Isaac Clarke face swap?

[Spoopy_Wraith]

Kinda justcurious why the swap? I'd imagine it's less work to already have designs and a finished product to look at when designing.

I just don't understand the complete shift in his appearance.

From a developing perspective this just seems like an odd thing to put effort into like this. I mean compared to spending time elsewhere with the game.

[DanteBrane]

Dead Space has always used face scans for the characters and they needed another one for the Remake to match the fidelity of the rest of the game. After the first game, Isaac was an amalgamation of the original face and Gunner Wright's (his voice actor) facial features. They simply scanned his face and made it 100% Isaac's face now. It's hit or miss with a lot of people, as you can see. But I believe that is the explanation.

[Spoopy_Wraith]

Originally posted by DanteBrane:

Dead Space has always used face scans for the characters and they needed another one for the Remake to match the fidelity of the rest of the game. After the first game, Isaac was an amalgamation of the original face and Gunner Wright's (his voice actor) facial features. They simply scanned his face and made it 100% Isaac's face now. It's hit or miss with a lot of people, as you can see. But I believe that is the explanation.

ah okay. I don't see why they wouldn't at least attempt to maybe make colors like the hair and eyes reflect classic Isaac a bit more but thank you for the answer.

[DanteBrane]

Originally posted by Darek Baird:

ah okay. I don't see why they wouldn't at least attempt to maybe make colors like the hair and eyes reflect classic Isaac a bit more but thank you for the answer.

I agree, keeping Isaac's salt and pepper hair and some stubble would make him look better. Even the voice actors actual hair color is closer to Isaac's but they didn't do that for some reason.

[Something]

Even though they did a face scan of Isaac and Nicole's actors they could of still de-aged the models. Why they didn't choose to do that is beyond me. But now it feels like I'm gearing up to go rescue my mom, not my girlfriend.

[zenstrata]

Originally posted by Something:

But now it feels like I'm gearing up to go rescue my mom, not my girlfriend.

---As the previous poster commented, "now it feels like I'm gearing up to go rescue my mom, not my girlfriend."

**He is absolutely correct. This is the sort of thing that a change like this does. But these new Remake developers are too concerned about checking politically-correct tick-boxes, instead of focusing on preserving the original story from the first Dead Space game.

The changes to the characters in dead space are politically motivated, I go over a lot of that in this other post. I suggest you go through it, if you are curious where these changes came from, and how they will adversely affect the Dead Space story in negative ways.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1693980/discussions/0/3762227593072495156/

Of special note is my post on page 5 of that thread, which someone kindly marked with a jester icon, so it should be easy to find. I talk about why the characters were created the way they were in the first Dead Space. it was for very important story and atmosphere reasons.

Here is a quick link to that post if you are curious.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1693980/discussions/0/3762227593072495156/?ctp=5

I would just copy and paste my entire post on why character appearance matters, but it would just clog the thread and is lengthy. Check out page 6 of the thread I linked for more information.

[ymo1965]

hahaha

[Drag00n]

Originally posted by DanteBrane:

Dead Space has always used face scans for the characters and they needed another one for the Remake to match the fidelity of the rest of the game. After the first game, Isaac was an amalgamation of the original face and Gunner Wright's (his voice actor) facial features. They simply scanned his face and made it 100% Isaac's face now. It's hit or miss with a lot of people, as you can see. But I believe that is the explanation.

Straight up ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lmao. His face had a consistent design throughout the trilogy and the remake face looks nothing like real isaac. Isaac had a really iconic face already, why would they make him look like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ melvin jfc.

[Something]

Originally posted by friendly npc:

Originally posted by DanteBrane:

Dead Space has always used face scans for the characters and they needed another one for the Remake to match the fidelity of the rest of the game. After the first game, Isaac was an amalgamation of the original face and Gunner Wright's (his voice actor) facial features. They simply scanned his face and made it 100% Isaac's face now. It's hit or miss with a lot of people, as you can see. But I believe that is the explanation.

Straight up ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lmao. His face had a consistent design throughout the trilogy and the remake face looks nothing like real isaac. Isaac had a really iconic face already, why would they make him look like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ melvin jfc.

"Real Isaac" lol. What we got in the remake is about as close to the "Real Isaac" you're ever gonna get, given the remake Isaac was a direct scan of the voice actor who played Isaac Clarke in 2 and 3, and who also voiced him in the remake. Same with Nicole.

The original Isaac Clarke's face didn't look like anyone you could just randomly bump into out in the street. He looked cool, but not real. Because it's a completely 100% face scan of the voice actor, he does look now like someone you could just randomly bump into in the street, because the actor IS someone you could actually randomly bump into in the street.

