RROX is losing it's support

[Humanity_KILLS]

It's with sad news I am reporting this. As much as I love RO, I am not sure I would have played it as much without RROX. The mod is losing it's support because of a few reasons, one of them being that the game developers are not giving support for mod support which would make mods like RROX much easier to implement.

Having said that, I am petitioning the game Devs to consider mod support, or at least bring all the features of RROX into the game. I know Kueme said it's a simulator first and sandbox second, but how can it be a sandbox at all if mods aren't available to the community. If you think mods should be in the game please sign the petition by replying to this thread. The Devs of RO have been very supportive and loves it's community, so let them hear our voices! I believe this will only make the game stronger and more popular. Games with mod support can last for decades.

[fixins]

Did it ever even have support to lose? The final product should have enough functionality built-in that there shouldn't be a need for it.

[darkSol]

Originally posted by Humanity_KILLS:

It's with sad news I am reporting this. As much as I love RO, I am not sure I would have played it as much without RROX. The mod is losing it's support because of a few reasons, one of them being that the game developers are not giving support for mod support which would make mods like RROX much easier to implement.

Having said that, I am petitioning the game Devs to consider mod support, or at least bring all the features of RROX into the game. I know Kueme said it's a simulator first and sandbox second, but how can it be a sandbox at all if mods aren't available to the community. If you think mods should be in the game please sign the petition by replying to this thread. The Devs of RO have been very supportive and loves it's community, so let them hear our voices! I believe this will only make the game stronger and more popular. Games with mod support can last for decades.

I was pretty devastated to get this news myself. There's not much hope for the devs to do anything for us loyal players who can't suffer through this game without the essential features RROx provides.

I honestly don't think any player who had used these features would ever play the game without them, if they had them and lost them like we have. The only reason more players aren't clamoring for these features is that they either didn't know that RROx existed, could not be bothered to do the simple install, or weren't quite willing to trust that it was safe to use it and so never gave it a chance.

As for hoping for mod support, that is so far down their priority list it might not even be on it at all. Won't happen any time soon no matter how many people complain.
For any hope that these features will get into the base game, again, so far down the priority list that we'd be lucky to see most of them by 1.0. The devs simply DO NOT know how essential and game changing these features are for single player long term enjoyment of the game. You can only suffer through the vanilla process of loading long trains so many times before you want to uninstall the game and never play it again.

The fact that it would be a trivial manner for them to implement a method to focus on the cranes while advancing the loco in the UI, and they simply have no willingness to put that in the game shows how little they understand how much this transforms the play-ability of the game.

Once the main branch updates to the current beta, I'm done with the game. I'll be waiting patiently for COS and just pray that it gets an early access release so that it doesn't take years to become playable.

[Humanity_KILLS]

Originally posted by fixins:

Did it ever even have support to lose? The final product should have enough functionality built-in that there shouldn't be a need for it.

You obviously don't understand how it works. I suggest you join the RROX discord and educate yourself. RROX didn't appear out of thin air, and it requires work everytime RO updates, plus a whole bunch of other things like servers and support for problems. It was all voluntary, for the love of the game.

[Puncake]

Soon we won't need it anyway:
https://trello.com/b/wPd1cEx2/railroads-online-update-roadmap
That "option to throw switches from map" is a big one for me

[illudedPerception]

Originally posted by Puncake:

Soon we won't need it anyway:
https://trello.com/b/wPd1cEx2/railroads-online-update-roadmap
That "option to throw switches from map" is a big one for me

RROx did alot more then just switches on map, like
* Fast sprint (i used it for building mostly)
* Locomotive sync for double, triple or more heading locomotives. (Good for single player)
* Free form teleporting anywhere between the map borders, something you can't do in the base game and probably never will.
* Edit money and xp (definitely will not be in the game), what is not really a big deal but if needed it was there.

and theres more and some of that is probably gonna be in the game soon, as i understand the trello roadmap

[Snufkin]

very sad and will probably stop me playing for now. My biggest issue is surveying and it makes me raise a wry smile when i read this

Originally posted by Humanity_KILLS:

I know Kueme said it's a simulator first and sandbox second, b

A railway building simulator game with no surveying. No accurate indication of height, no way to align roads. Since launch we've asked for something to help us build whether it's something UI or Map based in game era accurate surveying tools.

