GROUND BRANCH

GROUND BRANCH

JustRyan Dec 9, 2018 @ 8:57am
Questions About Game
So iv seen many videos and read many posts about this game.
And im definitly going to buy it at some point but i have some questions about the game.

1. Mission Editor:
Is there one? Id love to make some medium to long range missions

2. AI Team And Enemy AI:
Are there any friendly AI? If so can i order them around like in SWAT 4 or Rainbow Six 3?
Are the enemy AI decent or dumb?

3. PvP:
How slow and how "tactical" is the PvP? If its as fast as cod or csgo then no thanks

4. Performance:
How is it? Bcuz im playing Sandstorm and Squad and they both right like♥♥♥♥♥GTX 1050 2gb
i5-2400
10GB

5. Breaching:
Can i kick doors down? Can i blow them up? Or can i just open them? and of course can i throw flashbangs in?

6. Your Experience With Ground Branch:
What do you guys like about the game? and is it worth buy right now?
I like a lot of tactical games. I play ArmA 3, Squad (kinda) SWAT 4, Rainbow Six 3 and am looking for many tactical games.
Last edited by JustRyan; Dec 9, 2018 @ 9:02am
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KrisRedbeard  [developer] Dec 9, 2018 @ 9:10am 
1. Built in, no.
If you can create a level in UE4, you can port that over to GB easily.

2. No, but are planned.

3. Slow. Walking around in the open gets you killed.

4. I personally have a GTX 760 and get a decent (~60) framerate for the most part with medium details. Your mileage will vary depending on the settings you choose.
We're also going to keep working on improving the performance as we go.
You see that it mentioned in our changelists when we've made some tweaks or done a pass on a map to improve LOD's etc.

5. I'm biased - I'm making it :)
JustRyan Dec 9, 2018 @ 9:15am 
Originally posted by KrisRedbeard:
1. Built in, no.
If you can create a level in UE4, you can port that over to GB easily.

2. No, but are planned.

3. Slow. Walking around in the open gets you killed.

4. I personally have a GTX 760 and get a decent (~60) framerate for the most part with medium details. Your mileage will vary depending on the settings you choose.
We're also going to keep working on improving the performance as we go.
You see that it mentioned in our changelists when we've made some tweaks or done a pass on a map to improve LOD's etc.

5. I'm biased - I'm making it :)
Thanks for replying :D
Question about the mission editor. Will you guys be making a built in mission editor?
Really happy to read that you will be planning to add friendly AI :D
Eleazar Dec 9, 2018 @ 10:14am 
If you're looking tactical, you should pull the trigger on purchasing this game. I have found my gameplay has improved since playing Ground Branch when going back to other games... as the developer rightly stated, and I'll paraphrase the developer by saying, 'geometry is an infrantryman's best friend'.. aka, the open ground, is well, open.
JustRyan Dec 9, 2018 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by Eleazar:
If you're looking tactical, you should pull the trigger on purchasing this game. I have found my gameplay has improved since playing Ground Branch when going back to other games... as the developer rightly stated, and I'll paraphrase the developer by saying, 'geometry is an infrantryman's best friend'.. aka, the open ground, is well, open.
I keep calling this game a "Breaching Simulator" because it looks like that to me. And i simple love that about the game :D
Im definitly going to be buying the game!
Eleazar Dec 9, 2018 @ 1:43pm 
See you in battle :)
Last edited by Eleazar; Dec 9, 2018 @ 1:44pm
Teddy Dec 9, 2018 @ 2:54pm 
The Part with the Editor would be the most important. xD
ATM the maps are not that great and we need more (realistic) for sure.
Like:
Shopping Mall
Bank
Waco´s Branch Davidians
Apartment Complex
Golf Club

AI is meeh:
On the Tanker they get stuck at front and pile up, Hardcoded path, not reacting to sound.

Some Kiddys will ruin PvP by hopping around and trolling if it comes.

