Earning Money in the Capital

[Sledgehammertip]

I was wondering what exactly was the intended method for making enough money to buy all the buildings after you make it to the capital. At this point my shop (With monopoly from all but the 2 last items) is making ~300 000 each time before I resupply. It's a neat amount, but at this point I'm just kinda sitting around waiting, and considering that many of the buildings cost millions it would be a very long wait indeed.

As far as I can tell there are 3 ways to make real money once you reach the Capital.
1. Passive Income and the Time Pix.
2. Trading Stocks
3. Buying and Selling Oil at the pier.

The Time Pix eats a lot of levels before even giving 1mil with ~90% of the buildings bought, and I haven't had much luck with the stocks, meaning I mostly trade oil. Don't get me wrong it's lucrative, if you catch either the owl or the oil seller and the resistance member at the same time you make 3+ millions. This is great, except for the fact that they only resupply with time.

And now that I only have the most expensive building left to buy, this has lead to the gameplay loop of me alt tabbing while Biz sits in the bar, exiting every now and then to buy and sell then returning to the bar. And as this has essentially turned into an idle game, I was hoping I was missing some method for making the big money as I had really enjoyed the game so far.

[Knightlox]

I have no idea how the Flow Pix works, I wish it was explained better because I'm like level 94 right now..
I also only have the most expensive building to buy ;the price is ridiculous]..
I buy like 999 of every item and just sit at the shop occassionally putting money in the vault/going to pay my maintenance if the upkeep gets too high/check stocks..

so idk

[Sledgehammertip]

Originally posted by Knightlox:

I have no idea how the Flow Pix works, I wish it was explained better because I'm like level 94 right now..

As far as I can tell, each time you interact with the Flow Pix, in exchange for XP all of your passive timers check. So if you had 100 passive income you would make 100 gold each time you sold your XP.

[Knightlox]

Originally posted by Sledgehammertip:

Originally posted by Knightlox:

I have no idea how the Flow Pix works, I wish it was explained better because I'm like level 94 right now..

As far as I can tell, each time you interact with the Flow Pix, in exchange for XP all of your passive timers check. So if you had 100 passive income you would make 100 gold each time you sold your XP.

Hmm.. I'll give it a shot, being my passive income is nearly 100k. We'll see what happens!

[Aquillion]

This is great, except for the fact that they only resupply with time.

Hmm, if only there was someone who could make time flow faster...

(Also, this might be obvious, but you can of course buy back your levels from the Owl Lich. Lower levels are very cheap to repurchase.)

[andonbusiness]

When I used the Flow Pix/Owl Lich loop I ended up down 2 mil. It's not a loop I'd recommend.
This is just how I play the mid to end game, but after selling levels to the flow pix I portal back to Enterpriston and let the shop run itself. It's not the most engaging game play so I usually make dinner or take a shower. This has the effect of replenishing levels while making sales.
While I enjoy the game I do wish there was a third shop biz could open. Perhaps something with fewer items but higher priced. Unfortunately as the game stands there is little reason to purchase late game accessories or other game content. It's usually easier just to jump straight to the end game.

[Zaxcrie]

From my personal experience, selling to the dragon tinto gives me more money than selling at the shop.

I am still saving up for the last purchase but think that cycling the stocks, oil and tinto with the flow pix might be the easiest.

On an unrelated note did your taxes increase with stock sales, I have over 10mil in taxes and it's going up faster than my shop sells, so now im just not opening my shop.

[Sledgehammertip]

Originally posted by Aquillion:

This is great, except for the fact that they only resupply with time.

Hmm, if only there was someone who could make time flow faster...

Eyy, that's an interaction I didn't think off. Neat as this Flow Pix interaction is though, it
still doesn't stop the end game grind (especially for the final building) from being an absolute slog.

[ManaBrent]

I'm working on some more super late game upgrades. But those extremely expensive things like the last property are there as goals for people who want to keep playing, they are very optional. I see them more like post game content.

[Sledgehammertip]

Originally posted by Hwantaw:

I'm working on some more super late game upgrades. But those extremely expensive things like the last property are there as goals for people who want to keep playing, they are very optional. I see them more like post game content.

Yeah I realised that when I walked to the final building happy with my 100Million gold, only to realise that I needed a 0 more at the end. So honestly I get that one.

I do feel the game stumbles when you enter the capital though. Until this point the center of the game has been your shop, upgrading the goods, finding new customers and so on, and to suddenly have it fall to the wayside in the face of selling oil at a pier and trading stocks feels rather off. I was expecting a new shop, more goods and not new mechanics at the eleventh hour.

[ManaBrent]

A lot of new stuff for your shop unlocks at that stage too, it continues to be very good if you keep building it up.

[Aquillion]

Originally posted by andonbusiness:

When I used the Flow Pix/Owl Lich loop I ended up down 2 mil. It's not a loop I'd recommend.

It made me a ton of money, but it's important to:

1. Do the math on how much you can buy back while remaining in the black. You're earning ([income per tick] / 50000) gold per XP; the owl will helpfully tell you how much each XP costs from him. Though for some reason he quotes the cost of 1/4th of a point of XP.

2. Make money buying and selling commodities. As mentioned above, it affects that.

Turning ale into passive income also builds up, if slowly.

I waited until I had an income of, I think, nearly 50k? Which made the math easier. Until then, you can do this:

Originally posted by Sledgehammertip:

I do feel the game stumbles when you enter the capital though. Until this point the center of the game has been your shop, upgrading the goods, finding new customers and so on, and to suddenly have it fall to the wayside in the face of selling oil at a pier and trading stocks feels rather off. I was expecting a new shop, more goods and not new mechanics at the eleventh hour.

Do note that you can and should continue to use your shop, at least until the very very late game (the point where it's nearly the "postgame.") After all, your passive income stacks with shop income.

In particular, the pineapple of time also speeds up passive income and commodity buildup. Just stand by the pineapple, use bribes to avoid taxes (by now things should be automated to the point where you don't need to leave that spot), and accumulate money.

[Arcanestomper]

You don't even need to pay taxes if you're standing by the pineapple. The representative can't actually get past you.

For me personally I did a lot of oil trading at this point in the game. Buy oil whenever you see the owl and oil mayor. The more you buy the more they stock. By the time I had purchased all the buildings they were stocking over a hundred each and I could make 10+ million per eventual oil trade.

I spent the time waiting for them to cycle tending to the industrial farm, selling to tinto, and tracking down secrets that I had missed. It did feel a lot more grindy than the early parts of the game though.

[Knightlox]

Originally posted by Zaxcrie:

From my personal experience, selling to the dragon tinto gives me more money than selling at the shop.

I am still saving up for the last purchase but think that cycling the stocks, oil and tinto with the flow pix might be the easiest.

On an unrelated note did your taxes increase with stock sales, I have over 10mil in taxes and it's going up faster than my shop sells, so now im just not opening my shop.

I didnt notice anything about it going up because of stock sales but it went up to almost 1 mil from selling to Tinto..

[Sledgehammertip]

Originally posted by Hwantaw:

A lot of new stuff for your shop unlocks at that stage too, it continues to be very good if you keep building it up.

What are some ways in which you can keep building it up? I really felt it just couldn't keep up. As by the point I had bought all but the last apartment and had 100 million on me, my store had made a total profit of 6.8 million. Which isn't bad, but nothing compared to what I had made selling oil.

[ManaBrent]

By seeking out all the upgrades, unlockables, equipment, etc. I'm not going to list them specifically because I want players to find those things on their own. It's also the only system that gives XP.

It's not going to make money faster than the late game systems, but you can optimise it to support those.