No upgrade discount for original game owners?

[Bogart]

What up with that?

[Vercci ]

There was on launch.

[Teapot]

there was a discount for owners of the past game at launch but it was only for like a week

[Ƥrǐŋcєss Ƒluեեєrsɦy]

Originally posted by Tadas:

there was a discount for owners of the past game at launch but it was only for like a week

Well, I have complete the original Game ages ago, so I'm not sure if or why I should get this Game here.
It's like you buy the Game again just to get some extra Elements, who could even fit into an Pay DLC.
The Graphic Update most Games give for free (like the Engine Upgrade of Vanishing of Evan Carter).
Maybe if its offeret in a Event as Discount for 3-5 Euro (usual the Price for a Pay DLC), but not for 22 Euro when you get the old Game for 12.

[Vercci ]

Originally posted by Princess Fluttershy:

Maybe if its offeret in a Event as Discount for 3-5 Euro (usual the Price for a Pay DLC), but not for 22 Euro when you get the old Game for 12.

The content of the game has at least doubled why not charge twice as much for it.

They didn't just make new maps like most dlc is, they recreated the entire game from scratch in a new engine, which let them put it onto consoles.

The fact that it mostly looks, plays and sounds like the original steam release of stanley parable is a testament to how much work they put into it. There's a stream where the original creator talked about how much work it was color correcting stuff to have the original colors of the game despite not having the same shaders, and the audio engineering that took place to have the new dialogue not sound out of place compared to the original lines recorded almost 10 years ago.

[Bogart]

Originally posted by Vercci :

Originally posted by Princess Fluttershy:

Maybe if its offeret in a Event as Discount for 3-5 Euro (usual the Price for a Pay DLC), but not for 22 Euro when you get the old Game for 12.

The content of the game has at least doubled why not charge twice as much for it.

They didn't just make new maps like most dlc is, they recreated the entire game from scratch in a new engine, which let them put it onto consoles.

The fact that it mostly looks, plays and sounds like the original steam release of stanley parable is a testament to how much work they put into it. There's a stream where the original creator talked about how much work it was color correcting stuff to have the original colors of the game despite not having the same shaders, and the audio engineering that took place to have the new dialogue not sound out of place compared to the original lines recorded almost 10 years ago.

That's all great but at the end of the day it's like being charged double (much more in this case) for being a loyal customer and early adopter. Devs should care more for customers who came first. The same goes for other Devs whose products are listed without bundle discounts on Steam for items people already own, thereby demanding full price for less content relative to newcomers.

[Ƥrǐŋcєss Ƒluեեєrsɦy]

Originally posted by Vercci :

Originally posted by Princess Fluttershy:

Maybe if its offeret in a Event as Discount for 3-5 Euro (usual the Price for a Pay DLC), but not for 22 Euro when you get the old Game for 12.

The content of the game has at least doubled why not charge twice as much for it.

They didn't just make new maps like most dlc is, they recreated the entire game from scratch in a new engine, which let them put it onto consoles.

The fact that it mostly looks, plays and sounds like the original steam release of stanley parable is a testament to how much work they put into it. There's a stream where the original creator talked about how much work it was color correcting stuff to have the original colors of the game despite not having the same shaders, and the audio engineering that took place to have the new dialogue not sound out of place compared to the original lines recorded almost 10 years ago.

Ah, well then thats something else.
Can you link the Stream so I can have a Look?

Originally posted by Bogart Porter Bridges:

Originally posted by Vercci :

The content of the game has at least doubled why not charge twice as much for it.

They didn't just make new maps like most dlc is, they recreated the entire game from scratch in a new engine, which let them put it onto consoles.

The fact that it mostly looks, plays and sounds like the original steam release of stanley parable is a testament to how much work they put into it. There's a stream where the original creator talked about how much work it was color correcting stuff to have the original colors of the game despite not having the same shaders, and the audio engineering that took place to have the new dialogue not sound out of place compared to the original lines recorded almost 10 years ago.

