Very steep learning curve or am I missing the obvious

[steveo110]

Just picked this game up to try and was wondering am I missing something as having skim read the guides and familiarised myself with the controls I've jumped into the first standalone mission listed (Silver Dart) and must have tried and failed to complete the mission more than a dozen times.

Is the game just that difficult to get the hang of?
Am I starting with the wrong mission? I couldn't see any tutorial, or missions listed as "easy"?

cheers
Steveo

[steveo110]

Another 3 failed attempts at the mission.

Think I'll give this game a miss for now.

[N.1.c.0]

Persevere - or like Robert the Bruce - try, try and try.

[AndyBoyDinomon]

It’s not easy and controls take some getting use to. The most important things is to learn your vehicles firing system and range finding system. Each Vehicle is a little different. spend some time in the firing range and use thermals to help locate targets. Also listen to the voice commands. When they say target turn left or right - hold the space bar for ‘commander aim’ and that will help you locate targets quicker. Go through the missions and only play M1 Abrams missions as the m60 is a sitting duck armor wise.

The ‘long road’ mission is a good solo M1 mission to work on basics as there are no other friendly to rush you. You can go at your own pace.

[XGUNNARX]

I don't think its that complicated. But if you charge right into battle your going to die. There is a tank range you can go to and drive around and figure out the controls and each tanks fire control system without worrying about getting destroyed.

[BobobVanBlob]

Originally posted by steveo110:

Just picked this game up to try and was wondering am I missing something as having skim read the guides and familiarised myself with the controls I've jumped into the first standalone mission listed (Silver Dart) and must have tried and failed to complete the mission more than a dozen times.

Is the game just that difficult to get the hang of?
Am I starting with the wrong mission? I couldn't see any tutorial, or missions listed as "easy"?

cheers
Steveo

Hey, I'd recommend getting to know your tanks in Grafenwoehr first. Then play with NATO tanks, here is a bunch of rather easy missions to get started, first on point Alpha:

- Long Range (easiest mission in the game, very good to learn M60A3 gunnery)
- Blind Buffalo (Blue side)
- Fog of War
- Alternate Route (Blue)
- Night Bane (Blue)

Then on Fulda Outskirts:

- Superior Firepower (one of the few really easy Red missions)
- Target Tango (quite easy once used to the T-72)

North Fields:

- Morning Misery
- Advance Guard
- Casual Cleanup
- Replen Reaper (rather fair mission and good if you use illum flares right)

Fulda Gap legacy:

- MBT duel (blue side)
- M60A3 solo hunt (hard mission but really good at teaching positioning and scanning)


You can also start a NATO campaign and refresh the mission list by clicking on load (after having saved) and only do Recon in Force and Raid missions (Raid missions being the easiest of the two), they are quite easy and will teach you to scan for contacts often.

Hope this helps and remember Grafenwoehr tank range is your best friend otherwise.

[Pindie]

That mission is hard.
You need to fire as fast as you can and you should not miss. You need to use the hill for cover and only advance until you can fire over it.
This is reflective of IRL plans for NATO defence where NATO expected their tank force to be vastly outnumbered.

[Ghostryderflyby]

Originally posted by steveo110:

Just picked this game up to try and was wondering am I missing something as having skim read the guides and familiarised myself with the controls I've jumped into the first standalone mission listed (Silver Dart) and must have tried and failed to complete the mission more than a dozen times.

Is the game just that difficult to get the hang of?
Am I starting with the wrong mission? I couldn't see any tutorial, or missions listed as "easy"?

cheers
Steveo

Count me in on this. I didn't see any kind of tutorial so I went into the NATO missions. Picked the first one in the list thinking it would start out slow as a tutorial, whatever it was, and got the crap shot out of me by stuff I couldn't see. Never saw a thing to shoot at optically, and couldn't figure out how to activate any kind of thermal sights (M60), and straight up got deleted. I know it's early access and still in development, but I seriously hope that they add a tutorial to the final product.

[ActionScripter]

Some mission re-ordering is in the works that should help alleviate this. We made the mistake of arranging the list based on polls of our players' favorite missions, which naturally selected for exciting and challenging scenarios rather than good introductory ones.

[Dirtbag]

You need to move pretty slow, and stop and scan a lot. The mouse wheel zooms even from the commanders perch.

Do not try to move forward to the enemy from the gunners seat - you will die every time and not even see what killed you.

[r4y30n]

Originally posted by Dirtbag:

Do not try to move forward to the enemy from the gunners seat - you will die every time and not even see what killed you.

Eh, wide angle thermal does okay when moving. I tend to spend maybe ⅔ of my time there when on the move. Of course, it’s more useful with the Abrams’ better stabilizers.

[moyer4487]

i think if u press F1 during game play a list of the controls pops up.

also that mission is very hard.

[TommyGunMkr]

I did the same thing. I did the firing range, watched some YouTube tutorials and then jumped into Silver Dart. I got wiped out over and over. I finally figured out a defilade position where I can catch the enemy armor on the flanks as they rush the hill. I can win about 80% of the time now.

[BFC_ParaBellum]

Loaded up the game, set up my controls, loaded the first mission. "Silver Dart". Ok. This is gonny be f.... WTF??! 0_0

Tried again. And again. And... realized that the 1st mission in the list maybe is not the easiest one. Searched this forum a bit a found a few less challenging, beginner friendly missions to learn the basics. All's well now. :)

[Till]

I need a simple custom mission generator.

Like "1 M1 vs 1 T55" or "1 TOW vs 2 BMP".

Choose a certain map, choose random starting positions, have some easy fun. For me the game is not fun right now. (I have little time and zero motivation to practice scripted missions over and over again until I'm able to succeed ...)

[muzfakil]

Definitely has somewhat of a learning curve. the controls are kinda weird on mouse and keyboard. also takes a bit to understand the games mechanics for where/when enemies will be near by. when i first played im pretty sure the first like 5 times i tried playing i died. i took a break and sat down and played for most of a day after a week or two of not touching it.

eventually it clicks tho. your map is your friend at the mission start but then experience tells you when to be ready for combat and what direction to be looking.