Question about rebirth.

[Faith]

So I got to lineage 30 on my first character before I was killed by a big fat toad. I dont know exactly how it works or what ive done but my new character was born signifigantly more powerful than my first one? With several dozen times more vigor, load, over double the chi. Base damage of all attacks are significantly higher too. I figured I was supposed to get a little stronger but this is a little silly isnt it?

[JustaGamer]

Originally posted by Faith:

I figured I was supposed to get a little stronger but this is a little silly isnt it?

It is. My 2nd character reborn and can get up to 30000 Vigor "right out of the gate". Tbh I'm not a fan with this system of progression.

- I'm attached to the original character, it should be possible to become more and more powerful to beat the game on your first character. But that's not possible because you're gated, your first character can't get powerful enough because of a semi-hardcap, and definitely not strong enough to "beat" the game.

- On the other hand, as you notice you once reborn, your next character is so overpower that everything else save for (some) Sect Masters or the final bosses.


This creates a double whammy effect on replaybility IMO.

- I feel there is no point in replaying on a fresh character, because this character will always gonna be hard cap.
- The 2nd character starts out so strong that there is literally nothing to play for. All of the zone challenge are already done, 99% of the inhabitant will die if you just happen to sneeze at them. Feel like the purpose of the 2nd gen is to just spawn in the world, go to the final place and beat the game within 30min, it's really pointless.

[Faith]

True, maybe as they add new content I suppose. Which they seem to be doing fairly quickly. At the moment theres not much of a reason to press forwards but the game has a great foundation.

[ZeroSample]

Originally posted by Raven2015:

Originally posted by Faith:

I figured I was supposed to get a little stronger but this is a little silly isnt it?

- I'm attached to the original character, it should be possible to become more and more powerful to beat the game on your first character. But that's not possible because you're gated, your first character can't get powerful enough because of a semi-hardcap, and definitely not strong enough to "beat" the game.

I somewhat agree, for the most part, but I don't know about this one.
I've easily "beaten" the game with my first character. In fact, I happened to have saved right before I headed into the battle against the "final bosses", for the first time. Using said save file, I pretty much abuse those "final bosses", whenever I wanna test build ideas.

[Shaky010]

Yeah I made a comment they need to implement another option when creating a new world that sets NPC life and strength.

Basically a 100% - 1000% additive not multiplicative that affects NPC vigor and skill damage.

500hp NPC at 100% increase goes to 1000hp (500hp + 500hp) with a corresponding effect on skills.

500hp NPC at 1000% increase goes to 5500hp (500hp + 5000hp)

This way weak people stay weak but sect leaders with 10khp at 1000% don't become disgustingly OP either.

Of course increase % to 10000% additive can make the game more a grind and harder for the die hards that like to continually rebirth etc.

[LeDanpe]

how did you guys do it? because i tried to return my character to karma and create a new one, and the new one was not particulary strong. it felt like a downgrade

[Faith]

Get your lineage up so you can inherit a bunch of kung fu and also get relationships up / lovers so you can play as a child. Even a child with 1 parent will make you much stronger than being a orphan and 2 parents are even better. Im sure theres more nuance than that though. Stronger parents probably make a stronger child.

[GooseGooseDuck]

Originally posted by Faith:

Get your lineage up so you can inherit a bunch of kung fu and also get relationships up / lovers so you can play as a child. Even a child with 1 parent will make you much stronger than being a orphan and 2 parents are even better. Im sure theres more nuance than that though. Stronger parents probably make a stronger child.

How do you choose the other parent? my first character has 4 wives (3/4 NPC offspring are adults, one child with each wife) but despite that when i go north and reincarnate, none of my wives appear in the creation menu.

I can select my first character as my father just fine, I just cannot seem to be able to select a second parent

[hongming]

hi, my character is currently incomplete so no way to get a lover. Can I still use the lineage feature when he dies?

[Faith]

Originally posted by Sian-Hong Ming:

hi, my character is currently incomplete so no way to get a lover. Can I still use the lineage feature when he dies?

I believe if you die without a lover you can still get a single parent with whoever likes you the most.

[hongming]

Originally posted by Faith:

Originally posted by Sian-Hong Ming:

hi, my character is currently incomplete so no way to get a lover. Can I still use the lineage feature when he dies?

I believe if you die without a lover you can still get a single parent with whoever likes you the most.

Thanks for the answer friend, I assume that mean the lineage point can be used