I can understand why some are mad at WOKE thing, reactions might be exaggerated BUT

[Nax]

I just want one thing, please read it all slowly before writing an answer, no hard feelings while writing this, quite opposite I wrote it totally chilled and tried to be constructive as much as possible while adding my opinion about the matter.


Let me clarify some points first;

I am 40 yo, my wires are built on logic, that is why all those WOKE discussions are laughing stock for me, I am an individual who has no problem with any LGTBQ+ community as long as they behave like an adult, I don't care if they choose to be another gender, their life, their private life, I do not have even smallest right to interfere with anyone's life or individual choices unless it endangers someone's life (which is not the case atm anyway).

For me, there are two genders scientifically and I don't discuss/argue biology and science with a WOKE supporter, waste of time and nerve.

But there is a BIG "BUT" here which people should take into consideration about media (all kinds of media, from TV programs to games, from news to movies & series)

Some people, doesn't like WOKE subject, actually they hate it. I watched tens of long discussions about this subject, some were informative and discussions took place between polite individuals, some made my blood boil because of stupidity and unbelievable ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in them.

Those people have rights as much as WOKE community. There are two genders for some people, for me too - ALTHOUGH I DON'T CARE IF THERE A GENDERLESS BATHROOM IN THE GAME - I didn't even play the remake yet, when I buy the game I play it for the horror aspect.

BUT (here comes the BUT part):

- If people don't voice their complaints, other AAA games will include "ONLY" woke aspects to their games. Read careful please, I said "ONLY".

- A dev can add WOKE aspetcs, their game, their investment, but why force it down people's throat?

- If I was a DS developer at leading position, my reaction to adding WOKE aspects to a game from my superiors or colleges would be;

"We should make it optional, this is a sensible subject, I don't care if "on default" you want to turn on WOKE aspects, but put a "turn off" button somewhere on options so we make both sides happy, a happy costumer the most important thing for us"

There are zillions of different character types in this world, noone can make everyone happy, it is impossible, the best option to do that is to give option to individuals to filter each others' flaws or unwanted aspects from each other.

One of my friend is gay, one day we encountered a LGBTQ+ crowd in city center, some of them had their ♥♥♥♥♥ in their hand waving their ♥♥♥♥♥ from side to side, while there were kids in the vicinity who had no idea wtf was going on, on the other hand my friend (who witnessed the situation with me) is one of the most polite man I have ever met, and he is from this community as well.

What I am trying to tell here is, there are always rotten apples/ideologies/individuals/morons/leaders in this world, and if your goverment/developers/friends/families don't give you an alternative option apart from what you don't like, you HAVE TO voice your concerns, so they should understand and give you options more suitable for people, which is the subject here as well.

Do devs want to add WOKE aspects, they can, but if they don't give the option for others, then those individuals have right to voice their concern. If they don't, then devs will add thos aspects to their next game again without any options to turn off, or maybe they will add next time more heavily which would cause big backlash.

One more thing, if there were such an option to turn on/off those aspects in the game and nevertheless people were complaining then there is nothing to say to those people.




Have fun everyone, PEACE....

[CheeseburgerBackpack]

You people need to go outside

[Doctor Zalgo]

Messaggio originale di nwad:

Messaggio originale di Celery Man:

Holy mother of god. Gay people exist. Hiding them behind a checkbox is cowardly. Confront your bigotry and you'll be better for it.

What bigotry? I'm bi, dude. I've been part of the community for ages. I used to go to pride parades before they started getting insane, and before the LGB turned into a market demographic. The fact that I get treated like some kind of traitor for not wanting to be used for a quick buck proves that this representation thing is a scam.

No one thinks you're a traitor. You're just naive.

[Doctor Zalgo]

Messaggio originale di Val1407:

Messaggio originale di Zoopy:

Can you imagine if this guy tried to negotiate with terrorists?

"Okay, you can kill half the hostages. That way everyone is happy."

Is that a reason to act like such a toxic ass

Yes obviously.

You don't negotiate with crazy. The people who come up with these "anti woke" posts aren't posting in good faith so they don't deserve good faith responses.

[BROgLE]

Messaggio originale di CheeseburgerBackpack:

You people need to go outside

winter is best time to play games, watch movies and vent in forums to lose some braincells

[Marius]

In fact there's already an uprising of 'normal' LGB people that believe the LGBTIQ-etc community took it far, etc. Too commerical, and all that. Personally I think these are the real LGB people that strived for acceptance, and the acceptance was there, but is now crumbling to ashes slowly cause the TIQ+ etc went yolo.

