Sengoku Dynasty

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BIOHAZARD Sep 22, 2024 @ 11:18am
Virus at ... SengokuDynasty-Win64-Shipping.exe ???
The file

"...........\Steam\steamapps\common\Sengoku Dynasty\SengokuDynasty\Binaries\Win64\SengokuDynasty-Win64-Shipping.exe"

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/7f0319bd56c301ab339cd604d8c58051bf4c6b123379503ec8536dd9b8523d38?nocache=1

using Trapmine (Suspicious.low.ml.score) and Avast (IDP.Generic)
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Trien Sep 22, 2024 @ 12:45pm 
that is what you call a false positive.
SwordsOfTheSouth_Toplitz  [developer] Sep 23, 2024 @ 12:25am 
A false positive. Antivirus suites sometimes deliver such results.
bezimienny Oct 4, 2024 @ 3:23pm 
i have the same problem.I read in reddit the same problem with diffrent game in xbox windows and steam.I see in norton and virustotal.com see this same problem
JC  [developer] Oct 7, 2024 @ 12:58am 
Hey bezimienny,

We've checked the builds with 71 scanners.

For Epic Games Store 0 scanners show any problems.
For Steam Store version 1 scanner shows one problem (but of low priority).

The only difference is Steam DRM, and this might be what your scanner picked up.
Or it has virus locally on your PC.
Warmask Nov 8, 2024 @ 9:29pm 
JC, I don't know if it's DRM related or actual malware. What I do know is that my security software is telling me to not run it and has quarantined it. I just bought the game today, ive asked Norton to analyze it though I doubt they will respond. if its DRM then I would recommend you switch to a different DRM if possible, try to find something the security community is already aware of and not going to flag as malicious. Your going to get a lot of refund requests over this seeing as Norton is a pretty big security software provider. As much as I would like to override Norton and give you the benefit of the doubt, I can not as I use both my laptop and PC for work and have sensitive information on them. If you are unable to fix the issue I will have to request a refund because I can not take the risk. That would be horrible though because I like the look of the game and would love to play it.
Majii Nov 8, 2024 @ 9:37pm 
Originally posted by Warmask:
JC, I don't know if it's DRM related or actual malware. What I do know is that my security software is telling me to not run it and has quarantined it. I just bought the game today, ive asked Norton to analyze it though I doubt they will respond. if its DRM then I would recommend you switch to a different DRM if possible, try to find something the security community is already aware of and not going to flag as malicious. Your going to get a lot of refund requests over this seeing as Norton is a pretty big security software provider. As much as I would like to override Norton and give you the benefit of the doubt, I can not as I use both my laptop and PC for work and have sensitive information on them. If you are unable to fix the issue I will have to request a refund because I can not take the risk. That would be horrible though because I like the look of the game and would love to play it.
Same but with Avast. refunded today. Sucks because i love the concept.
SwordsOfTheSouth_Toplitz  [developer] Nov 8, 2024 @ 10:50pm 
Originally posted by Majii:
Same but with Avast. refunded today. Sucks because i love the concept.

Avast is aware of false positives:

If you believe our Antivirus is falsely detecting a file as malicious (which may occur due to new virus definitions being added to the application database), you can send the file to us for analysis.

You can report false positives with Avast here.[businesshelp.avast.com]
Last edited by SwordsOfTheSouth_Toplitz; Nov 8, 2024 @ 10:50pm
Ericd38790 Nov 9, 2024 @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by SwordsOfTheSouth:
Originally posted by Majii:
Same but with Avast. refunded today. Sucks because i love the concept.

Avast is aware of false positives:

If you believe our Antivirus is falsely detecting a file as malicious (which may occur due to new virus definitions being added to the application database), you can send the file to us for analysis.

You can report false positives with Avast here.[businesshelp.avast.com]

Hi, i got the same problem with avast too...

It's mostly with recent unreal games 4/5 or some unity 3D ones and the file "game-name-shipping.exe" only for unreal games...

IDP.generic is a generic security name wich seems to be due to heuristic detection... Here it happens when lauching a game...

It may occures by something in this files accessing something (protected folders, etc...) or acting very like a malware (using hooking technics between processes)? or because of a DRM or a mis-signed executable...

Fact is it's never a good thing in security terms to put an exception on a game because studios developping them are targets for hackers but it's better and surely a good pratice that you devs must contact epic and also main AV to understand what is the problem to avoid it in long term or at least speed up the white listing of your file...

I think it should more certainly be a DRM problem or a malform signature chain because it's mostly small studios or indies ones that has this problem... and it's not each update... if it was the problem could be the behaviour of what inside the file and how it acts... for example i never had this with funcon conan exiles (UE4) in years...

By the way i'm not a security expert... just have some knowledges...

I quarantine it, and send it multiple times to my av (avast) at this moment and try it again until it passes the test... but it's very annoying and need to be address quickly... For some game i had to suppress the file, restart windows (av lock the file place until you restart your pc) then verify game files for download it again... If the game is malformed signed it's the only way to bypass the problem... some maybe a good thing to make a permanent reminder in case...

