Supplice

Supplice

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Evilhog Apr 6, 2023 @ 12:23pm
What happened to the previous protagonist?
Early promo materials for Supplice used to show a different player character:
https://twitter.com/Awesreek/status/1426385292454469635/photo/1
https://imgur.com/svhbd0l
Was she removed completely? Or, perhaps, we can find her as an NPC?
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Zaxx Apr 6, 2023 @ 12:46pm 
She got high on her own Supplice.
PootisMayo Apr 6, 2023 @ 2:24pm 
There was an entire announcement thread about this and everyone just started yelling about it at the top of their hearts like it mattered to them and their lives.
PootisMayo Apr 6, 2023 @ 5:37pm 
And here comes the offensiveness. Unless they may have the sprites of the older model, it was removed completely.
Last edited by PootisMayo; Apr 6, 2023 @ 5:42pm
Purps™ Apr 6, 2023 @ 8:41pm 
Originally posted by PootisMayo:
And here comes the offensiveness. Unless they may have the sprites of the older model, it was removed completely.

If you look at your own reflection ingame (only possible with floors right now) you see a bald male placeholder sprite so there's likely never been a sprite of the first protag redesign.
Zaxx Apr 7, 2023 @ 8:11am 
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Originally posted by Traumaturgy:
Thanks to this thread i will not be buying this game. I was hoping for Doom inspired shooter without any agenda except "im badass and I kill demons/monsters".
Putting woke stuff into games is a no-no for me. Its sad to see that even small indie games arent free from this stuff.
Honestly if you associate having a black lady as the protagonist with "woke" then just go away, please. Like seriously what are you doing here go to some "preserve the white man" rally or whatever.

I don't like crapping on the work of indie devs but if you look at the "original" character art it becomes fairly obvious that not much effort was put into that one. It basically equals to the devs saying "we want to have a female protagonist in the game" as a concept. That might not sound very original nowadays when every second boomer shooter is trying to stick out with the "look, it's a badass girl" concept but back when the idea for Supplice was born it was not an overused idea at all.

As to why the protag is black now, we don't know why and there can be a million reasons behind that decision including but not limited to what I was talking about: everybody's doing the generic white girl now. Ion Fury, Selaco, Nightmare Reaper, Viscerafest and a bunch of other retro shooters (Serious Sally lol, yeah, that actually exists) are all doing the white girl thing and most of them are even brunettes, there isn't even a redhead or a blonde in sight. It's kind of embarrassing even if the last thing you care about in a game like this is the character design.

Having a black lady is just cool in that context because yeah, it's not white brunette girl again and that adds a bit of variety. It can also be that the voice acting will be done by a black woman and they wanted the protagonist to match the voice, as I've said: it can be a million things.
Mr.SeriousCatt Apr 7, 2023 @ 8:15am 
Yeah, the game could be a masterpiece, but "hey... its a b woman, Im not buying it." Sounds s*pd. Even if the wall text terminals have woke things, just ignore them
Traumaturgy Apr 7, 2023 @ 9:18am 
Why would I ignore parts of product i buy (terminals)? By putting certain things into game (even tho it was promoted differently) devs manifested their views and opinions.
By not buying their product im manifesting mine. Its so simple.
Last edited by Traumaturgy; Apr 7, 2023 @ 9:20am
PootisMayo Apr 7, 2023 @ 9:33am 
Originally posted by Traumaturgy:
Why would I ignore parts of product i buy (terminals)? By putting certain things into game (even tho it was promoted differently) devs manifested their views and opinions.
By not buying their product im manifesting mine. Its so simple.
Seeing as this is all you’re thinking about, you leave me with no choice now.
Last edited by PootisMayo; Apr 7, 2023 @ 9:36am
Traumaturgy Apr 7, 2023 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by PootisMayo:
Seeing as this is all you’re thinking about, you leave me with no choice now.

?? I dont even understand what you mean.
Renaissance Eric Apr 7, 2023 @ 10:34am 
Thanks to this thread, it's introduced me to several Steam users I can add to my ignore list for exposing themselves as pathetic basement dwellers who like throwing around the word "woke" as if any of them actually understood it's meaning.
Mr.SeriousCatt Apr 7, 2023 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by Traumaturgy:
Why would I ignore parts of product i buy (terminals)? By putting certain things into game (even tho it was promoted differently) devs manifested their views and opinions.
By not buying their product im manifesting mine. Its so simple.

Because for a doom clone mod its f secondary and not mandatory, like reading all the books on skyrim. Besides, I didnt see anything weird or woke on the terminals at the moment...
Zaxx Apr 7, 2023 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by Mr.SeriousCatt:
Originally posted by Traumaturgy:
Why would I ignore parts of product i buy (terminals)? By putting certain things into game (even tho it was promoted differently) devs manifested their views and opinions.
By not buying their product im manifesting mine. Its so simple.

Because for a doom clone mod its f secondary and not mandatory, like reading all the books on skyrim. Besides, I didnt see anything weird or woke on the terminals at the moment...
I wouldn't work on convincing someone who thinks that the existence of a black protagonist means "woke thing".
Fideo Apr 7, 2023 @ 11:38am 
The good developer has deleted the thread so as not to have reference to the original character design.
Does anyone have a link or screenshot where it can be seen?
Have the developers given the reasons for the change?
Shadow_Actual Apr 7, 2023 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by Renaissance Eric:
Thanks to this thread, it's introduced me to several Steam users I can add to my ignore list for exposing themselves as pathetic basement dwellers who like throwing around the word "woke" as if any of them actually understood it's meaning.
The meaning of "woke" is very simple: it means "anything that reactionary chuds disapprove of". It is just the latest in a very long series of snarl words. See also Social Justice Warrior.

It's not like words have meanings where they're concerned. There's no reason to pay attention to what they're saying, because words are wind. Pay attention to what they're communicating and what they're doing instead.
Fideo Apr 7, 2023 @ 12:01pm 
https://twitter.com/CagesCorner/status/828726977741873152

Is this the original design?
It doesn't seem that the change was for Woke reasons.
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