Just tested it at the 1023 build and its worth the 17€ BUT its kind of outdated

I would wait for the PvP mode to replace the "stupid" AI with more tactical (holding angles, random roaming) Terrorists. and some better maps.
Would also be a great feature if you could point at things or mark a path on a map.
KrisRedbeard  [developer] Dec 10, 2018 @ 4:38am 
We'd like that too (ability to draw on map).
Permafrost Dec 10, 2018 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by KrisRedbeard:
We'd like that too (ability to draw on map).
inb4 male reproductive organs everywhere during briefing.
Last edited by Permafrost; Dec 10, 2018 @ 10:40am
WhiteKnight77 Dec 10, 2018 @ 1:15pm 
Originally posted by Permafrost:
Originally posted by KrisRedbeard:
We'd like that too (ability to draw on map).
inb4 male reproductive organs everywhere during briefing.
Too late. Such has been discussed already.
Master Baiter Dec 11, 2018 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by TeddyInACasket:
The Part with the Editor would be the most important. xD
ATM the maps are not that great and we need more (realistic) for sure.
Like:
Shopping Mall
Bank
Waco´s Branch Davidians
Apartment Complex
Golf Club

AI is meeh:
On the Tanker they get stuck at front and pile up, Hardcoded path, not reacting to sound.

Some Kiddys will ruin PvP by hopping around and trolling if it comes.

Just tested it at the 1023 build and its worth the 17€ BUT its kind of outdated

I would wait for the PvP mode to replace the "stupid" AI with more tactical (holding angles, random roaming) Terrorists. and some better maps.
Would also be a great feature if you could point at things or mark a path on a map.


You know that this game isnt Anti terrorism ?

These maps will be fun to play.
But official maps have a different setting.
Teddy Dec 11, 2018 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by Master Baiter:


You know that this game isnt Anti terrorism ?

These maps will be fun to play.
But official maps have a different setting.

Oh Waco was terrorism?
Bankrobberys are terrorism?
A mentaly ill person on a killing spree in a Mall is terrorism?
Taking rich for ransom is terrorism?
Crooks are terrorists?

Kind of but not really.
Terrorism is used mostly to achieve a religious or political aim.
A Swat Teams purpose is fighting CRIME in a advanced way, given in name Special Weapons And Tactics!

You can also take tis game to the bad side, being a terrorist, a mercenary or just the opponent.


You can take every current scenario. I like the training grounds, the back of the Tanker and most players like Small town.
WhiteKnight77 Dec 11, 2018 @ 5:22pm 
One needs to remember what the CIA's Special Activities Division is all about. This includes Air Branch, Maritime Branch and Ground Branch. They carry out operations in other countries that would be considered deniable ops. Most of the time, the ops are mundane, but can include actual combat.

Want to learn about some of what they do, grab Gary Berntsen's book, Jawbreaker: The Attack on Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda: A Personal Account by the CIA's Key Field Commander. A GB operative was killed in Afghanistan, Mike Spaan. He is the only operative known to have actually worked for the CIA and is mentioned in the book. It is a good read.
Sterling Archer Dec 11, 2018 @ 5:38pm 
Originally posted by WhiteKnight77:
One needs to remember what the CIA's Special Activities Division is all about. This includes Air Branch, Maritime Branch and Ground Branch. They carry out operations in other countries that would be considered deniable ops. Most of the time, the ops are mundane, but can include actual combat.

Want to learn about some of what they do, grab Gary Berntsen's book, Jawbreaker: The Attack on Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda: A Personal Account by the CIA's Key Field Commander. A GB operative was killed in Afghanistan, Mike Spaan. He is the only operative known to have actually worked for the CIA and is mentioned in the book. It is a good read.


this...

i get the impression, alot of people are just repeating stuff they see and what they like in other games, and want to see it in this, without realising what this or the organisation involved is about. and also if thats the case, then just play those games.

Originally posted by Master Baiter:
You know that this game isnt Anti terrorism ?

yes it is.

Originally posted by TeddyInACasket:
Oh Waco was terrorism?
Bankrobberys are terrorism?
A mentaly ill person on a killing spree in a Mall is terrorism?
Taking rich for ransom is terrorism?
Crooks are terrorists?

yes and no, but the main thing is,

Waco was handled by FBI+ATF, and neither that, or any of the other instances would be or are something Ground branch would do or be a part of in the resolvement phase.

