Similar experience to SWAT 4?

[Jade]

I've never played a Rainbow Six title or the like but loved SWAT 4 in the past for its co-op PvE experience. I only see reviews mentioning Rainbow Six and so, out of unfamiliarity with the gameplay, is this like SWAT 4 with co-operative PvE based missions? If not, is there any title like that out there at the moment?

I saw Ready or Not label itself as a spiritual successor to SWAT 4 but looks to be stuck in development hell (and facing criticism surrounding its development). I also saw Zero Hour, but it looks to be a PvP based title.

[Gonzo850]

Kinda similar. You can methodically clear a building or urban area with some friends like in SWAT. Run-n-gun is not encouraged.

But you are not arresting anybody in this game like in Swat4. Every target gets killed. There are no camera wands or non leathal weapons.

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Kisuno:

If not, is there any title like that out there at the moment?

Every month I search for games like these and still haven't found anything other than early access promises, dead projects or half baked mods Ground Branch, Ready or Not and Zero Hour is pretty much all we have to look forward to right now.

[Jade]

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

Originally posted by Kisuno:

If not, is there any title like that out there at the moment?

Every month I search for games like these and still haven't found anything other than early access promises, dead projects or half baked mods :sadelf: Ground Branch, Ready or Not and Zero Hour is pretty much all we have to look forward to right now.

Ah gotcha. :( Ah well, hoping something eventually comes out in SWAT 4's vein.

[zeMantras]

its a tactical game and a damm good one, and it will only improve, but no, cant say this is like swat4 at all. That said, i do still play swat4 on almost daily basis and its one of my fav games, but no, this is not at all the same experience. Zero Hour seems closer to it, alot closer, but cant say that much since I purchase it but barely tried it :P holding till its a bit more developed

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Kisuno:

Ah gotcha. :( Ah well, hoping something eventually comes out in SWAT 4's vein.

You are not alone bud. There are lots of us waiting around.
You should check out these games btw. They're not like Swat4 but worth checking out.

* Flashing Lights - Police, Firefighting, Emergency Services Simulator

* Police Simulator: Patrol Officers

[Pheex]

I've played both this game and Zero hour a bit and while I only have very little time in both games I think I can already draw some very early conclusions.

Zero Hour feels more like Swat 4. You shout at enemies to comply, arrest them, get penalized if you shoot surrendering or fleeing enemies. You pick up weapons from every neutralized enemy just like in Swat. You can repel and climb buildings, kick down doors, doors can have traps on them or be blocked with rng furniture changes or door stoppers. Enemies can have hostages. Missions are generally indoors in one single building and feel very Swat 4, it was a very very obvious inspiration. There are currently no non lethal weapons besides flashbangs. Weapons are all CQC at the moment and there are not too many, and the customization -while there is some- is very limited. All current maps are nighttime.

Ground Branch, so far, feels more like Rainbow Six 3 Ravenshield. You kill everything that moves. Locations are big and can be very open. The game also has sniper and marksman rifles to accompany this besides in general having a TON more weapons than ZH and they are much, much more customizable as well. Ground Branch has great mission customization too, you can change time of day for every map, you can set the numer of enemies and how dangerous they are in terrorist hunt, and you can customize your character with different clothes, camo and even faces.

Both games can be played coop or solo in pve. Ground Branch has more options to customize your experience and difficulty. Zero hour is just this is your mission deal with it, although enemy numbers, positions and inside furniture and traps are all rng. But difficulty and number of enemies is out of your control.

Both games are great and represent their pricetag in quality and quantity I think. Zero hour is really good. Ground Branch is really good and has a lot more substance.

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Kisuno:

I also saw Zero Hour, but it looks to be a PvP based title.

Yeah I remember when it made it's first appearance on Steam. Its been pvp focus from the start.

It needs an internet connection just to play solo. That says it all right there. Solo play is an afterthough. They're just throwing solo players a bone. The game is about pvp.

[ShinUon]

Agree with Pheex. Zero Hour is more like SWAT 4 (I only played it coop, though it had desync bugs).

Ground Branch is like a newer and better Rainbow Six Ravenshield.

[Gonzo850]

I think Kisuno knows Zero Hour is more like SWAT4. The question really was how similar was GroundBranch to SWAT4.

PS - Without referencing RainbowSix cause they have never played it.

[pugilist3]

Hope to see some Police mods for Ground Branch i the future!

[Liam Neeson]

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

Originally posted by Kisuno:

If not, is there any title like that out there at the moment?

Every month I search for games like these and still haven't found anything other than early access promises, dead projects or half baked mods :sadelf: Ground Branch, Ready or Not and Zero Hour is pretty much all we have to look forward to right now.

Ready or Not is dead lol. They've shadow pushed the game back so far and those who have had access to playing it, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trainwreck.

[Gonzo850]

Originally posted by Liam_Neeson:

They've shadow pushed the game back so far and those who have had access to playing it, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trainwreck.

I support the game and I'm not saying that. Im glad it got pushed back. I supported the move too. I like their updates and newsletters. I like how they're going about their game development right now. I like their new team.

I'm not saying it's a guaranteed success. I'm sure it will have flaws just like any other game. But it's still being developed. It's not dead. The Beta drama that people keep holding on to happened like a year ago now Its not the dramatic Titanic failure that raging impatient children and YouTube ragetards still make it out to be.

[I Have Coffee Poops]

Originally posted by Liam_Neeson:

Originally posted by Gonzo850:

Every month I search for games like these and still haven't found anything other than early access promises, dead projects or half baked mods :sadelf: Ground Branch, Ready or Not and Zero Hour is pretty much all we have to look forward to right now.

Ready or Not is dead lol. They've shadow pushed the game back so far and those who have had access to playing it, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trainwreck.

Game is far from dead. They recently signed up with a publisher and will be releasing the game into Early Access likely some point this year or early next.

[WhiteKnight77]

Originally posted by I Have Coffee Poops:

Originally posted by Liam_Neeson:

Ready or Not is dead lol. They've shadow pushed the game back so far and those who have had access to playing it, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trainwreck.

Game is far from dead. They recently signed up with a publisher and will be releasing the game into Early Access likely some point this year or early next.

The game is already in early access.

[mw00]

someone needs to remaster swat 4