How Doesn't Isaac Know

[Franzosisch]

When you get to the mining deck and find "Nicole" Isaac believes it's her. That fine and all but then a few seconds later you find a recording that proves it's actually Cross. Why add this in. It completely breaks the immersion. The original never had this problem as there wasn't anything telling Isaac that it's not her. It's also inconsistent. Why doesn't Isaac react to this log? He reacts to some other side quest ones but one that goes completely against what he just saw he doesn't mention?

[pythonfp]

I agree, that tape was unnecessary since it spoils a late game turnaround.

[mie001]

They want to not just redo the scene, and everything they add is bs, that's my point
The new opening scene, the new boss fight, the new how-the-whole-crew-dead, is no where near good compare to the original for me
The more I played, the more disappointed I get, and the whole Nicole thing just add more weight at it

[Doug]

I believe that is more for the player than the character. Isaac saw the same video over and over from Nicole but never saw the end of it until the very end of the game. I don't believe the Isaac character saw the recording.

[Nate]

Originally posted by Franzosisch:

The original never had this problem as there wasn't anything telling Isaac that it's not her.

That's debatable. The original plays out more like a haunted house ghost story with Nicole appearing in ghastly ways that a 'real person' wouldn't do. I saw the twist ending coming from a mile away, but I've also seen Event Horizon so I knew where it was going.

Originally posted by Franzosisch:

It's also inconsistent. Why doesn't Isaac react to this log? He reacts to some other side quest ones but one that goes completely against what he just saw he doesn't mention?

That's a good question. The simple answer is, bad acting, directing, and writing. If they could make Gunner Wright 'pretend' to be upset without sounding cheesy, then it might've worked. Maybe Gunner just isn't the right person for the job, but everyone loves him anyway. Alternatively, it could be a study of mental illness. Many people who suffer from delusions aren't entirely aware of their delusion. It's like a blind spot within their mind's eye or perspective. But that's reaching. I doubt the writers are versed in symptoms of schizophrenia. "Isaac is crazy" will be the go to answer for any inconsistencies in his character. It's not the most sophisticated story.

[Veyron722skyhook]

I feel like that recording might have been in New Game + only, but I could be wrong.

[PunishedViVi]

Isaac also watched and has the recording of Nicole killing herself, and yet still believes that she's alive before he enters the range of the Marker's signals. So, he's probably just hugely in denial.

[Franzosisch]

Originally posted by NateDogg:

Originally posted by Franzosisch:

The original never had this problem as there wasn't anything telling Isaac that it's not her.

That's debatable. The original plays out more like a haunted house ghost story with Nicole appearing in ghastly ways that a 'real person' wouldn't do. I saw the twist ending coming from a mile away, but I've also seen Event Horizon so I knew where it was going.

Originally posted by Franzosisch:

It's also inconsistent. Why doesn't Isaac react to this log? He reacts to some other side quest ones but one that goes completely against what he just saw he doesn't mention?

That's a good question. The simple answer is, bad acting, directing, and writing. If they could make Gunner Wright 'pretend' to be upset without sounding cheesy, then it might've worked. Maybe Gunner just isn't the right person for the job, but everyone loves him anyway. Alternatively, it could be a study of mental illness. Many people who suffer from delusions aren't entirely aware of their delusion. It's like a blind spot within their mind's eye or perspective. But that's reaching. I doubt the writers are versed in symptoms of schizophrenia. "Isaac is crazy" will be the go to answer for any inconsistencies in his character. It's not the most sophisticated story.

Well if that's the reason would he not just deny that she's dead after seeing the end of the video?

[Franzosisch]

Originally posted by PunishedViVi:

Isaac also watched and has the recording of Nicole killing herself, and yet still believes that she's alive before he enters the range of the Marker's signals. So, he's probably just hugely in denial.

But he's in denial because he hasn't seen that she is dead.

[Franzosisch]

Originally posted by Doug:

I believe that is more for the player than the character. Isaac saw the same video over and over from Nicole but never saw the end of it until the very end of the game. I don't believe the Isaac character saw the recording.

That's inconsistent with him reacting to other logs though.

[Nate]

Originally posted by Franzosisch:

Originally posted by NateDogg:

That's debatable. The original plays out more like a haunted house ghost story with Nicole appearing in ghastly ways that a 'real person' wouldn't do. I saw the twist ending coming from a mile away, but I've also seen Event Horizon so I knew where it was going.

That's a good question. The simple answer is, bad acting, directing, and writing. If they could make Gunner Wright 'pretend' to be upset without sounding cheesy, then it might've worked. Maybe Gunner just isn't the right person for the job, but everyone loves him anyway. Alternatively, it could be a study of mental illness. Many people who suffer from delusions aren't entirely aware of their delusion. It's like a blind spot within their mind's eye or perspective. But that's reaching. I doubt the writers are versed in symptoms of schizophrenia. "Isaac is crazy" will be the go to answer for any inconsistencies in his character. It's not the most sophisticated story.

Well if that's the reason would he not just deny that she's dead after seeing the end of the video?

Depends on the nature of the illness. I recommend consulting a psyche nurse, psychologist, psychiatrist, or any healthcare worker who is educated in mental illness and symptoms of delusion. In video game terms, "Isaac is crazy" will be the go to answer for any inconsistencies in his character. It's not the most sophisticated story.

[Franzosisch]

Originally posted by NateDogg:

Originally posted by Franzosisch:

Well if that's the reason would he not just deny that she's dead after seeing the end of the video?

Depends on the nature of the illness. I recommend consulting a psyche nurse, psychologist, psychiatrist, or any healthcare worker who is educated in mental illness and symptoms of delusion. In video game terms, "Isaac is crazy" will be the go to answer for any inconsistencies in his character. It's not the most sophisticated story.

It's more likely bad direction and a lack of communication between developers. The '08 version didn't have as glaring as a problem as this.

[ymo1965]

So much for the devs keeping faithful to the original lol

[Smetrix]

Originally posted by Franzosisch:

Originally posted by NateDogg:

Depends on the nature of the illness. I recommend consulting a psyche nurse, psychologist, psychiatrist, or any healthcare worker who is educated in mental illness and symptoms of delusion. In video game terms, "Isaac is crazy" will be the go to answer for any inconsistencies in his character. It's not the most sophisticated story.

It's more likely bad direction and a lack of communication between developers. The '08 version didn't have as glaring as a problem as this.

Well no, they probably did not even know Gunner (Voice actor) or even consider having a voiced protagonist at the time lol.

[Franzosisch]

Originally posted by Smetrix:

Originally posted by Franzosisch:

It's more likely bad direction and a lack of communication between developers. The '08 version didn't have as glaring as a problem as this.

Well no, they probably did not even know Gunner (Voice actor) or even consider having a voiced protagonist at the time lol.

From the very start they advertised the remake as having Wright return to add voice acting.

[Smetrix]

Originally posted by Franzosisch:

Originally posted by Smetrix:

Well no, they probably did not even know Gunner (Voice actor) or even consider having a voiced protagonist at the time lol.

From the very start they advertised the remake as having Wright return to add voice acting.

No, back in 2008, not currently lol.