Any way to remove same sex marriage from this game?

[明星ヒマリ]

If not hopefully there will be a mod later on to remove it.

[Shakzor]

Or just don't marry someone from the same sex? No need for a mod to remove it, just don't date a boy when choosing boy or the other way around

[Kuugenthefox]

What about a way to remove you from this forum, OP?

[2d0x]

Originally posted by Kuugenthefox:

What about a way to remove you from this forum, OP?

But what about the big words about tolerance? Is freedom of speech the right to say only what is considered right and acceptable by a certain group of people? Who and by what criteria determines the admissibility of certain discussions on Steam?

[Sigvuld]

Originally posted by 2d0x:

Originally posted by Kuugenthefox:

What about a way to remove you from this forum, OP?

But what about the big words about tolerance? Is freedom of speech the right to say only what is considered right and acceptable by a certain group of people? Who and by what criteria determines the admissibility of certain discussions on Steam?

The criteria is whether or not someone's very existence, and things about it they have absolutely no control over and are simply born that way, is the thing that's making someone else uncomfortable

Nobody's making OP partake in or even SEE gay marriage in-game, but RF5 is the first time in RF that I know of where a gay person can actually have a marriage that suits them, and OP doesn't want them to have that option

One is being hateful of others based on things they have no control over, and the other is replying sharply in response to this baseless hatred because the OP's hate is something they could 100% be better about, but choose not to, so yes, much like someone saying gross things about another person inside a public shop, them being removed is an entirely reasonable thing to have happen

That whole " *takes off sunglasses slowly* Heh. So much for free speech, hmm?" angle really isn't the mic drop you think it is - it's utterly embarrassing and deserving of mockery, unlike the traits someone is born with and has no control over

Also, since you pulled the "muh free speech" card, I'll just remind your uneducated "anti-SJW", kindergarten-level rhetoric spewing ass that freedom of speech protects you from the government, not from being treated distastefully by privately owned venues / private groups or the people you call slurs for existing in a manner which you can perceive. Freedom of speech doesn't protect you from being mocked for wearing belligerent idiocy like a badge of honor

Here's an example of free speech working both ways, just to make it nice and easy for you to understand : You are performing every role in the circus at once for our entertainment while calling the audience clowns - feel free to keep dancing, you precious, confused little jester.

I'll never see your response, btw. <3 Scream into the void for me.

To OP: Gay people exist, and there's a LOT of them. You'll be fine.

[2d0x]

Originally posted by Sigvuld:

The criteria is whether or not someone's very existence, and things about it they have absolutely no control over and are simply born that way, is the thing that's making someone else uncomfortable

Nobody's making OP partake in or even SEE gay marriage in-game...

However, this is true for both opposing positions.
The possibility of same-sex marriage didn't come out of nowhere in this series. This has been requested by some users. And there is no evidence that such an innovation was requested by the majority, or that the majority is satisfied with it.
The OP wants to remove this for the same reason that someone asked for this to be added.

Originally posted by Sigvuld:

...Also, since you pulled the "muh free speech" card, I'll just remind your uneducated "anti-SJW", kindergarten-level rhetoric spewing ass that freedom of speech protects you from the government...

Oh, I see labels and fantasies are being used!
Let me remind you that I did not state my position in any way. I am dissatisfied with the stupid argument and nothing more.
Freedom of speech does not protect you from anything, do not invent! In the real world, your word will be ignored, or you will be silenced in one way or another (force, opposition, empty promise, and so on).

Sigvuld, does your addiction to using rhetoric a la "uneducated "anti-SJW"", "kindergarten-level rhetoric spewing ass", "confused little jester" to your opponent give you confidence and make you believe it yourself, or are you just playing for an audience that does not want to think for itself?

P.S.: The moral is that it would be good manners to ask about the player's attitude towards same-sex marriage and, based on the answer, add or remove such an option. It's not that hard or expensive to implement. But a reasonable approach is not welcome here, as far as I can see...

[zero]

bigots are bigots, just report it and move on.

being tolerant isn't about accepting bigotry, its about accepting people exist, including queer people, if you dont want to engage in a same sex marriage, don't, but don't be a bigot about it.

[Chomp]

The majority of players probably does not care too much about this too much. Probably most are happy that there are more options now. Gays exist so if your game has relationships it is good to include same sex relationships. It is as easy as this. Nobody is forcing anyone to have a same sex realtionship in game so why would anyone need this feature to be removed?

I sure as hell was happy when they finally gave the option to play as a girl in those games. And players that want to be able to romance the same sex are happy now. Why take away stuff that makes players happy because a small minority can't handle that gays exist?

[2d0x]

Originally posted by zero:

bigots are bigots, just report it and move on...

The problem is that some people see fanatics even where there aren't any. Personally, I don't see the OP being bigoted or aggressive. I think he has no less rights than homosexuals.
To be tolerant is to accept both opposing positions, not just one.

