achievements already cheated

[[IHRB] (P)(R)oland]

27 April 202 - Game Released .
28 April 2022 - 1% of players have unlocked achievement for not playing a game for 10 years.

Seriously...

Maybe Devs can check those idiots in their statistics, and report them to steam for ban?

[DakotaThrice]

Totally missing the point of the entire game there aren't you.

[[IHRB] (P)(R)oland]

well, you can twist it however u like and pretend ur Stanley going against rules when cheating achievement's requirement - or maybe u simply cheat achievement to get 100% the easy way? Who knows....

Anyway, does Steam policy allow to use enternal tools to unlock achievement? U maybe should chack it out.

[E3kHatena]

They had no issue with people using the console to unlock the impossible achievement in the 2013 release, nor changing the system clock to obtain the two time-sensitive ones, so I imagine they won't pursue any actual punishment for this game's achievements.

Besides, they'll just short themselves the excitement of being able to come back to this game in 2032.

Originally posted by IHRB (P)(R)oland:

Anyway, does Steam policy allow to use enternal tools to unlock achievement? U maybe should chack it out.

Devs can issue bans for achievement unlockers, I believe that is at the developer's discretion, but in this case players are simply changing the system clock to unlock the achievement, which Valve nor Crows Crows Crows have any jurisdiction over.

[[IHRB] (P)(R)oland]

Originally posted by E3kHatena:

They had no issue with people using the console to unlock the impossible achievement in the 2013 release, nor changing the system clock to obtain the two time-sensitive ones, so I imagine they won't pursue any actual punishment for this game's achievements.

Besides, they'll just short themselves the excitement of being able to come back to this game in 2032.

Originally posted by IHRB (P)(R)oland:

Anyway, does Steam policy allow to use enternal tools to unlock achievement? U maybe should chack it out.

Devs can issue bans for achievement unlockers, I believe that is at the developer's discretion, but in this case players are simply changing the system clock to unlock the achievement, which Valve nor Crows Crows Crows have any jurisdiction over.

Yeah, ur probably right here. Noone will do anything, and pathetic players/fake achievement hunters will keep cheating hardest achievement without any penalty. It's sad from REAL achievement hunters' perspective.

[Caelum]

Lmao i sincerely hope this is bait

[CypherColt]

It counts the game testers forcing the achievements... every achievement in every game will have at least 0.1% guaranteed due to testing. (And of course the point of that achievement is to break the 4th wall)

[[IHRB] (P)(R)oland]

Originally posted by Aperture Laboratories:

Lmao i sincerely hope this is bait

You hope that someone voting against cheaters is a bait? hmmmm, sorry to dissapoint u, but it's not.

Currently gaming is rotten with cheating to the core. Casuals cheat in MP games everywhere, pros cheating in tournaments, people calling themselves" achievement hunters" cheat achievements that actually require effort or skill to make.
It's madness what kind of ♥♥♥♥ gaming became - gaming which is supposed to be a fun, relaxation for casuals, and normal sport rivalry for pros.

For you maybe it is a joke, but for me small things lead to big things, and not penalizing casuals for cheating is the direct reason why pros are not panalized for cheating too.

[[Asgard] Thor]

You know you don't even need a program to add the achievement? You can literally just change the date on the computer while it's closed.

[[IHRB] (P)(R)oland]

Originally posted by Asgard Thor:

You know you don't even need a program to add the achievement? You can literally just change the date on the computer while it's closed.

yes, I'm talking about changing system date, not using SAM

[Trindalas]

Originally posted by IHRB (P)(R)oland:

Originally posted by Aperture Laboratories:

Lmao i sincerely hope this is bait

You hope that someone voting against cheaters is a bait? hmmmm, sorry to dissapoint u, but it's not.

Currently gaming is rotten with cheating to the core. Casuals cheat in MP games everywhere, pros cheating in tournaments, people calling themselves" achievement hunters" cheat achievements that actually require effort or skill to make.
It's madness what kind of ♥♥♥♥ gaming became - gaming which is supposed to be a fun, relaxation for casuals, and normal sport rivalry for pros.

For you maybe it is a joke, but for me small things lead to big things, and not penalizing casuals for cheating is the direct reason why pros are not panalized for cheating too.

More specifically it requires an utter lack of any effort whatsoever. And I imagine people would rather not never play the game for 10 years, games are fun to replay occasionally and that’s a long time. Also, this is an entirely different situation from professional/multiplayer cheats. This is not influencing gameplay for anyone else in the slightest. It effects no one. If you want to put the game aside for the entire 10 years, that’s your choice, but why let it upset you that there is people who don’t want to do that? It’s a waste of space in your brain to even bother thinking about it if you ask me. Don’t let it bother you.

[[IHRB] (P)(R)oland]

Originally posted by Trindalas:

Originally posted by IHRB (P)(R)oland:

You hope that someone voting against cheaters is a bait? hmmmm, sorry to dissapoint u, but it's not.