RROX made building fun. Trying to get that 2% Grade rather than a 3% or a 4% instead of a 8% It made it easier to building something based in reality rather than a spaghetti of bridges

I opened up Aurora Falls and thought - wow yeah this is pretty. And then promptly closed it knowing i wouldn't want to build until i had RROX's map and contour lines.

[illudedPerception]

Straight outta store page "Build your dream railroad across a huge open world! You can build tracks and stations, drive detailed locomotives, and transport goods to earn money and experience. Play exciting Online Multiplayer sessions with your friends or create your very own Single-player sandbox"

[nothenrycat]

I love the latest updates and content of RRO very much, but, and this is a big BUT, without RROx it's still operational a pain in the neck! And I have not much hope that this will change very much in March. Unfortunateley, the head developers of RRO, including Keume, seem to be stout 1870-fans. In 1870 working on the railroads was a mighty hard job, only for real men. Therefore, operating RRO should be damn hard too!! This seems to be their motto and all you namsipamsies using RROx should go to railroad hell!

[Puncake]

Originally posted by nothenrycat:

I love the latest updates and content of RRO very much, but, and this is a big BUT, without RROx it's still operational a pain in the neck! And I have not much hope that this will change very much in March. Unfortunateley, the head developers of RRO, including Keume, seem to be stout 1870-fans. In 1870 working on the railroads was a mighty hard job, only for real men. Therefore, operating RRO should be damn hard too!! This seems to be their motto and all you namsipamsies using RROx should go to railroad hell!

ouch

[Schorsche]

and almost the same day official support for Railroader with switching via clickable minimap is introduced. Karma has a strange sense of humor.

[illudedPerception]

Originally posted by Schorsche:

and almost the same day official support for Railroader with switching via clickable minimap is introduced. Karma has a strange sense of humor.

well the news are actually like 2 days old now, it just took a bit to make an public announcement about RROx end of life

[Snufkin]

Originally posted by nothenrycat:

Therefore, operating RRO should be damn hard too!! This seems to be their motto and all you namsipamsies using RROx should go to railroad hell!

It was hard but they had maps with contour lines and survey tools, just don't tell K ;)

[That_Dirty_Rat]

Originally posted by Snufkin:

very sad and will probably stop me playing for now. My biggest issue is surveying and it makes me raise a wry smile when i read this

Originally posted by Humanity_KILLS:

I know Kueme said it's a simulator first and sandbox second, b

A railway building simulator game with no surveying. No accurate indication of height, no way to align roads. Since launch we've asked for something to help us build whether it's something UI or Map based in game era accurate surveying tools.

RROX made building fun. Trying to get that 2% Grade rather than a 3% or a 4% instead of a 8% It made it easier to building something based in reality rather than a spaghetti of bridges

I opened up Aurora Falls and thought - wow yeah this is pretty. And then promptly closed it knowing i wouldn't want to build until i had RROX's map and contour lines.

I did and said the same thing! Very nice map, but there is no way I will start another build without RROX. The in game tools just don't make it fun, it makes it tedious. I am coming up on 1500 hours in game, I love to build, but without RROX, I have zero desire to continue.

[illudedPerception]

Originally posted by That_Dirty_Rat:

Originally posted by Snufkin:

very sad and will probably stop me playing for now. My biggest issue is surveying and it makes me raise a wry smile when i read this

A railway building simulator game with no surveying. No accurate indication of height, no way to align roads. Since launch we've asked for something to help us build whether it's something UI or Map based in game era accurate surveying tools.

RROX made building fun. Trying to get that 2% Grade rather than a 3% or a 4% instead of a 8% It made it easier to building something based in reality rather than a spaghetti of bridges

I opened up Aurora Falls and thought - wow yeah this is pretty. And then promptly closed it knowing i wouldn't want to build until i had RROX's map and contour lines.

I did and said the same thing! Very nice map, but there is no way I will start another build without RROX. The in game tools just don't make it fun, it makes it tedious. I am coming up on 1500 hours in game, I love to build, but without RROX, I have zero desire to continue.

Building a bridge and falling down, that suck even with RROx sometimes, dont wanna even think about runing to a spot where i can get back to the bridge or build up there with something, also the run speed is slow, they did boost the run speed, but well can't compare to RROx fast sprint speed (the max setting)

[Mephistos]

Originally posted by illudedPerception:

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* Free form teleporting anywhere between the map borders, something you can't do in the base game and probably never will.
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Telegraph system provide almost the same thing... yes you need to run over there first...
but i think teleport system of rrox break a little the simulation part..but that is my opinion