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zippydsmlee Jan 12, 2023 @ 3:12am
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How bad is the censorship/wokeness?
If its not be gutted and cheapened remaster I have no problem buying it again.

If not then I will wait until the community mods it all back in.
Originally posted by Zeorginas:
I noticed changed posters around the Ishimura which replaced the white males with people of color and those guys that arrive with you but die within the very few minutes.

Kendra and Nicole look very weird compared to their original look. Apparently intentionally making them ''ugly'' or older for SJW reasons.

Overall voice acting is meh tier except Isaac's and Nicole. ( sense of urgency or caution and fear is gone especially from Hammond )


Noticing from the new trailer that just recently dropped i can smell the heavy scripted events and set pieces from far away.


Animations are in some cases pretty janky or in Isaac's case almost entirely wrong. ( compared to the original's move set. )

Speaking of Isaac... his face is now entirely DIFFERENT character and looks nothing like the original face.
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Zeorginas Jan 12, 2023 @ 3:39am 
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I noticed changed posters around the Ishimura which replaced the white males with people of color and those guys that arrive with you but die within the very few minutes.

Kendra and Nicole look very weird compared to their original look. Apparently intentionally making them ''ugly'' or older for SJW reasons.

Overall voice acting is meh tier except Isaac's and Nicole. ( sense of urgency or caution and fear is gone especially from Hammond )


Noticing from the new trailer that just recently dropped i can smell the heavy scripted events and set pieces from far away.


Animations are in some cases pretty janky or in Isaac's case almost entirely wrong. ( compared to the original's move set. )

Speaking of Isaac... his face is now entirely DIFFERENT character and looks nothing like the original face.
zippydsmlee Jan 12, 2023 @ 3:58am 
Originally posted by Zeorginas:
I noticed changed posters around the Ishimura which replaced the white males with people of color and those guys that arrive with you but die within the very few minutes.

Kendra and Nicole look very weird compared to their original look. Apparently intentionally making them ''ugly'' or older for SJW reasons.

Overall voice acting is meh tier except Isaac's and Nicole. ( sense of urgency or caution and fear is gone especially from Hammond )


Noticing from the new trailer that just recently dropped i can smell the heavy scripted events and set pieces from far away.


Animations are in some cases pretty janky or in Isaac's case almost entirely wrong. ( compared to the original's move set. )

Speaking of Isaac... his face is now entirely DIFFERENT character and looks nothing like the original face.

How can they spend so much to do so little?

I mean okay you want to do the inclusive thing, its not hard to swap things around, or make the posters digital screen that cycles images, showing more inclusiveness, same for swaping out the main character with other generic humans ala Prey. Butt messing with characters makes no sense, this is low tier low effort minority abuse at this point, I mean what else can you call cheap and shallow inclusivivity....
Zeorginas Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:13am 
Originally posted by zippydsmlee:
Originally posted by Zeorginas:
I noticed changed posters around the Ishimura which replaced the white males with people of color and those guys that arrive with you but die within the very few minutes.

Kendra and Nicole look very weird compared to their original look. Apparently intentionally making them ''ugly'' or older for SJW reasons.

Overall voice acting is meh tier except Isaac's and Nicole. ( sense of urgency or caution and fear is gone especially from Hammond )


Noticing from the new trailer that just recently dropped i can smell the heavy scripted events and set pieces from far away.


Animations are in some cases pretty janky or in Isaac's case almost entirely wrong. ( compared to the original's move set. )

Speaking of Isaac... his face is now entirely DIFFERENT character and looks nothing like the original face.

How can they spend so much to do so little?

I mean okay you want to do the inclusive thing, its not hard to swap things around, or make the posters digital screen that cycles images, showing more inclusiveness, same for swaping out the main character with other generic humans ala Prey. Butt messing with characters makes no sense, this is low tier low effort minority abuse at this point, I mean what else can you call cheap and shallow inclusivivity....
It is indeed shame. I was excited about the remake mostly because of the enviroment storytelling being better because higher tech in gaming compared to back then but this... is even worse than i imagined.
zippydsmlee Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:24am 
Originally posted by Zeorginas:
Originally posted by zippydsmlee:

How can they spend so much to do so little?

I mean okay you want to do the inclusive thing, its not hard to swap things around, or make the posters digital screen that cycles images, showing more inclusiveness, same for swaping out the main character with other generic humans ala Prey. Butt messing with characters makes no sense, this is low tier low effort minority abuse at this point, I mean what else can you call cheap and shallow inclusivivity....
It is indeed shame. I was excited about the remake mostly because of the enviroment storytelling being better because higher tech in gaming compared to back then but this... is even worse than i imagined.
Its very odd rather than just update the program to work better on modern hardware, and repack the game for faster loading, mbaye tweak the textures they spent all this time and effort on much of nothing, almost like government lul.