yes, great maps and scenarios, but not for here, and are already in other games, like CS,
R6 Siege (oregon map obviously influenced by the branch davidians and the waco siege), etc

also, Terrorism is not just about religion.ok, so it is about that sometimes, but terrorism is, in the broadest sense, the use of intentionally indiscriminate violence as a means to create terror among masses of people (exact wording from internet for eloquance and correctness)

and we arent talking about a swat team here, this is not a law enforcement game, its about a military branch of a us Govt department, its about the Ground branch of the CIA SAD. a tier 1 special operations force, built from mainly CAG, DEVGRU (or task force green/task force blue or Delta/ST6 as you prefer) SF/Green berets etc etc clear military assets

they carry out covert direct action, they sometimes carry out some roles similar to the green berets as force multipliers, they helped build the Afghan counter terror pursuit teams, they have carried out covert, sometimes deniable action in pakistan, afghan, syria...all the hot spots. HVT missions, sometimes just as advisor roles, this game revolves around the Military direct action elements basically. so, nothing like anything youd see in alot of detail in the news, absolutely nothing like the scenarios previously mentioned.

but they are not a law enforcment agency, we need to be careful not to try and stray into this area, going on about swat missions/equipment and what wed like to see, and shields and literally stuff and things these guys would never do or carry.

like i say, just because youve seen it in a game you like, dont try and add it here. its completely out of context.

there are plenty of games with all that crap in. christ where do we draw the line? next we'll be talking about wanting killstreaks and regenerating health......(although, on reflection, SAD do use drones/airstrikes etc so perhaps some missions with laser designators in..? drone strikes..? who knows)

im ex Brit military, so im passionate about and fully behind this 100%, its going to be something ive been after in a game for a long time i think, and i will be very upset if its going to be led off course by people purely because it does something / is something different that they want to change to the same rubbish in all the other "tactical shooters" out there. Siege for instance, is fast becoming a joke, with a really poor choice in the direction of their operators and equipment, and it has now become a far far cry from the original novels vision and the immediate rainbow games thereafter, i can tell you now, you would never see one of the Reg boys go anywhere near the sa80 family of rifles, they also certainly wouldnt wear their military medal flash on their CRW kit, navy seals (even though Blackbeard is clearly a DEVGRU operator and not a seal, and yes, they are different, i also know you have to be one before you can become another) have never had a women in there, and nano machines......? a toxic and angry female MET officer with an electro shield....? please.....

different is a good thing sometimes. bit sick of all the CS GO clones that have and do exactly the same thing and pretend to be Highly tactical, but arent really anything near the real term.

Rant over, and as its christmas please add:

desert tiger stripe, certainly some more cam, like aor 1 and 2 or and maybe some TAD gear or more crye or somesuch (i guess licensing is an issue, as with the eotech sights and "baur" pistol)

the option to have a body armour/chest rig combo or seperates, like armour and rigs etc rather than just modular pouches attached to a carrier or vest (think mayflower and the like) cosmetic, but realistic to "the look"

padded waist belts, and more London bridge kit, their stuff is great.

white/red phos smoke

underbarrel launchers, in fact, definitely more attachments all round, maybe different weapon parts from stock, like SOCOM butts, keymod rails and stuff (Knights, daniel defence).....again, cosmetic i know, but still gucci and helping with the overall look of being an operator. perhaps not necessarily to the insane level of tarkov, bu tto be honest they have some gear in that ive never even heard of or seen, it is good gun pr0n though.....

id also like different weapon carry options, for instance i personally dont like the drop leg holster, id prefer a waist kit belt or even an option to have it on the armour/chest rig. perhaps a snub shottie slung on the back for breaching doors? (if that mechanic was to be added) im liking the mag dump pouch though...nice touch

i also certainly hope theres some "iraqi" "pakistan" "afghanistan" and "syria" maps in the works, or at least a generic arid "syrirakistani" type place.....



EDIT:

to make it clear, im really into this game, i think the devs have started down the right road, and i think they have the vision and the knowledge to make this the game it should be. it wont be triple A of course, and it will probably only ever have a niche following (if it stays on course) but hey, battlefield v sales were down 63% from last title, and i cant think of a bigger Triple A company and title than that right now. i also cant think of a bigger turd and flop......
Last edited by Sterling Archer; Dec 12, 2018 @ 7:39pm
Omen Dec 12, 2018 @ 12:47pm 
Falster194 I whole heartily agree with everything you just said, also If your looking for someone reliable to play this game with add me.
Sterling Archer Dec 12, 2018 @ 4:07pm 
Originally posted by Omen:
Falster194 I whole heartily agree with everything you just said, also If your looking for someone reliable to play this game with add me.

cheers bud, appreciate it. will do
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