Currently gaming is rotten with cheating to the core. Casuals cheat in MP games everywhere, pros cheating in tournaments, people calling themselves" achievement hunters" cheat achievements that actually require effort or skill to make.
It's madness what kind of ♥♥♥♥ gaming became - gaming which is supposed to be a fun, relaxation for casuals, and normal sport rivalry for pros.

For you maybe it is a joke, but for me small things lead to big things, and not penalizing casuals for cheating is the direct reason why pros are not panalized for cheating too.

More specifically it requires an utter lack of any effort whatsoever. And I imagine people would rather not never play the game for 10 years, games are fun to replay occasionally and that’s a long time. Also, this is an entirely different situation from professional/multiplayer cheats. This is not influencing gameplay for anyone else in the slightest. It effects no one. If you want to put the game aside for the entire 10 years, that’s your choice, but why let it upset you that there is people who don’t want to do that? It’s a waste of space in your brain to even bother thinking about it if you ask me. Don’t let it bother you.

It is exactly the same impact as MP games, just on the other level of gaming. In achievement hunters community there are rankings on how many perfect games people unlocked, or how many hard achievements they were able to beat. There are separate sites that count all statistcs, there are communities built around this dimension of gaming. I am not involved in such rankings myself or race for any kind of having most perfect games, as I play to my own standards which are a lot slower and harder than normal achievement hunting, but there is a lot of people that are involved in this - which I perfectly understand.
So cheating achievements do impact this rivalry, race or whatever u call it, do impact rankings. Yes, it does't impact ur other achievement hunters' gaming experience, but it impacts the outcome of it.

Using your logic - it's ok to cheat speedruns right?
I mean, do u impact other people's gaming experience by cheating ur own speedrun? No you don't. You are not on the same server, u don't play together, so all you did is you cheated ur own game, and after cheating, your outcome is provided to some small community rankings (yes, speedrunners is very small community compared to hundreds millions players worldwide, it is a lot smaller than achievement hunterrs community actually).
So all is good right, noone is impacted in-game, let's don't bother about speedruns cheaters?

Nah, I do not think it is the way gaming should look like.

[Neutral Star]

Originally posted by IHRB (P)(R)oland:

It is exactly the same impact as MP games, just on the other level of gaming. In achievement hunters community there are rankings on how many perfect games people unlocked, or how many hard achievements they were able to beat. There are separate sites that count all statistcs, there are communities built around this dimension of gaming. I am not involved in such rankings myself or race for any kind of having most perfect games, as I play to my own standards which are a lot slower and harder than normal achievement hunting, but there is a lot of people that are involved in this - which I perfectly understand.
So cheating achievements do impact this rivalry, race or whatever u call it, do impact rankings. Yes, it does't impact ur other achievement hunters' gaming experience, but it impacts the outcome of it.

Using your logic - it's ok to cheat speedruns right?
I mean, do u impact other people's gaming experience by cheating ur own speedrun? No you don't. You are not on the same server, u don't play together, so all you did is you cheated ur own game, and after cheating, your outcome is provided to some small community rankings (yes, speedrunners is very small community compared to hundreds millions players worldwide, it is a lot smaller than achievement hunterrs community actually).
So all is good right, noone is impacted in-game, let's don't bother about speedruns cheaters?

Nah, I do not think it is the way gaming should look like.

While I completely agree that people who cheat achievements are pathetic, I don't quite agree it's on the same level as with MP.
In MP the cheating is directly affecting other people while in SP, it's basically you ruining you own potential enjoyment of the game, but not really anyone elses.

Yes, there is the point of rivalry and Achievement tracking sites, but honestly, it's up to those sites and you yourself to filter any cheaters and then simply ignore them afterwards.
If they cheated that means you won by default. Maybe it kinda sucks if you thought of a personal as your rival, but hey, there is plenty fish in the sea. If you really want to have a rival in achievement hunting, you can always find someone legit.

[MessiahofMelons]

Achievements give nothing and are totally meaningless. Hence why nobody cares about it people cheating.

What I don't get is what you get for cheating the achievement? Until 10 years pass everyone will know, and after 10 years it wont matter

[SodaDrinker69]

the only thing more pathetic than cheating to obtain achievements is to so deeply care that other people "cheat" to cross off entries on a meaningless checklist

e: i invite anyone confused at op's bizarre take on changing your system time to obtain a jpg on your steam profile sooner to just look at their steam profile as it explains a lot about this thread lol

[Its not a phase, mom]

How is it cheating though? Some games require you to change the system time, it's a common 4th wall breaking technique. I'm fairly certain that the developers intended players to change their clocks, especially that the whole game is about 4th wall breaking.
If the developers want you to do something, it's not cheating. And in this case it's very clear that the developers want you to change your system clock. Otherwise they wouldn't put an achievement in the game that requires you not to play for 10 years.