I swear this is a new trend or something, look up Gundam witch of mercury viewers where shocked when it switched from yuri SOL rom drama to war and death......

The world has become a parody of itself.
zenstrata Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:34am 
Originally posted by zippydsmlee:
If its not be gutted and cheapened remaster I have no problem buying it again.
If not then I will wait until the community mods it all back in.
I go over the changes in great detail in this thread.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1693980/discussions/0/3762227593072495156/
I suggest giving it a read so you can understand what has been altered from the original game.

It also has links to other threads which have now been locked after being invaded and targeted by people who did not want this information shared, Those same people entered those other threads and ranted and raved until the threads discussing the changes were locked. Their goal is to silence people pointing out the changes, because they don't want those changes to be easily found and fall under public scrutiny.

The short answer is, right now it looks like the changes are many, and many of them are entirely to push modern politics. It makes me worry significantly about the very negative effects they will have on the Dead Space Remake.

The new developers should respect the original storyline of Dead Space, and not be changing it so drastically in obvious ways, just to tick political check-boxes.
Last edited by zenstrata; Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:38pm
Kindred Spirit Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:37am 
Originally posted by zippydsmlee:
Originally posted by Zeorginas:
I noticed changed posters around the Ishimura which replaced the white males with people of color and those guys that arrive with you but die within the very few minutes.

Kendra and Nicole look very weird compared to their original look. Apparently intentionally making them ''ugly'' or older for SJW reasons.

Overall voice acting is meh tier except Isaac's and Nicole. ( sense of urgency or caution and fear is gone especially from Hammond )


Noticing from the new trailer that just recently dropped i can smell the heavy scripted events and set pieces from far away.


Animations are in some cases pretty janky or in Isaac's case almost entirely wrong. ( compared to the original's move set. )

Speaking of Isaac... his face is now entirely DIFFERENT character and looks nothing like the original face.

How can they spend so much to do so little?

I mean okay you want to do the inclusive thing, its not hard to swap things around, or make the posters digital screen that cycles images, showing more inclusiveness, same for swaping out the main character with other generic humans ala Prey. Butt messing with characters makes no sense, this is low tier low effort minority abuse at this point, I mean what else can you call cheap and shallow inclusivivity....

Yep, us "BIPOC" are the most-swappable with each other as if our own cultures and identities don't matter. Just mix-n-match your skin color ratios until you hit APPROVED! from EA's marketing. Apparently some folks think that minorities are not able to connect or identify with a character in media unless they look like us... wow, sounds kinda racist like that, huh? :lunar2019deadpanpig:

Go back and watch 70s and 80s tokenizing cartoons, if you can. That's how long it's been going on, and it really hasn't gotten any better. The idea that humanity will become more integrated vs xenophobic once space travel and different conditions start to mutate us into different species is a pretty funny one.

But the worst part is how they'll use THAT as defense for the changes otherwise as zenstrata and others have shown.

Yes, again, EA will use "BIPOC" as humans shields from criticism for their corporate exploitation, it's just *lovely*.
Last edited by Kindred Spirit; Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:40am
Mr British Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:42am 
Honestly why buy a remaster when you can use a 4090 to upscale the game and play it looking like a remaster.
Zeorginas Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:50am 
Originally posted by zippydsmlee:
Originally posted by Zeorginas:
It is indeed shame. I was excited about the remake mostly because of the enviroment storytelling being better because higher tech in gaming compared to back then but this... is even worse than i imagined.
Its very odd rather than just update the program to work better on modern hardware, and repack the game for faster loading, mbaye tweak the textures they spent all this time and effort on much of nothing, almost like government lul.

I swear this is a new trend or something, look up Gundam witch of mercury viewers where shocked when it switched from yuri SOL rom drama to war and death......

The world has become a parody of itself.
I mean yeah but this has been trend for years now sadly. Especially from EA.
zippydsmlee Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:53am 
Originally posted by Mr British:
Honestly why buy a remaster when you can use a 4090 to upscale the game and play it looking like a remaster.
Dark souls PTDE is a bit of a pita to run, same for bioshock or Dead space 1, I mean it can kinda run, however if you are offered the game with an overhauled engine, I think it be worth 30-40 at launch, or better yet have the multiplayer for 20-30 and the single player bit for 10$ lul. I mean the prices are going to come down, but they never update the engine right, its almost always haphazard(like mass effect, ruin the ability to easily mod it with extra steps) When you can more simply hardlock the online pvp crap and leave the rest easy to change...