I was originally against it, back before this game came out, but in the 9 MONTHS since this thread has been dead I've beaten the game multiple times and have to say, I prefer their remake look now.

[Lonit]

Originally posted by Mushman:

Originally posted by friendly npc:

Straight up ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lmao. His face had a consistent design throughout the trilogy and the remake face looks nothing like real isaac. Isaac had a really iconic face already, why would they make him look like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ melvin jfc.

"Real Isaac" lol. What we got in the remake is about as close to the "Real Isaac" you're ever gonna get, given the remake Isaac was a direct scan of the voice actor who played Isaac Clarke in 2 and 3, and who also voiced him in the remake. Same with Nicole.

The original Isaac Clarke's face didn't look like anyone you could just randomly bump into out in the street. He looked cool, but not real. Because it's a completely 100% face scan of the voice actor, he does look now like someone you could just randomly bump into in the street, because the actor IS someone you could actually randomly bump into in the street.

I was originally against it, back before this game came out, but in the 9 MONTHS since this thread has been dead I've beaten the game multiple times and have to say, I prefer their remake look now.

By the real Isaac they obviously mean the iconic look we all know and recognise. Why does it have to be someone you could bump into in the street? Why doesn't every character look like their VA in every game? Because it wouldn't fit, just like the youth pastor look doesn't fit Isaac Clarke.

If they really wanted to do the face scan thing, how much extra dev time would it have taken to just age him up a bit or at least change his hair colour to the salt and pepper-look we'd recognise, give him some stubble.. I reckon it wouldn't take as much time as it took them to age UP Nicole, they really did the actress dirty, she was 39, but the model doesn't look a day under 60, it honestly does feel like we're saving our mum or grandmother.

[HEXEN]

Originally posted by Lonit:

Originally posted by Mushman:

"Real Isaac" lol. What we got in the remake is about as close to the "Real Isaac" you're ever gonna get, given the remake Isaac was a direct scan of the voice actor who played Isaac Clarke in 2 and 3, and who also voiced him in the remake. Same with Nicole.

The original Isaac Clarke's face didn't look like anyone you could just randomly bump into out in the street. He looked cool, but not real. Because it's a completely 100% face scan of the voice actor, he does look now like someone you could just randomly bump into in the street, because the actor IS someone you could actually randomly bump into in the street.

I was originally against it, back before this game came out, but in the 9 MONTHS since this thread has been dead I've beaten the game multiple times and have to say, I prefer their remake look now.

By the real Isaac they obviously mean the iconic look we all know and recognise. Why does it have to be someone you could bump into in the street? Why doesn't every character look like their VA in every game? Because it wouldn't fit, just like the youth pastor look doesn't fit Isaac Clarke.

If they really wanted to do the face scan thing, how much extra dev time would it have taken to just age him up a bit or at least change his hair colour to the salt and pepper-look we'd recognise, give him some stubble.. I reckon it wouldn't take as much time as it took them to age UP Nicole, they really did the actress dirty, she was 39, but the model doesn't look a day under 60, it honestly does feel like we're saving our mum or grandmother.

Don't kid yourself. The only thing iconic about Isaac Clark is his suit. We don't see his face all that much in the OG and the only entry in which we get to see his original face a lot is the third and least appreciated one. The VA has some kind of nerd face and that's perfectly fine in order to fit who the character is supposed to be.

[GladiatorB200]

Originally posted by Mushman:

Even though they did a face scan of Isaac and Nicole's actors they could of still de-aged the models. Why they didn't choose to do that is beyond me. But now it feels like I'm gearing up to go rescue my mom, not my girlfriend.

yup, misses the entire point of her by making her so old

[Mirror System X]

Idk about this face, but Isaac's gotta shut up. It doesn't feel scary anymore/

[Gabi]

Originally posted by Mushman:

Even though they did a face scan of Isaac and Nicole's actors they could of still de-aged the models. Why they didn't choose to do that is beyond me. But now it feels like I'm gearing up to go rescue my mom, not my girlfriend.

Issac is 47, and was so in the og trilogy also. I think he looks about right, and so does Nicole, who given her position etc imo always looked on the young side to me. Neither are an issue imo.

[Lonit]

Don't kid yourself. The only thing iconic about Isaac Clark is his suit. We don't see his face all that much in the OG and the only entry in which we get to see his original face a lot is the third and least appreciated one. The VA has some kind of nerd face and that's perfectly fine in order to fit who the character is supposed to be. [/quote]

His look is the same in DS1, DS2 and DS3, his face is objectively iconic, to the point where me and others asked "who the ♥♥♥♥ is this??" upon seeing the remake face, because that is not Isaac Clarke