[Master Peace]

woke thing? who is focusing on that and not the necromorphs? who actually has time to look for this ♥♥♥♥? also what woke thing?

[ISAFV-Vanguard]

Messaggio originale di Nax:

I am 40 yo straight, white, male with an agenda, about to pontificate on things that have literally no personal impact on me or my life but I'ma gonna tell you all why it's wrong anywayz

Fixed it for ya mate.

[Doctor Zalgo]

Messaggio originale di Marius:

In fact there's already an uprising of 'normal' LGB people that believe the LGBTIQ-etc community took it far, etc. Too commerical, and all that. Personally I think these are the real LGB people that strived for acceptance, and the acceptance was there, but is now crumbling to ashes slowly cause the TIQ+ etc went yolo.

LGB alliance is backed by conservative and religious money. If you think they won't come for gay marriage once they've beaten the 'trans menace' you're kidding yourself.

[Spadie]

Damn, Motive should have put a trigger warning for all the snowflakes out there who can't handle gender neutral bathrooms on a SPACE STATION. Don't you think a few hundred years in the future, people will stop caring so much about ♥♥♥♥ like which toilet you use and be more worried about saving the space?

"Turn off woke aspects button"

My sides. My actual sides. The same idiots who cry about 'safe spaces' want ♥♥♥♥ like this because they can't handle that people who aren't exactly like them exist.

[omgilovesteak]

I dont give a damn who blows who. I just hate when originals are changed. Make your own IP if you want different things in it.

[nwad]

Messaggio originale di Mazovian Socio-Economist:

LGB alliance is backed by conservative and religious money. If you think they won't come for gay marriage once they've beaten the 'trans menace' you're kidding yourself.

There is no trans "menace". The only problem right now is certain activists trying to rush kids into transition when over a dozen studies show that the majority will desist moving into adulthood. That needs fixing. Trans adults are fine. It's all in Dr. Debra Soh's book. She got cancelled for it, so you know it's legit.

[Doctor Zalgo]

Messaggio originale di Spadie:

Damn, Motive should have put a trigger warning for all the snowflakes out there who can't handle gender neutral bathrooms on a SPACE STATION. Don't you think a few hundred years in the future, people will stop caring so much about ♥♥♥♥ like which toilet you use and be more worried about saving the space?

"Turn off woke aspects button"

My sides. My actual sides. The same idiots who cry about 'safe spaces' want ♥♥♥♥ like this because they can't handle that people who aren't exactly like them exist.

The right went from saying "veterans wanting trigger warnings for things that trip their PTSD are snowflakes" to "I want video games to be safespaces where I don't have to look at gender neutral bathrooms".

[BROgLE]

Messaggio originale di Val1407:

Messaggio originale di Zoopy:

Can you imagine if this guy tried to negotiate with terrorists?

"Okay, you can kill half the hostages. That way everyone is happy."

Is that a reason to act like such a toxic ass and take it to the extreme with someone who had good intentions in the first place and tried to make things civil? This guy's right in saying you're really putting the fuel on the fire , there's a way of saying "your suggestion about adding a toggle for it is bad and here's why" , and there's just being a total ass to the person by giving no arguments whatsoever by just insulting people indirectly .

You kind of people are literally the reason why there is constant arguing in the forum everyday, because you help no one and you dont contribute anything to the discussion whatsoever

Sure things got a bit toxic but also didn't feel like OP was interested in actual discussion and why his idea is bad. More like if you don't think "this is solution" you didn't read/understand.

[Spadie]

Messaggio originale di omgilovesteak:

I dont give a damn who blows who. I just hate when originals are changed. Make your own IP if you want different things in it.

So you hate the fact weapons have upgrades now, Isaac is voiced, there's random events, theres additional side-missions that fill out the world etc?

[shitpig midwife]

Messaggio originale di Marius:

In fact there's already an uprising of 'normal' LGB people that believe the LGBTIQ-etc community took it far, etc. Too commerical, and all that. Personally I think these are the real LGB people that strived for acceptance, and the acceptance was there, but is now crumbling to ashes slowly cause the TIQ+ etc went yolo.

yes brother drink the kool-aid that the people funded by religious and conservatives who have always hated us for being queer are doling out. surely it is our allies in the struggle that are the problem and not the entities that are truly in power and passing legislation. yes, we are the only good ones, and solidarity means nothing anymore!

it's funny how little you know about this considering you're including intersex people as some of the bad ones when they're literally not even part of this current pushback.