That's all great but at the end of the day it's like being charged double (much more in this case) for being a loyal customer and early adopter. Devs should care more for customers who came first. The same goes for other Devs whose products are listed without bundle discounts on Steam for items people already own, thereby demanding full price for less content relative to newcomers.

It is, at last for the old Content, but there are many Remakes who have the same or Extended Content and are sold as Remake.
Like Final Fantasy 7 or System Shock.
If the one who have post before can give us the Stream, we will see how much work they had and if someone not want to pay double, then just waiting for a 50% off, then its just the new content who are payed.

[pablonesmrtelny]

Originally posted by Princess Fluttershy:

Originally posted by Tadas:

there was a discount for owners of the past game at launch but it was only for like a week

Well, I have complete the original Game ages ago, so I'm not sure if or why I should get this Game here.
It's like you buy the Game again just to get some extra Elements, who could even fit into an Pay DLC.
The Graphic Update most Games give for free (like the Engine Upgrade of Vanishing of Evan Carter).
Maybe if its offeret in a Event as Discount for 3-5 Euro (usual the Price for a Pay DLC), but not for 22 Euro when you get the old Game for 12.

I have heard that there isn't much actual new content. That its just some padding repeated over and over. So I am also hesitant with purchase since I have played the original.

[Vercci ]

Originally posted by Princess Fluttershy:

Ah, well then thats something else.
Can you link the Stream so I can have a Look?

Here's the slightly edited stream. It's the one that got popular and the one I watched. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REnFIJhVA-g

It goes into some of the new content, it doesn't show all of it, and it doesn't show the epilogue / ending of the game. Honestly, if what you've already seen of ultra deluxe didn't make you want to play it, watching a playthrough is good enough.

p.s The full vod is on youtube if needed. Considering what's left in that vid I can't imagine it's anything necessary but I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ out of an extra hour of video so what's my opinion worth.

[Vercci ]

Originally posted by pablonesmrtelny:

I have heard that there isn't much actual new content. That its just some padding repeated over and over. So I am also hesitant with purchase since I have played the original.

You'd have to define what counts as content. If you think each of the original endings count as a piece of content, there is more than twice the amount of content in Ultra Deluxe.

[pablonesmrtelny]

Originally posted by Vercci :

Originally posted by pablonesmrtelny:

I have heard that there isn't much actual new content. That its just some padding repeated over and over. So I am also hesitant with purchase since I have played the original.

You'd have to define what counts as content. If you think each of the original endings count as a piece of content, there is more than twice the amount of content in Ultra Deluxe.

Yep. This is the exact type of reponse that makes me think this is basically just the base original game with a little bit of mostly worthless repetitive padding.

I mean if I play a walking simulator and even within this type of game I gotta think reeeeealy hard to consider its content a content... I have a feeling I would lean toward that NOT being a worthy content.

[Vercci ]

It has an extra story layered over it that kind of gives it an actual ending, and a bunch of great moments. But some people like pointing at "the number of endings" which has just objectively more than doubled.

I wanted more stanley parable and I got it, and some of those moments were magical. But I didn't bother to count the number of original endings.

[Ƥrǐŋcєss Ƒluեեєrsɦy]

Originally posted by Vercci :

Originally posted by pablonesmrtelny:

I have heard that there isn't much actual new content. That its just some padding repeated over and over. So I am also hesitant with purchase since I have played the original.

You'd have to define what counts as content. If you think each of the original endings count as a piece of content, there is more than twice the amount of content in Ultra Deluxe.

The Content of the Game is mostly the Narator, mean if theres many new Lines, Gags and other Stuff, then this is the new Content, but count as DLC, because it just extent the old Content.
If the Game has just got more Endings, then its a Extention or Addon, who are calculated after the new Content.
A new Engine is just an Upgrade, possible on the old Game, like it was with Ehan Carter who was updated from Unreal Engine 3 to 4 and are usual not Charged for People who already own the Game.
The Original Game is 10y old so the new one has to have an good reason to charge players a second time.
The one week of discount many maybe havn't see but if I remember right, it was just an discount of 20% or so or I had get it.
This is not TSP 2, its the old Game as a extrended Remake.

