m1 abrams and basic T72A

[Georgi]

i love on how the developers glorify the US military in this game :D
the T72A is made to conter the m60 not the abrams. the T72B literlly opens the abrams in two, not to mention the much much more superior t80u. i am curios to see how far this glorification will continue ...?? i am writing this, becasue the last mission in april fools, it seems to do just that.

[Georgi]

*like the rest of entire game *

[angry gorilla man 3]

how many T-72Bs did the NVA have in 1985?

[HAPY HAPY HAPY]

Originally posted by Georgi:

i love on how the developers glorify the US military in this game :D
the T72A is made to conter the m60 not the abrams. the T72B literlly opens the abrams in two, not to mention the much much more superior t80u. i am curios to see how far this glorification will continue ...?? i am writing this, becasue the last mission in april fools, it seems to do just that.

T-72 is basically equal to M1IP already, and if you know how to use it well, it's firepower is equal to M1IP.

[Kropotkin ☭]

Originally posted by HAPY HAPY HAPY:

Originally posted by Georgi:

i love on how the developers glorify the US military in this game :D
the T72A is made to conter the m60 not the abrams. the T72B literlly opens the abrams in two, not to mention the much much more superior t80u. i am curios to see how far this glorification will continue ...?? i am writing this, becasue the last mission in april fools, it seems to do just that.

T-72 is basically equal to M1IP already, and if you know how to use it well, it's firepower is equal to M1IP.

It literally isn't. M833 will penetrate the M1IP frontally while 3BM15 can only penetrate the side of both the M1 and M1IP. Not to mention the VAST difference in armor. The T-72M can be penetrated from all angles by all ammunition fired by all NATO tanks in the game not to mention TOW and I-TOW.

Sure, the T-72 is more capable than most players give it credit for but it is FAR from "basically equal", in all ways (firepower, protection and mobility) it is drastically inferior to the M1.

EDIT: as for "if you know how to use it well", yes if you cheese the AI and sneak up on an unaware M1IP you can somewhat reliably kill it. But for any missions that aren't the pre-generated raid and spoil missions (as well as some older ones) is is borderline unplayable.

[HAPY HAPY HAPY]

Originally posted by Kropotkin ☭:

Originally posted by HAPY HAPY HAPY:

T-72 is basically equal to M1IP already, and if you know how to use it well, it's firepower is equal to M1IP.

It literally isn't. M833 will penetrate the M1IP frontally while 3BM15 can only penetrate the side of both the M1 and M1IP. Not to mention the VAST difference in armor. The T-72M can be penetrated from all angles by all ammunition fired by all NATO tanks in the game not to mention TOW and I-TOW.

Sure, the T-72 is more capable than most players give it credit for but it is FAR from "basically equal", in all ways (firepower, protection and mobility) it is drastically inferior to the M1.

EDIT: as for "if you know how to use it well", yes if you cheese the AI and sneak up on an unaware M1IP you can somewhat reliably kill it. But for any missions that aren't the pre-generated raid and spoil missions (as well as some older ones) is is borderline unplayable.

I agree that M1IP has way better armor than T-72, but regarding the firepower, I'd argue they are pretty much equal. FCS and thermals are obviously superior on the M1.

[ActionScripter]

Please direct all complaints about game balance to the USSR circa 1985, as they are the ones who sent East Germany a fleet of outdated T-72s and T-55s.

Perhaps when Soviet forces are added, as mentioned prominently on the roadmap, you'll find the situation more palatable.

https://gunnerheatpc.com/news/articles/ghpc-early-access-roadmap

[Barleyman]

Those sneaky Soviets didn't equip even their own troops with T-72B by 1985..

[[22g]Ben]

PFFFFFT

[Delta Dagger]

Sucks to suck.

Did the devs ever fix the M1 armor?

[2089370646]

Bro,i'd like to know what is T64A(mod.1981) in the proving ground....
I think there's no T64 and T80 in the NVA,also there's not a 1981's T64A,mainly T64B is in 1976.

[2089370646]

Originally posted by Barleyman:

Those sneaky Soviets didn't equip even their own troops with T-72B by 1985..

The 39th Motorized Infantry Division of the Red Banner of the Konstantin received the Order of Lenin, the Order of Suvorov, the Order of Bogdan Khmelnytsky and the Order of the Red Banner twice
In 1985, the division began to be equipped with the T-80B.
On December 1, 1985, the division was equipped with 177 T-62s and 94 T-80Bs
The division was the main Soviet armored force in the Fulda Valley and was truly the front line of the U.S.-Soviet confrontation. However, probably for reasons of secrecy, the division's armament remained at the bottom of the German-based cluster.

[2089370646]

Originally posted by Barleyman:

Those sneaky Soviets didn't equip even their own troops with T-72B by 1985..

Bro,they don't have T72B, but they have T80B.......

[2089370646]

Originally posted by Georgi:

i love on how the developers glorify the US military in this game :D
the T72A is made to conter the m60 not the abrams. the T72B literlly opens the abrams in two, not to mention the much much more superior t80u. i am curios to see how far this glorification will continue ...?? i am writing this, becasue the last mission in april fools, it seems to do just that.

Maybe you should consider the poor economic level of East Germany 。。。。
: D

[harry]

Originally posted by 2089370646:

Originally posted by Josh:

Please direct all complaints about game balance to the USSR circa 1985, as they are the ones who sent East Germany a fleet of outdated T-72s and T-55s.

Perhaps when Soviet forces are added, as mentioned prominently on the roadmap, you'll find the situation more palatable.

https://gunnerheatpc.com/news/articles/ghpc-early-access-roadmap

But they can shoot 3BM42.....

please provide a source that the NVA used 3BM42 and we will add it immediately.

[Andy Mil]

You can fight against M1. If you are AI that is Hehehehehehe
I have fight M72 head on and even they not pen front armor BUT THEY PEN ROOF armor. Thx to that ammo rack door/metal sheet protection and also my crew sign out of relief that shot didnt kill them. The shot pen through roof turret and ammo room but the fragment did not soo I was saved. Another shot u gotto careful is that they will try to shoot ur driver view and gunner optic. It super aimbot
Note: Enemy first shot on me was aimbot like those. I was 1 vs 3 Tank and each one get to shoot once. Range bout more than 500m