i don't understand something...help?

[Bastion Aralus]

i'm dumb and i can't find solid info on this
what does "kernel level Anti-cheat" mean? does it mean i'll get nuked for having fun mods for other games on my pc? like for example the dmc5 mod manager

[UkiOhRah]

good question... i want to mod too, someone with knowledge answer this man please

[Shirakani]

They're using EAC, Easy Anti Cheat, the most worthless thing to ever exist and can be gutted within seconds.

[Sm:(e]

If something is Kernel level, it means it has access to the deeper workings of your PC.
And some of them run while you are not even playing games, and have the potential to scan every program and application you ever run, although EAC doesn't do this as far as I know.
There have been controversies in the past with some anti cheats scanning unrelated files and banning players that use simple conveniences like crosshair mods. Sometimes even using programs like Wallpaper Engine will cause issues.

[Ü]

Originally posted by Sm:(e:

If something is Kernel level, it means it has access to the deeper workings of your PC.
And some of them run while you are not even playing games, and have the potential to scan every program and application you ever run, although EAC doesn't do this as far as I know.
There have been controversies in the past with some anti cheats scanning unrelated files and banning players that use simple conveniences like crosshair mods. Sometimes even using programs like Wallpaper Engine will cause issues.

I want to add for anyone reading this:
A lot of anti cheat systems use kernel level access, kernel level access is the highest access a program can have. This raises suspicion and is a valid concern, since even with that level of access people still find ways to cheat/hack. That being said, a lot of anti cheats use kernel level, such as

• Riot Vanguard
  
• BattlEye
  
• Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC)
  
• RICOCHET Anti-Cheat
  
• EA AntiCheat (EAAC)

and many more. If you're concerned about your privacy and data, the only way to avoid this is to not play any of the games using these anti cheats. Or have a PC solely dedicated to playing games without any sensitive data saved on it.

[AnjaKnight]

Originally posted by Ü:

Originally posted by Sm:(e:

If something is Kernel level, it means it has access to the deeper workings of your PC.
And some of them run while you are not even playing games, and have the potential to scan every program and application you ever run, although EAC doesn't do this as far as I know.
There have been controversies in the past with some anti cheats scanning unrelated files and banning players that use simple conveniences like crosshair mods. Sometimes even using programs like Wallpaper Engine will cause issues.

I want to add for anyone reading this:
A lot of anti cheat systems use kernel level access, kernel level access is the highest access a program can have. This raises suspicion and is a valid concern, since even with that level of access people still find ways to cheat/hack. That being said, a lot of anti cheats use kernel level, such as

• Riot Vanguard
  
• BattlEye
  
• Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC)
  
• RICOCHET Anti-Cheat
  
• EA AntiCheat (EAAC)

and many more. If you're concerned about your privacy and data, the only way to avoid this is to not play any of the games using these anti cheats. Or have a PC solely dedicated to playing games without any sensitive data saved on it.

Or be a particularly clever Linux User.

Or have a separate machine for gaming.

[Bastion Aralus]

Originally posted by Sm:(e:

If something is Kernel level, it means it has access to the deeper workings of your PC.
And some of them run while you are not even playing games, and have the potential to scan every program and application you ever run, although EAC doesn't do this as far as I know.
There have been controversies in the past with some anti cheats scanning unrelated files and banning players that use simple conveniences like crosshair mods. Sometimes even using programs like Wallpaper Engine will cause issues.

Jesus Christ

[Bastion Aralus]

Originally posted by Ü:

Originally posted by Sm:(e:

If something is Kernel level, it means it has access to the deeper workings of your PC.
And some of them run while you are not even playing games, and have the potential to scan every program and application you ever run, although EAC doesn't do this as far as I know.
There have been controversies in the past with some anti cheats scanning unrelated files and banning players that use simple conveniences like crosshair mods. Sometimes even using programs like Wallpaper Engine will cause issues.

I want to add for anyone reading this:
A lot of anti cheat systems use kernel level access, kernel level access is the highest access a program can have. This raises suspicion and is a valid concern, since even with that level of access people still find ways to cheat/hack. That being said, a lot of anti cheats use kernel level, such as

• Riot Vanguard
  
• BattlEye
  
• Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC)
  
• RICOCHET Anti-Cheat
  
• EA AntiCheat (EAAC)

and many more. If you're concerned about your privacy and data, the only way to avoid this is to not play any of the games using these anti cheats. Or have a PC solely dedicated to playing games without any sensitive data saved on it.

I do have a second PC, but I've got mods installed on some games solely for fun, like silly costumes for Naruto games and DMCV

I did also have to install a mod to fix a really bad bug in metal gear solid 2 once too

[Bastion Aralus]

Originally posted by GetsugaTensho:

good question... i want to mod too, someone with knowledge answer this man please

Let us seek knowledge together, User Getsugatensho with Ulquiorra as icon
:3

[LouisKM124]

I heard that there is a common method to bypass eac easily.

[Bastion Aralus]

Originally posted by LouisKM124:

I heard that there is a common method to bypass eac easily.

First, love the icon you have

Second, unsure if it'd help with "kernel level"?

[LouisKM124]

Originally posted by Bastion Aralus:

Originally posted by LouisKM124:

I heard that there is a common method to bypass eac easily.

First, love the icon you have

Second, unsure if it'd help with "kernel level"?

Idk. It's the first time I play games with eac. I am going to see if I can bypass it someway. If I can't, I may have to ask for a refund within two hours playtime.

[helix]

Originally posted by LouisKM124:

I heard that there is a common method to bypass eac easily.

That common method only works with user-mode EAC. If its the kernel-mode EAC then what you're talking about isn't going to work.

[Over Heaven]

It's EAC it's like a mall cop, nothing to worry

[Bastion Aralus]

Again, not looking to cheat
Just fun mods

[Hema]

if allowing mods allows cheaters, i prefer to stay modless tbh.

if it's possible to mod offline only and play online modless that would be best ofc.