether 17 of 28 maneuver regiments in these divisions have re-equipped with this new, turbine-driven tank. T-80 in five of those regiments mount reactive armor."

Source:
https://www.coldwarspies.com/resources/uh1985cpr.pdf

Just as an addendum; date of being spotted != date of first issue

Considering a soviet Tank Regiment would contain 90 tanks that would be a total of 450 T-80BV by the end of 1985. Even if you cut that number in half it's still a sizeable force.
For that matter according to this doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xJmNdHjCEnn7VbciOZPN755rhNkTbPQnLUr98tUCyOk
If 450 T-80BV aren't a sizeable enough force to be included then neither should T-64B (491) nor NVA T-72s (292 (!)) be included.
Last edited by Kropotkin ☭; Jan 24, 2024 @ 7:13am
dfebruary Jan 24, 2024 @ 7:16am 
Originally posted by 1156978923:
I looked up the information and found that T-80B has a total of four body armor configurations, one is the T-80B tank in 1978 (60mm steel +50mm glass fiber +50mm glass fiber +45mm steel), and the T-80B tank in 1982 was welded with 30mm steel on the base armor of the 1978 tank. The T-80B of the 1984 model was equipped with contact-1 explosive reactive armor based on the 1982 model, and the T-80B of the 1985 model was equipped with a new body armor configuration (50mm steel +35mm glass fiber +50mm steel +35mm glass fiber +50mm steel) and contact-1 on the tank surface。Which T-80B tank will be given in the game? I find it's 1985 now.
As far as i know the T-80B received ERA in 1985 not 1984
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