Last Stand....

[SwisherSweet]

is absolutely not worth playing with random teammates. My account level is 25 and I have not placed in Top 1 a single time since my first hunter turned level 5. I barely can even make it past the first supply drop with 90% of these teammates. Idk what is going on with the balance, why it seems like people who don't understand the game are getting placed in level 20 arena's (myself included), but i'm honestly getting sick of how it feels. I don't want to meet some random person to queue a few times a day, I want matches to feel better balanced in terms of the skill level of teammates you're paired with/against. To add to this, every single match feels like i'm playing a ranked mode with sweats around every corner. Maybe add a ranked mode or something so some of these pre-made duo's have somewhere else to go?????

[Casper]

My hunters range from 7-14 and I win matches about as much as I would expect based on the player count in matches. If you are never winning matches AT ALL I would suggest analyzing your own tactics. You are 50% of your team after all.

[SwisherSweet]

all of my hunters are over level 10. it's not like i just don't understand how to play. it's not even a complicated game. but my teammates are dead weight 90% of the time against pre-made groups. Which is what it feels like im losing against.

[Casper]

Originally posted by SwisherSweet:

all of my hunters are over level 10. it's not like i just don't understand how to play. it's not even a complicated game. but my teammates are dead weight 90% of the time against pre-made groups. Which is what it feels like im losing against.

Yeah I do not have that experience and I am exclusively solo queuing. Sure I run into a idiot here and there, but I see those on the enemy teams just as much. The only way I can see someone completely bombing in this game like you are describing is if you are making demands of the other player, and then die and blame the other player for not following your commands. You gotta be willing to follow the other player's lead if they arent responding to your pings.

[SwisherSweet]

i'm not pinging unless its an upgrade mod. the matches are fairly linear in how they guide you to each objective, so the only thing to do is wipe out drones and stick with your teammate. flank when its warranted. im not sitting here making demands im literally just experiencing the game match to match. most of the time i dont make it past the first supply drop. if my skill is so bad that it means i cant place top 1 then i should just uninstall right??? because its clearly my fault my teams always lose.

[Third Sword Sage]

Now see, I can understand not getting top 1`s with randoms. you generally can lose outright if your random overextends and dies without leaving an enemy dead or at the brink vs coms. However if you struggling to win your raw bare minimum start fights you might want to work on some things. Support your teammate and make sure they dont get flanked. If they die you can just be rushed down so you have to play around them.

[Casper]

Originally posted by SwisherSweet:

i'm not pinging unless its an upgrade mod. the matches are fairly linear in how they guide you to each objective, so the only thing to do is wipe out drones and stick with your teammate. flank when its warranted. im not sitting here making demands im literally just experiencing the game match to match. most of the time i dont make it past the first supply drop. if my skill is so bad that it means i cant place top 1 then i should just uninstall right??? because its clearly my fault my teams always lose.

I didn't say that it was always your fault, but you are 50% of your team. When you lose a fight think about what you could have done better to improve in the future. If you are even an average skill player you should be clutching the occasional team fight even with 100% always terrible partners. You also need to be aware of how the other hunters play to make estimations on how they will behave in combat.

[Baphled]

The game isn't exactly balanced either. Once you hit around lvl 6, you get tossed into more arenas with a lvl range of 6-20; which is rough when you're under 10. The Hunter you play makes a big difference as well. Some hunters can carry, while others are going to struggle.

And then by the time you level up and improve your hunter more, you're going to be put into arenas where you're still near the bottom of the level range. But you'll occasionally get to be near the top of the level range too, just not as often.

Some ways to alleviate having a terrible ally is to have a friend play with you. If that's hard, you can always jump into their discord and try to find someone there. Then you can even jump into the voice chat with them for some better coordination.

Otherwise you will just need to get good at carrying the team, and don't worry about first place as much. The game isn't balanced and isn't intended to be. Characters can get stronger through progression outside the matches and through collecting energy and pickups inside the matches. It's rare to be in a situation where it's a balanced fight. Particularly when the RNG can give people a colossus or even hit lvl 3 before the first engagement if they find some good chests.

[Batslav]

The sad reality is that even the bots are better than most people. They at least move around when get shot. And in most cases will not die in less than 2 min after the start.

[jacopopa7]

Yeah last stand, for now is not worth the hassle. Go play vs AIs, the end match rewards are exactly the same amount and it takes half the time while you will also win every. single. game.

[TheCrossbill]

My top 1 winrate is probably 30-40%. But its worth to mention the hunter you playing. Usually i play Fenris. Even tho Fenris inferior to most of the hunters in my opinion. I just love mobile playstyle. If you want to win with highest chance pick Weaver, Razorside and Trench. Insane damage output and survivability.

[Menixm]

Devs have said that the winrate for hunters is fairly balanced, and as you keep playing, you sort of find that every hunter (even the ones that feel the strongest, like Weaver), have counters.

I would say that Fenris is the hardest hunter to play, though. He very much relies on perfect positioning, and his blink is a pretty long CD.