Portal + Minecraft ending missing?

[impostor]

Did they remove it?

[Arakus]

Same ending exists but with 2 different games that play roughly the same role (open world game the narrator hates and linear game the narrator likes) (presumably for rights reasons, guess Microsoft and Valve didn't feel like it)

[Monokuma]

And the portal segment is likely missing due to the fact that they're no longer on the source engine and the joke doesn't really work as well because of it.

[Sunny]

Same goes to the Half-Life 2 mod of The Stanley Parable and the serious room that we can go there by type sv_cheats 1 on the console command because the Ultra Deluxe use the Unity Engine that the console command is unsupported and we don't know why the Minecraft and Portal segment is cut?

[扣1瓷堕头像绿头男]

I guess Microsoft wont be happy about Minecraft showing up in this game again now, since Mojang was bought by them in 2014

[JanschD]

Originally posted by Monokuma:

And the portal segment is likely missing due to the fact that they're no longer on the source engine and the joke doesn't really work as well because of it.

Just like Minecraft was't a source game to begin with, yet they did the effort porting a Minecraft world to the source engine. I never considered the used engine part of the joke, but simply a convenience for the programmers.

Originally posted by Sunny:

Same goes to the Half-Life 2 mod of The Stanley Parable and the serious room that we can go there by type sv_cheats 1 on the console command because the Ultra Deluxe use the Unity Engine that the console command is unsupported

They implemented bark mode though, just in a different way.
They could have implemented a detection for achievement cheaters and trigger serious room, ie. when system date is set to before the last time the game was run.

[E3kHatena]

I imagine the Minecraft segment was replaced because the developer Wreden got in touch with to approve of that segment no longer works for Mojang and the game is a whole order of magnitude more popular in 2022 than it was in 2013 (even if it was also incredibly popular then, too), so getting in touch again for that might have proved difficult. There could also be the possibility that as most of Minecraft's textures have changed over the past 9 years, the prospect of needing to completely overhaul that area led to them swapping it out for Firewatch as both segments ultimately fulfill the same goal of making the player feel lost in an expansive area.

As for the Portal scene being changed out for Rocket League, that one I don't have a definite answer. My best guess is that it didn't make sense to have the second one be an old gag when the first one was new?

[Monokuma]

Originally posted by JanschD:

Originally posted by Monokuma:

And the portal segment is likely missing due to the fact that they're no longer on the source engine and the joke doesn't really work as well because of it.

Just like Minecraft was't a source game to begin with, yet they did the effort porting a Minecraft world to the source engine. I never considered the used engine part of the joke, but simply a convenience for the programmers.

It's more of the basis that source games all have this same sort of feeling to them, for lack of a better word. That and the fact that the original SP, before the first one you could purchase, was a source mod.

[Ocelote.12]

Originally posted by WannaLickApplejackBoots:

I guess Microsoft wont be happy about Minecraft showing up in this game again now, since Mojang was bought by them in 2014

A creative borrowing is legally acceptable if it's made for humour/satire goals and the "borrowed" section is not too large.

[Tatra]

Originally posted by Aleosha12:

Originally posted by WannaLickApplejackBoots:

I guess Microsoft wont be happy about Minecraft showing up in this game again now, since Mojang was bought by them in 2014

A creative borrowing is legally acceptable if it's made for humour/satire goals and the "borrowed" section is not too large.

...So, listen, Aleosha, before you get to making any games yourself, especially ones involving other's IPs, I definitely suggest you do more than skim the Wikipedia article for "fair use". Suffice to say that, no, you really can't legally just slam the entire Rocket League arena (with full branding) into your game with absolutely no agreement from its devs just so long as you make a joke about it.

[MartensoftWorld]

Originally posted by Tatra:

Originally posted by Aleosha12:

A creative borrowing is legally acceptable if it's made for humour/satire goals and the "borrowed" section is not too large.

...So, listen, Aleosha, before you get to making any games yourself, especially ones involving other's IPs, I definitely suggest you do more than skim the Wikipedia article for "fair use". Suffice to say that, no, you really can't legally just slam the entire Rocket League arena (with full branding) into your game with absolutely no agreement from its devs just so long as you make a joke about it.

But the original references weren't that, which is what they were referring to. A singular walled off Minecraft parody that offers none of the gameplay of Minecraft, and a Portal parody where you are put in the most boring test chamber to move a block does not replace the experience of either game. In Deluxe, there's a lot more going on with its references that would have been harder to get away with, not withstanding they didn't have the technical knowledge.

[Jardex22]

Originally posted by Aleosha12:

Originally posted by WannaLickApplejackBoots:

I guess Microsoft wont be happy about Minecraft showing up in this game again now, since Mojang was bought by them in 2014

A creative borrowing is legally acceptable if it's made for humour/satire goals and the "borrowed" section is not too large.

Keep in mind that anyone can sue anyone for any reason. Fair use can only be argued in front of a judge once it reaches a courtroom. Until then, the IP owner could ask for an injunction to stop the sale of your game or for funds to be held until a decision can be reached. Microsoft can simply drag the legal battle out long enough until C.C.C racked up a crap ton on legal fees.

Also keep in mind that the commercial status of a project will affect if it can be considered fair use. Even if it's only a relatively small part, Microsoft would prey on the fact that C.C.C. is charging $25 for the game.

[Tatra]

Originally posted by Microsoft has terminated file:

Originally posted by Tatra:

...So, listen, Aleosha, before you get to making any games yourself, especially ones involving other's IPs, I definitely suggest you do more than skim the Wikipedia article for "fair use". Suffice to say that, no, you really can't legally just slam the entire Rocket League arena (with full branding) into your game with absolutely no agreement from its devs just so long as you make a joke about it.

But the original references weren't that, which is what they were referring to. A singular walled off Minecraft parody

Stop. Parody does not mean what you apparently think it means, which is why you, like Aleosha, should definitely seek actual legal advice from someone who knows what they're on about before you slam other IPs into a game you're making without talking to the owners first. Sorry, but a jokey comment or two is not that One Trick IP Lawyers Don't Want You To Know.

[Doctor_Hyde]

if someone makes a mod for deluxe that replaces the new game references with the minecraft and portal section again, id love that

[gooooood mewing vietnam!]

Never stop. don't let your dreams be dreams. don't let nerds on the internet tell you what's right or wrong. you make those references. reach your goals. never stop believing.

[aflippers]

not necessarily they replaced the two games with fire watch and rocket league