Originally posted by Chomp:

...Nobody is forcing anyone to have a same sex realtionship in game so why would anyone need this feature to be removed?..

The reasons may be different. As far as I know, same-sex marriage is prohibited by some religions. In addition, some parents may wish to protect their children from such information. In fact, the reasons are secondary. The developers are quite capable of not going to extremes and satisfy the wishes of both camps.

[zero]

Originally posted by 2d0x:

Originally posted by zero:

bigots are bigots, just report it and move on...

The problem is that some people see fanatics even where there aren't any. Personally, I don't see the OP being bigoted or aggressive. I think he has no less rights than homosexuals.
To be tolerant is to accept both opposing positions, not just one.

being tolerant isn't accepting harmful views, its openly condemning them.

he has the same rights as everyone else, play/buy the game or don't, simple as.

he chose to have an issue with their being same sex marriage, by definition: thats bigotry, especially when it would be TC's choice if it happens to their character or not.

games don't need to change to suit the needs of a random person, this is the direction they went in with their games, you can enjoy them or not, once again: simple.

[2d0x]

Originally posted by zero:

being tolerant isn't accepting harmful views, its openly condemning them...

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/american_english/tolerant

Originally posted by zero:

...he has the same rights as everyone else, play/buy the game or don't, simple as...

And also express his opinion and his preferences.

Originally posted by zero:

...he chose to have an issue with their being same sex marriage, by definition: thats bigotry, especially when it would be TC's choice if it happens to their character or not.

I didn't understand this argument. Do you think that a person should not think about the consequences in advance?

Originally posted by zero:

...games don't need to change to suit the needs of a random person...

You definitely don't think...
Since when (how long has gay marriage been in this franchise)?

[zero]

Originally posted by 2d0x:

Originally posted by zero:

being tolerant isn't accepting harmful views, its openly condemning them...

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/american_english/tolerant

Originally posted by zero:

...he has the same rights as everyone else, play/buy the game or don't, simple as...

And also express his opinion and his preferences.

Originally posted by zero:

...he chose to have an issue with their being same sex marriage, by definition: thats bigotry, especially when it would be TC's choice if it happens to their character or not.

I didn't understand this argument. Do you think that a person should not think about the consequences in advance?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

[2d0x]

Originally posted by zero:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Thank you, but I did not find anything new for myself.
If you reject tolerance, then you should take the OP for granted. If you adhere to the principles of tolerance, you must show patience.

[zero]

Originally posted by 2d0x:

Originally posted by zero:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Thank you, but I did not find anything new for myself.
If you reject tolerance, then you should take the OP for granted. If you adhere to the principles of tolerance, you must show patience.

except to be tolerant is to be intolerant of bigotry, so no, i don't have to do that, your argument is simply poor rhetoric.

point remains the same, he doesn't need to buy a game if hes so gung-ho about same-sex marriage (that would be his action to do) being an issue.

i don't need to show patience, i can call a spade a spade, and give him the answer he needs, like i did at the start:

Originally posted by zero:

bigots are bigots, just report it and move on.

being tolerant isn't about accepting bigotry, its about accepting people exist, including queer people, if you dont want to engage in a same sex marriage, don't, but don't be a bigot about it.

its his choice to engage in it or not, nothing more nothing less.

you do yourself a disservice by playing advocate for the devil, it is after all, the devil your trying to defend. not all ideas are equal, some are simply objectively wrong, bigotry being the obvious one in this context.

[2d0x]

Originally posted by zero:

Originally posted by 2d0x:

Thank you, but I did not find anything new for myself.
If you reject tolerance, then you should take the OP for granted. If you adhere to the principles of tolerance, you must show patience.

except to be tolerant is to be intolerant of bigotry...

In this case, it will no longer be tolerance.

Originally posted by zero:

...point remains the same, he doesn't need to buy a game if hes so gung-ho about same-sex marriage (that would be his action to do) being an issue...

But how did same-sex relationships come about in this franchise?! Why didn't the requesters of this feature just follow your advice?

Originally posted by zero:

...i don't need to show patience...

I didn't ask you for this.

Originally posted by zero:

...its his choice to engage in it or not, nothing more nothing less.

That's right, the OP has a choice and he wrote about what he wrote about. What is the problem?

[zero]

Originally posted by 2d0x:

Originally posted by zero:

except to be tolerant is to be intolerant of bigotry...

In this case, it will no longer be tolerance.

Originally posted by zero:

...point remains the same, he doesn't need to buy a game if hes so gung-ho about same-sex marriage (that would be his action to do) being an issue...

But how did same-sex relationships come about in this franchise?! Why didn't the requesters of this feature just follow your advice?

Originally posted by zero:

...i don't need to show patience...

I didn't ask you for this.

Originally posted by zero:

...its his choice to engage in it or not, nothing more nothing less.

That's right, the OP has a choice and he wrote about what he wrote about. What is the problem?

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