TL:DR if they do it respectfully its worth it, if not its worth at best 10$
zippydsmlee Jan 12, 2023 @ 4:55am 
Originally posted by zenstrata:
Originally posted by zippydsmlee:
If its not be gutted and cheapened remaster I have no problem buying it again.
If not then I will wait until the community mods it all back in.
I go over the changes in great detail in this thread.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1693980/discussions/0/3762227593072495156/
I suggest giving it a read so you can understand what has been altered from the original game.

It also has links to other threads which have now been locked after being invaded and targeted by the social-diversity warriors, who entered those other threads and ranted and raved until the threads discussing the changes were locked. Their goal is to silence people pointing out the changes, because they don't want those changes to be easily found and fall under public scrutiny.

The short answer is, right now it looks like the changes are many, and it makes me worry significantly about the changes they will have on Dead Space.

The new developers should respect the original storyline of Dead Space, and not be changing it so drastically in obvious ways, just to tick political check-boxes.
Thats what I was fearing its basically a PG13 cut for drugged out "adversity" hire kids, not really for the horror fans that make up the majority of the game..... sigh..... this is why I hate IP rights, monopolies rule without care...
Originally posted by zippydsmlee:
Originally posted by zenstrata:
I go over the changes in great detail in this thread.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1693980/discussions/0/3762227593072495156/
I suggest giving it a read so you can understand what has been altered from the original game.

It also has links to other threads which have now been locked after being invaded and targeted by the social-diversity warriors, who entered those other threads and ranted and raved until the threads discussing the changes were locked. Their goal is to silence people pointing out the changes, because they don't want those changes to be easily found and fall under public scrutiny.

The short answer is, right now it looks like the changes are many, and it makes me worry significantly about the changes they will have on Dead Space.

The new developers should respect the original storyline of Dead Space, and not be changing it so drastically in obvious ways, just to tick political check-boxes.
Thats what I was fearing its basically a PG13 cut for drugged out "adversity" hire kids, not really for the horror fans that make up the majority of the game..... sigh..... this is why I hate IP rights, monopolies rule without care...
Very risky choice toning down the vibe and forcing identity politics for a new audience. Frictional already tried that with Amnesia Rebirth and was panned for it.

Dead Space already has a built in customer base who wont like it and the new progressive audience they are after aren't interested.
CosmicD Jan 12, 2023 @ 5:36am 
♥♥♥♥ some colored people are added to the posters on some walls, whatever am I going to do now? I'll never be able to enjoy dead space the way I used it before!

I guess.... making it more dark also equals to "inclusivity" ?

Why creating so much outrage to the slightest change ? It's the same hairtrigger response as the progressives they claim to oppose! Seriously?

*don't buy Hogwards legacy , if you do, you're a transphobe
*don't buy Dead Space, if you do, you support wokeness.

Both sides are unreasonable and just enhance eachother's fanaticism.
Last edited by CosmicD; Jan 12, 2023 @ 5:43am
Originally posted by CosmicD:
♥♥♥♥ some colored people are added to the posters on some walls, whatever am I going to do now? I'll never be able to enjoy dead space the way I used it before!
It's quite a bit more than that. If what we have already is anything to go by then the whole vibe has been changed. In something like this it should be orders of magnitude more horrific than the OG, the opposite seems to be the case and it's been toned down.
zenstrata Jan 12, 2023 @ 5:43am 
The changes are significantly more than just posters being changed in the Remake. You know that Cosmic. If you really want to be fair you should list all the changes, not just the ones you feel will seem trivial to others.

If anyone wants to know the true scale of the problems with the 'Dead Space Remake', then I suggest visiting this thread.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1693980/discussions/0/3762227593072495156/

It shows how the new Dead Space Remake is departing in very significant ways from the Original Dead Space. And doing so in many bad ways.
Last edited by zenstrata; Jan 12, 2023 @ 5:46am
Kindred Spirit Jan 12, 2023 @ 5:50am 
Originally posted by CosmicD:
♥♥♥♥ some colored people are added to the posters on some walls, whatever am I going to do now? I'll never be able to enjoy dead space the way I used it before!

I guess.... making it more dark also equals to "inclusivity" ?

Why creating so much outrage to the slightest change ? It's the same hairtrigger response as the progressives they claim to oppose! Seriously?

*don't buy Hogwards legacy , if you do, you're a transphobe
*don't buy Dead Space, if you do, you support wokeness.

Both sides are unreasonable and just enhance eachother's fanaticism.

Wow, how fast the mask comes off when the POCs step off of the white knights' plantation.

JFC dude...
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