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Mistie Oct 3, 2024 @ 6:27am
Don't understand Satanael's one trait.
Satanael has one trait called "Pagan Allure" which increase magic attacks by 50%. But it saids "Cannot exceed 2x attack limit". What it's supposed to mean?

I create some personas with this trait and add some passive skill like +25%, +50% buff to element skill, does this passive skills stucks with Satanael's trait?

Example: Metatron with this trait, strongest psy skills, 25+ and 50+ psy damage boost, and 25+ magic skills boost.
Last edited by Mistie; Oct 3, 2024 @ 6:29am
Originally posted by Puzzlemint:
___ Boost (+25%), ___ Amp (+50%), Magic Ability (+25%), and Pagan Allure (+50%) all stack, additively, but only to a maximum of +100%.

So, if you already have ___ Boost, ___ Amp, and Magic Ability, that adds up to +100%, and you get no further benefit from Pagan Allure.

Mighty Gaze and Intense Focus (both +20%) are calculated separately, and will stack with the above, which generally makes them preferable to Pagan Allure.
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Puzzlemint Oct 3, 2024 @ 10:51am 
___ Boost (+25%), ___ Amp (+50%), Magic Ability (+25%), and Pagan Allure (+50%) all stack, additively, but only to a maximum of +100%.

So, if you already have ___ Boost, ___ Amp, and Magic Ability, that adds up to +100%, and you get no further benefit from Pagan Allure.

Mighty Gaze and Intense Focus (both +20%) are calculated separately, and will stack with the above, which generally makes them preferable to Pagan Allure.
Mistie Oct 3, 2024 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Puzzlemint:
___ Boost (+25%), ___ Amp (+50%), Magic Ability (+25%), and Pagan Allure (+50%) all stack, additively, but only to a maximum of +100%.

So, if you already have ___ Boost, ___ Amp, and Magic Ability, that adds up to +100%, and you get no further benefit from Pagan Allure.

Mighty Gaze and Intense Focus (both +20%) are calculated separately, and will stack with the above, which generally makes them preferable to Pagan Allure.
So it's mean i can get rid of it 25+ boost and 25 magic boost? Well at least i will have free slots for other skills. Thanks by the way.

But damage from Will of the Sword(triple charge/concentrate) are counted separately? That is, he can be combined with other 100% passive skills?

Example: I already have Alice with "Will of the sword" and 50+, 25+ almight damage, and 25+ magic damage. = Alice triple concentrate+100% almighy damage?
Last edited by Mistie; Oct 3, 2024 @ 11:30am
Puzzlemint Oct 3, 2024 @ 12:32pm 
Yes, it also stacks with Will of the Sword, however it's important to note that Will of the Sword's description is mistranslated; it doesn't triple the bonus from charge (damage x 2.5 x 3), it changes the bonus from charge to triple (damage x 3).

Going from a 2.5x bonus to a 3x bonus maths out to only a 20% increase (40 x 2.5 = 100, 40 x 3 = 120), which leaves you with the same overall damage as Mighty Gaze/Intense Focus, but only on charged attacks, whereas Mighty Gaze/Intense Focus applies to both charged and non-charged damage, once again making them generally preferable on a magic-focused Persona.

That said, Will of the Sword also has a bug that gives you Auto-Concentrate, so it has niche value on a starter.
Mistie Oct 3, 2024 @ 10:04pm 
Originally posted by Puzzlemint:
Yes, it also stacks with Will of the Sword, however it's important to note that Will of the Sword's description is mistranslated; it doesn't triple the bonus from charge (damage x 2.5 x 3), it changes the bonus from charge to triple (damage x 3).

Going from a 2.5x bonus to a 3x bonus maths out to only a 20% increase (40 x 2.5 = 100, 40 x 3 = 120), which leaves you with the same overall damage as Mighty Gaze/Intense Focus, but only on charged attacks, whereas Mighty Gaze/Intense Focus applies to both charged and non-charged damage, once again making them generally preferable on a magic-focused Persona.

That said, Will of the Sword also has a bug that gives you Auto-Concentrate, so it has niche value on a starter.
Good.
Arifufu Oct 3, 2024 @ 10:46pm 
since you already understand basic stacking:
- pagan allure best combined with magic ability, you can transfer this to your any magic persona

- i have Satanael with Ailment Hunter, Amp, Boost, and Tyrant's Mind but i can only get highest damage boost against foes with ailment.
Most people use Will of the Sword for Satanael, but why most people can't see Satanael do not weilding a sword? He is carry a big gun not a big sword, smh and 20% damage increase from Will of the Sword is worse than Tyrant's mind so my fav trait for satanael is Ailment Hunter

- Will of the Sword is good for any starter persona, to take advantage its auto-concentrate, and remember dekaja can't remove auto-concentrate effect just like Rebellion or Revolution
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