Hope it will not takes weeks to be done :steammocking:
Greddador Nov 9, 2024 @ 4:10pm 
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I hope the developers can sort this out - otherwise I'll just refund the game
SwordsOfTheSouth_Toplitz  [developer] Nov 10, 2024 @ 1:14am 
Originally posted by Greddador:
I hope the developers can sort this out - otherwise I'll just refund the game
You mean the Avast devs?
You can report the falsee positive here
franzmauser Nov 10, 2024 @ 1:21am 
Originally posted by Ericd38790:
Originally posted by SwordsOfTheSouth:

Avast is aware of false positives:

If you believe our Antivirus is falsely detecting a file as malicious (which may occur due to new virus definitions being added to the application database), you can send the file to us for analysis.

You can report false positives with Avast here.[businesshelp.avast.com]

Hi, i got the same problem with avast too...

It's mostly with recent unreal games 4/5 or some unity 3D ones and the file "game-name-shipping.exe" only for unreal games...

IDP.generic is a generic security name wich seems to be due to heuristic detection... Here it happens when lauching a game...

It may occures by something in this files accessing something (protected folders, etc...) or acting very like a malware (using hooking technics between processes)? or because of a DRM or a mis-signed executable...

Fact is it's never a good thing in security terms to put an exception on a game because studios developping them are targets for hackers but it's better and surely a good pratice that you devs must contact epic and also main AV to understand what is the problem to avoid it in long term or at least speed up the white listing of your file...

I think it should more certainly be a DRM problem or a malform signature chain because it's mostly small studios or indies ones that has this problem... and it's not each update... if it was the problem could be the behaviour of what inside the file and how it acts... for example i never had this with funcon conan exiles (UE4) in years...

By the way i'm not a security expert... just have some knowledges...

I quarantine it, and send it multiple times to my av (avast) at this moment and try it again until it passes the test... but it's very annoying and need to be address quickly... For some game i had to suppress the file, restart windows (av lock the file place until you restart your pc) then verify game files for download it again... If the game is malformed signed it's the only way to bypass the problem... some maybe a good thing to make a permanent reminder in case...

Hope it will not takes weeks to be done :steammocking:
Using Avast is a receipt for disaster. If your's antivirus is detecting malware in legal steam game it means to change this soft for a proper one.
Kryten Nov 10, 2024 @ 2:41am 
Completely agree with the post above. Stop using Software like Avast. False Positives is just one Problem with them of many....
Blank Nov 24, 2024 @ 5:58pm 
Will probably refund the game as well. It probably being a 'so-called false positive' isn't reassuring at all. It's as good as saying "it's most likely a false positive, but it could also not be a false positive". Hard to just take someone's word for it, since it's also possible that after an exception is created and an actual virus is slipped in later. Not all detected threats are false positives. In many cases, cybercriminals could also be disguising malicious files as legitimate files to take advantage of these exact situations.

There's no reason why the developers of the game should not be fixing this issue on their end (but instead be asking the consumers to 'create an exception as it is a so-called false positive'); there are so many games in Steam and most of them do not have this issue, why yours then?
Last edited by Blank; Nov 24, 2024 @ 6:08pm
Herrun Nov 24, 2024 @ 6:22pm 
Is it only me, that a few years ago, stopped using antivirus? Due to all the false positives or the buy this packed to be more safe and buy this super offer for real time bla bla bla. Stopped using antivirus, no popups and my pc stopped getting blue screen.

Antivirus is a virus in a few of my friends and my view, is taking pc resources to always run in background.
Bedna Nov 25, 2024 @ 5:11am 
Originally posted by Blank:
Will probably refund the game as well. It probably being a 'so-called false positive' isn't reassuring at all. It's as good as saying "it's most likely a false positive, but it could also not be a false positive". Hard to just take someone's word for it, since it's also possible that after an exception is created and an actual virus is slipped in later. Not all detected threats are false positives. In many cases, cybercriminals could also be disguising malicious files as legitimate files to take advantage of these exact situations.

There's no reason why the developers of the game should not be fixing this issue on their end (but instead be asking the consumers to 'create an exception as it is a so-called false positive'); there are so many games in Steam and most of them do not have this issue, why yours then?

Yeah, you do that.
You clearly have zero clue how code works.
This is the equivalent of getting upset and stop trusting your home alarm after it going off when detecting movement from your dog/cat tipping something over.

Originally posted by Herrun:
Antivirus is a virus in a few of my friends and my view, is taking pc resources to always run in background.

Then you and your friends are quite frankly... not smart...
If using windows, disabling windows defender is a REALLY dumb thing to do.
You are not only putting yourself at risk, you risk OTHERS with that behavior. They are called viruses for a reason, they SPREAD from computer to computer.
Last edited by Bedna; Nov 25, 2024 @ 5:44am
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Date Posted: Sep 22, 2024 @ 11:18am
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