Watching the stream will need some Time, its 3,5h.

[CatastrophicallyObesePanda]

Originally posted by Princess Fluttershy:

Originally posted by Vercci :

You'd have to define what counts as content. If you think each of the original endings count as a piece of content, there is more than twice the amount of content in Ultra Deluxe.

The Content of the Game is mostly the Narator, mean if theres many new Lines, Gags and other Stuff, then this is the new Content, but count as DLC, because it just extent the old Content.
If the Game has just got more Endings, then its a Extention or Addon, who are calculated after the new Content.
A new Engine is just an Upgrade, possible on the old Game, like it was with Ehan Carter who was updated from Unreal Engine 3 to 4 and are usual not Charged for People who already own the Game.
The Original Game is 10y old so the new one has to have an good reason to charge players a second time.
The one week of discount many maybe havn't see but if I remember right, it was just an discount of 20% or so or I had get it.
This is not TSP 2, its the old Game as a extrended Remake.

Watching the stream will need some Time, its 3,5h.

This sounds like you have a spreadsheet to determine "remake" or "Add On" lol

A new engine is not just an upgrade. It takes a lot of work to rewrite the entire game in a different language and make it all work exactly how it originally did.
If other devs do this work for free, then good on them! But devs should be paid for their work.
Steam has more than 4x the number of users than when TSP originally launched. Plenty of new players on the market that have never had the chance to buy TSP, and great for Crows, Crows, Crows to bring this more definitive edition to the market. Also now it's available on consoles from their upgrade. As you say, this game is over 10 years old, Sounds entitled to demand a bigger discount on a game that only costs $25 and that they originally enjoyed.

[Bogart]

Originally posted by CatastrophicallyObesePanda:

Originally posted by Princess Fluttershy:

The Content of the Game is mostly the Narator, mean if theres many new Lines, Gags and other Stuff, then this is the new Content, but count as DLC, because it just extent the old Content.
If the Game has just got more Endings, then its a Extention or Addon, who are calculated after the new Content.
A new Engine is just an Upgrade, possible on the old Game, like it was with Ehan Carter who was updated from Unreal Engine 3 to 4 and are usual not Charged for People who already own the Game.
The Original Game is 10y old so the new one has to have an good reason to charge players a second time.
The one week of discount many maybe havn't see but if I remember right, it was just an discount of 20% or so or I had get it.
This is not TSP 2, its the old Game as a extrended Remake.

Watching the stream will need some Time, its 3,5h.

This sounds like you have a spreadsheet to determine "remake" or "Add On" lol

A new engine is not just an upgrade. It takes a lot of work to rewrite the entire game in a different language and make it all work exactly how it originally did.
If other devs do this work for free, then good on them! But devs should be paid for their work.
Steam has more than 4x the number of users than when TSP originally launched. Plenty of new players on the market that have never had the chance to buy TSP, and great for Crows, Crows, Crows to bring this more definitive edition to the market. Also now it's available on consoles from their upgrade. As you say, this game is over 10 years old, Sounds entitled to demand a bigger discount on a game that only costs $25 and that they originally enjoyed.

Only $25? lol, there are games with 100x the content that can be bought for that much. They can charge whatever they want sure and you can call it entitled but it's also a good thing for devs to offer loyal customers loyalty discounts.

[pablonesmrtelny]

Originally posted by Vercci :

It has an extra story layered over it that kind of gives it an actual ending, and a bunch of great moments. But some people like pointing at "the number of endings" which has just objectively more than doubled.

I wanted more stanley parable and I got it, and some of those moments were magical. But I didn't bother to count the number of original endings.

ok this sounds better...

I guess it wont be that much for a person who already played the entire base game but it does sound like the game has been meaningfully improved upon.

Ill take it when I see a discount.