how to remove "alone time" debuff?

[BoxSuki]

I really need my only adult male to procreate with my only adult woman folk, but the alone time debuff makes it IMPOSSIBLE to get my male at the mood needed for this. What am i doing wrong??? T^T

[Nath]

1. Make sure they are married
   
2. Rearange their skill so that their mood boosting task is at (or 1 down from) the top, and make sure they have such a task to accomplish
   
3. Have them co-own their own double bed in a private room with indirect light from a fireplace/torch, better if the lit floors are fancy
   
4. If the bedroom is warm enough at night, manually remove their sack/fur clothing
   
5. Have them work indoors or in a nice enviroment (ie. flooring and roof to keep out of rain, away from compost pile)
   
6. Make them work only after they took care of their hunger, thirst, cleanliness, need to poop etc. Also make them stop working early

The main thing is to learn how to manage your folks happiness.
Bonus tip: Happy folks work faster, keep all your folks as happy as you can afford.

[Philtre]

Originally posted by Box Succii:

I really need my only adult male to procreate with my only adult woman folk, but the alone time debuff makes it IMPOSSIBLE to get my male at the mood needed for this. What am i doing wrong??? T^T

It sounds like he needs to socialize more. Put him and his wife on Time Off status at the same time, and try to keep them near each other so they will talk.

PS: I assume your couple is married; if not they won't have kids. Or are you trying to recruit him as a husband for your lady? Same thing applies; he needs someone with free time so they can talk.

[BoxSuki]

okay ill try that, thanks

[LonelyNeptune]

None of the answers above answered the question. The alone time debuff specifically states they need some alone time away from other people. I accomplished this by locking them in the loo for a day. The debuff goes away and then you can do your usual mood-boosting things to convince your couple to have a baby.

[Great Sage Equal of Heaven]

Does anyone know what causes or triggers this debuff

[Nath]

Originally posted by Prosecutor Godot:

Does anyone know what causes or triggers this debuff

I think it may mostly happen to overstressed Clanfolk.

Never noticed that behaviour on my main save, but after starting an Orphan's game with 5 sheep, the folk regularly seeked alone time; them working by themselves away from the others satisfied their need to be alone in a few seconds, then they got a boost from it (Clanfolk mined iron by itself inside enclosed moutain freezer, mining is his favorite job).

[dissent]

Originally posted by Prosecutor Godot:

Does anyone know what causes or triggers this debuff

I think it just procs from time to time. I have had clans who are all deliriously happy, on Free Time all day, tons of food and good clothing, the best of everything - and they still get it regularly. I think it's just a default occasional proc to mix things up a bit. If it prevents a pregnancy, I Just wait for the next night. It's gone by then.

[dissent]

It appears that Alone Time is bugged. My current clan are all very happy, all on Free Time most of the day. They are often Joyous, often have Good Talk. Except for one, who has Alone Time almost perpetually. I don't monitor their status continually but I check them all from time to time. I'd say that of every seven times I've checked her, she's had Alone Time active five times. She doesn't get it for years on end, it'll only be for four or five days at a time. But then she gets a day without it and almost immediately, within 24 hours, she has it again.

There is no rhyme or reason for it. She is not working hard, isn't stressed or in need of anything. She has exactly the same conditions as the rest of the clan. Yet it's an almost perpetual debuff for her. I haven't seen it on anybody else in the clan. With no information on what causes it and no way to cure/prevent it, it's very annoying.

Edit: I did manage to cure one bout of Alone Time now, albeit brutally. I sent her to the far side of the map during a blizzard and Stopped her for the entire day. You want to be alone? OK, I'll let you be alone. That night, long after the clan had gone to bed, I un-Stopped her and let her trudge back, starving and with hypothermia, to the settlement. She had lost the Alone Time by the time she got back. Hopefully that will reacquaint her with the notion that being around people isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[Great Sage Equal of Heaven]

Cruel and unusual punishment!

[dissent]

Effective, though. :D

I have no time for Marlene Dietrich "I vant to be alone" types. This is 1300s Scotland, not a modern urban setting with therapists and Netflix and FaceBook. Clan members need to work together and get along.

I'll probably build an extra-stinky poop-hole out there, and then surround the whole thing with acres of Thistles. So next time, it'll take her even longer to get home and she'll have brambles in her botty too. If she wants to play the entitled prima donna, she must pay the price. Harsh but fair, I reckon.

[miauukisu]

That folk is introvert, no need to punish for that. Just give them a job that can be done away from others and constant natter natter natter of irrelevant stuff, so they can hear themselves thinking for a change ;)
But folk do have different social multipliers, some need more interaction than others; those who get too much interaction want Alone time. (Just like in real life, far too often those are just the ones that everyone else chases with free time gossiping when they could not care less and would be happier somewhere far from everyone (or in case of mothers, that someone would take the baby just for a moment so that they could breathe for a while before going back to task of being a loving parent ;D ))

[dissent]

Your explanation makes sense, thanks. Her Social multi is the lowest in the clan at 0.72. However, it's not extraordinarily low as there are others at 080, 0.88, 0.90 and 0.91 - and none of them has had Alone Time ever from what I've seen. So why she should have it almost perpetually remains a mystery.

Unless it' s a hidden bar that fills up over time and she will only take action to move the bar just above its critical level - like a worker at night eating only just enough to remove the Hunger debuff, then needing to eat again at sunrise. That maybe explains why she had Alone Time frequently but never for an extended period.

She certainly had more than enough opportunity to separate herself from others if she so wished. I sent her off to the edge of the map in early winter. The clan had been overwhelmingly on Free Time for the whole of fall (this is now year two) so she could have wandered off and stood in a field the entire day if she so wished. It's possible she did that but it wasn't enough. If so, then it seems my emergency measure of keeping her out long after dark and miles away from the settlement did the trick. She hasn't had Alone Time since and it's now a full season later in early spring. I've also kept an eye on her over the winter and she doesn't seem inclined to spend time away from others. She usually socialises in the gathering room along with 4-5 others, when there are plenty of other heated but empty rooms where she could be on her own.

I'm disinclined to give her special treatment. I don't tinker with priorities or allocating stations or jobs to individual members at all as it leads to glitches and bottlenecks ime. Everybody in the clan does whatever jobs are allocated and everybody shares the communal facilities. They each get their allocated bed and that is the only individual treatment I give. For the rest, it's Marxism all the way. :D

[dissent]

Update: it's spring year 3 now and there's nothing to do so I started watching the clan all day to monitor Alone Time. I did manage to spot it in someone else - unsurprisingly, in the juvenile with 0.80 Social multiplier, the second-lowest in the clan. However, it was only temporary. She got it in the evening, slept alone in her private room, and it was gone by the next morning. That's the only other case of it that I've seen.

As they're all on Free Time, I also monitored their movements as they were free to go where they please. I did get one instance where the two lowest Social multi members were off on their own, while the bulk of the clan were in the gathering room. But I also had several other instances where the two loners were in the gathering room with the crowd and it was others (sometimes with high Social multi scores) who were off on their own somewhere. There wasn't a pattern that I could discern.

[clyneymeister]

Was this woman a mother with a baby? Nursing leads to some very high social gains. I have an introverted mother and her social bar is almost constantly maxed. There doesn't seem to be anything i can do about it, she just has to eat the debuff.
I don't think Blorf intended to make a post-partum depression simulator yet here we are.

[dissent]

No, she was a single person at the time. But she had a very low Social multi. The trip to the edge of the world seemed to rectify matters, she hasn't had Alone Time since. Not that I've noticed anyway and I check her quite often.