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Erebus Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:11pm
HDD vs SSD
So the game says its not made for HDD, and is instead only meant to work on an SSD. Im relatively new to PC gaming, and never thought to use an SSD. I've experienced a few minor bugs bc I was too lazy to set up my SSD, and I just wanted to ask why the game needs to be on an SSD? I understand that games on an SSD run faster than on HDD, but why was there no consideration for the HDD? Im a lazy gamer who doesn't want to mess around when installing, turning off vsync for the original was a pain in the ass already. no hate for the game, I think its pretty cool so far
Originally posted by Just another Ian:
SSD loads data exponentially faster. The game is rendered so there are no loading screens. This requires an SSD drive because of that increased loading speed. It is the future of gaming. You will have to upgrade sooner or later.
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Just another Ian Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:15pm 
SSD loads data exponentially faster. The game is rendered so there are no loading screens. This requires an SSD drive because of that increased loading speed. It is the future of gaming. You will have to upgrade sooner or later.
Oku Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:19pm 
It all comes down to how things are loaded in to memory so your display device can present them to you on screen.

All files are stored on your storage device, HDD or SSD, then as needed they are loaded in to your RAM, which is temporary storage that is extremely fast, and can quickly be fed in to the display device and CPU.

An HDD uses mechanical moving platters to store data, and so by just the simple fact of it requires parts to physically move to access data, they can never be as fast as SSDs, which store everything digitally.

So, what you end up with is an SSD can load content to RAM significantly faster than an HDD, which for games with high fidelity graphics and resource intensive systems is extremely beneficial, as it means significantly reduced loading times.

We are in the age of hardware where HDDs have been phased out for all purposes besides being cheap solutions to store large amounts of data long-term. SSDs meanwhile are pretty much mandatory for modern gaming and being the boot device your Operating System runs on, due to the almost comically huge difference in loading times.

A game that is designed to run off an SSD is a game that loads a lot of resource intensive content to memory frequently, and having an HDD would mean that game would spent a huge amount of time stalling in order to fully load its content to RAM, meaning load times between chapters would be extremely long, or moving from load cell to load cell would take a very long time.
venn Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:22pm 
Who doesn't own a SSD in 2023? Are you a time-traveling Soviet?
AmERICan Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:23pm 
Originally posted by Oku:
It all comes down to how things are loaded in to memory so your display device can present them to you on screen.

All files are stored on your storage device, HDD or SSD, then as needed they are loaded in to your RAM, which is temporary storage that is extremely fast, and can quickly be fed in to the display device and CPU.

An HDD uses mechanical moving platters to store data, and so by just the simple fact of it requires parts to physically move to access data, they can never be as fast as SSDs, which store everything digitally.

So, what you end up with is an SSD can load content to RAM significantly faster than an HDD, which for games with high fidelity graphics and resource intensive systems is extremely beneficial, as it means significantly reduced loading times.

We are in the age of hardware where HDDs have been phased out for all purposes besides being cheap solutions to store large amounts of data long-term. SSDs meanwhile are pretty much mandatory for modern gaming and being the boot device your Operating System runs on, due to the almost comically huge difference in loading times.

A game that is designed to run off an SSD is a game that loads a lot of resource intensive content to memory frequently, and having an HDD would mean that game would spent a huge amount of time stalling in order to fully load its content to RAM, meaning load times between chapters would be extremely long, or moving from load cell to load cell would take a very long time.
im waiting to see how the 5800x3D L3 cache is helping this game
Meat Rocket Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:23pm 
Originally posted by Oku:
It all comes down to how things are loaded in to memory so your display device can present them to you on screen.

All files are stored on your storage device, HDD or SSD, then as needed they are loaded in to your RAM, which is temporary storage that is extremely fast, and can quickly be fed in to the display device and CPU.

An HDD uses mechanical moving platters to store data, and so by just the simple fact of it requires parts to physically move to access data, they can never be as fast as SSDs, which store everything digitally.

So, what you end up with is an SSD can load content to RAM significantly faster than an HDD, which for games with high fidelity graphics and resource intensive systems is extremely beneficial, as it means significantly reduced loading times.

We are in the age of hardware where HDDs have been phased out for all purposes besides being cheap solutions to store large amounts of data long-term. SSDs meanwhile are pretty much mandatory for modern gaming and being the boot device your Operating System runs on, due to the almost comically huge difference in loading times.

A game that is designed to run off an SSD is a game that loads a lot of resource intensive content to memory frequently, and having an HDD would mean that game would spent a huge amount of time stalling in order to fully load its content to RAM, meaning load times between chapters would be extremely long, or moving from load cell to load cell would take a very long time.
To jump off of that, I believe its required because of how this game works and its large map. I believe triggers for events are not loading in before the room itself and people are accidentally bypassing triggers and power cells and other important items are not being spawned in by said triggers.
JoeShmo Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:34pm 
Originally posted by venn:
Who doesn't own a SSD in 2023? Are you a time-traveling Soviet?

I was going to say something similar. I mean, we aren't in 2010 when SSDs were $300 for 250 gigs. I bought 2 nvme m2 drives with 2 TB capacity 4 years ago for around $200 a piece, you can get name brand quality Sata 3 SSDs for the same price as regular HDs used to go for now, like 500 gigs for $50 Western Digital, or cheaper.

It boggles my mind that even consoles have done away with old hard drives, and yet there are still people with some really old technology.

Next thing someone will say is they want to know if running the game off of a CD is as quick as doing a full install.
Originally posted by Polyhedrion:
SSD loads data exponentially faster. The game is rendered so there are no loading screens. This requires an SSD drive because of that increased loading speed. It is the future of gaming. You will have to upgrade sooner or later.
Games like Elden Ring, hell games like 2004-era World of Warcraft would like to have a word.
Dracon Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:36pm 
M.2 master race
DeadSlash Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:36pm 
Originally posted by venn:
Who doesn't own a SSD in 2023? Are you a time-traveling Soviet?
You're kidding right? I agree people SHOULD have an SDD by now, but pretty much every forum on Steam has someone raging because they 860GT doesn't run brand new games at max settings.
Originally posted by venn:
Who doesn't own a cheap $100-a-suck poop vacuum for their living pod in 2053? Are you a time-traveling Soviet?
Just another Ian Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:40pm 
Originally posted by Mung™:
Originally posted by Polyhedrion:
SSD loads data exponentially faster. The game is rendered so there are no loading screens. This requires an SSD drive because of that increased loading speed. It is the future of gaming. You will have to upgrade sooner or later.
Games like Elden Ring, hell games like 2004-era World of Warcraft would like to have a word.
It is not the same thing.
Foguettel Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:55pm 
In my country the purchasing power can be considered low, so it is, it is very common to find people who still use HDD in their machines.
Laughing With Salad Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:56pm 
Originally posted by Polyhedrion:
Originally posted by Mung™:
Games like Elden Ring, hell games like 2004-era World of Warcraft would like to have a word.
It is not the same thing.
You just don't want to admit what Big SSD is doing to your mind.
Doug Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:58pm 
If you are on an older machine without a M.2 slot, then another option is to get a M.2 PCIe adapter. I have one in my machine. My PCIe M.2 SSD is much faster than my SATA SSDs.
Shrike Jan 27, 2023 @ 7:58pm 
Originally posted by venn:
Who doesn't own a SSD in 2023? Are you a time-traveling Soviet?
Mostly people newish to pc gaming that bought an entry-level prebuilt, I'd imagine.
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