What The.......Heck..... Is with this Okamura fight?

[FearlessJDK]

I have gone so far as to lower the difficulty to 'easy' and I'm still getting pummelled. The game has been a cakewalk up until now. Most of my party are 40-43. I've got a variety of Personas on Joker so I can hit most weaknesses. Everyone has the current level/palace available gear.

So I'm a bit frustrated. I've spent a lot of time on the fight and I get wiped on either the second last wave (the ones vulnerable to wind) or the final (I assume) wave.

[Xddc]

Originally posted by Mistie:

Yeah Okumura broken as hell it's took me like 6 hours(8-10)tries to defeat him. Really stupidish rule.

Haru's grenade launcher selection actually made short work for him on my run...

Then again I'm a casual sh'tter who uses SAFE mode to farm the reaper for max levelling...

[Kochta]

Originally posted by Mistie:

Originally posted by Kochta:

Congratulations, you are hardcore visual novel player, a title worthy of massive recognition.

Are you deliberately making a fool of yourself? As if palaces, battles and Okumura who humiliated you are not part of the gameplay for you? You are forced to spend 1-4 hours going through palaces where you are required to take actions to advance the story. Yes, Persona is mostly dialogues. But the place where your skills and knowledge of the game are tested it's Palaces. It's just that, unlike you, yes, I am a hardcore player and I went through Okumura on my own, without resorting to the easy way that you chose, that's the difference between us. And the concept of Hardcore in Persona is assessed in battles, and not in the visual component of the game. It's just that if Persona were so easy to complete, you wouldn't give up on Okumura and wouldn't use DLC Personas to complete him.

Just don't leave your stupid advice on how to win boss with pay to win systems, not everyone is a casual like you to choose the easy way. Real gamers are those who love challenges and hard bosses. If you can't see that, then why are you even play games?

Didn't ever read that lol, dude stop sperging out over visual novel and farming clownpoints.

[Mistie]

Originally posted by Kochta:

Originally posted by Mistie:

Are you deliberately making a fool of yourself? As if palaces, battles and Okumura who humiliated you are not part of the gameplay for you? You are forced to spend 1-4 hours going through palaces where you are required to take actions to advance the story. Yes, Persona is mostly dialogues. But the place where your skills and knowledge of the game are tested it's Palaces. It's just that, unlike you, yes, I am a hardcore player and I went through Okumura on my own, without resorting to the easy way that you chose, that's the difference between us. And the concept of Hardcore in Persona is assessed in battles, and not in the visual component of the game. It's just that if Persona were so easy to complete, you wouldn't give up on Okumura and wouldn't use DLC Personas to complete him.

Just don't leave your stupid advice on how to win boss with pay to win systems, not everyone is a casual like you to choose the easy way. Real gamers are those who love challenges and hard bosses. If you can't see that, then why are you even play games?

Didn't ever read that lol, dude stop sperging out over visual novel and farming clownpoints.

Sigh...

[Mistie]

Originally posted by sggaghghwaghwghwgh:

Originally posted by Mistie:

Yeah Okumura broken as hell it's took me like 6 hours(8-10)tries to defeat him. Really stupidish rule.

Haru's grenade launcher selection actually made short work for him on my run...

Then again I'm a casual sh'tter who uses SAFE mode to farm the reaper for max levelling...

Yes you are :) your choice by the way, i hate grind too.

[Nine Breaker]

Originally posted by Kochta:

Originally posted by Mistie:

Are you deliberately making a fool of yourself? As if palaces, battles and Okumura who humiliated you are not part of the gameplay for you? You are forced to spend 1-4 hours going through palaces where you are required to take actions to advance the story. Yes, Persona is mostly dialogues. But the place where your skills and knowledge of the game are tested it's Palaces. It's just that, unlike you, yes, I am a hardcore player and I went through Okumura on my own, without resorting to the easy way that you chose, that's the difference between us. And the concept of Hardcore in Persona is assessed in battles, and not in the visual component of the game. It's just that if Persona were so easy to complete, you wouldn't give up on Okumura and wouldn't use DLC Personas to complete him.

Just don't leave your stupid advice on how to win boss with pay to win systems, not everyone is a casual like you to choose the easy way. Real gamers are those who love challenges and hard bosses. If you can't see that, then why are you even play games?

Didn't ever read that lol, dude stop sperging out over visual novel and farming clownpoints.

Bro you literally argued with a dude who UNIRONICALlY used terms "real gamers" (lol) and "hardcore player" while referring to a SINGLE PLAYER GAME where you only "challenged" by CPU, especially in this fight which is just badly designed and should be cheesed anyway.

I urge you, to never give such people your attention ever again.

[Kochta]

Originally posted by Nine Breaker:

Originally posted by Kochta:

Didn't ever read that lol, dude stop sperging out over visual novel and farming clownpoints.

Bro you literally argued with a dude who UNIRONICALlY used terms "real gamers" (lol) and "hardcore player" while referring to a SINGLE PLAYER GAME where you only "challenged" by CPU, especially in this fight which is just badly designed and should be cheesed anyway.

I urge you, to never give such people your attention ever again.

Awww, give a real-life Shinya a little attention, he must be lonely.

[Mistie]

Originally posted by Nine Breaker:

Originally posted by Kochta:

Didn't ever read that lol, dude stop sperging out over visual novel and farming clownpoints.

Bro you literally argued with a dude who UNIRONICALlY used terms "real gamers" (lol) and "hardcore player" while referring to a SINGLE PLAYER GAME where you only "challenged" by CPU, especially in this fight which is just badly designed and should be cheesed anyway.

I urge you, to never give such people your attention ever again.

Dude i don't see a point playing this game when where you can buy strongest persona thats is lvl 90 for 0 money in this game. Which have strongest ability to kill every enemy and even bosses in 1 shot. If you play like this you don't even need teammates to play with team. Point of the game just gone, where you need to make more friends and bonds to get stronger little by little, leveling up e.t.c

All of this ruined by DLC, because ATLUS is greedy and making op Personas that you can buy for 5$

If they leave they're stupid advices how it's cool to take OP personas and let you win bosses, and thinks it's normal, it's completly wrong espically if it's your first playtrough. Even it's single player it's mean you should buy all free op personas and saying it's a gameplay? This be even more funny if people creating content and saying look how i beat bosses i'm so cool i one shot bosses, because i have personas that's level 90, but i'm still level 30. Only because game give this choice it's not mean you should. Okay maybe if you playing NG+ and further, but not first playtrough.

[Mistie]

Originally posted by Kochta:

Originally posted by Nine Breaker:

Bro you literally argued with a dude who UNIRONICALlY used terms "real gamers" (lol) and "hardcore player" while referring to a SINGLE PLAYER GAME where you only "challenged" by CPU, especially in this fight which is just badly designed and should be cheesed anyway.

I urge you, to never give such people your attention ever again.

Awww, give a real-life Shinya a little attention, he must be lonely.

At least Shinya is a good boy and play fair even if he lose. Losing to a cheater but still beat him in the last. If i'm Sninya you are an that adult in Mementos who use cheats and think he is the most strongest player in the world. But gonna cry if someone gets around his cheats. It's not surprising, because you couldn't even beat Okumura with the fair way, ya filthy casual ho-ho-ho. You know what i'm so sorry for you if you suck that much that you can't even beat boss in how you say "Visual Novel where you don't need skill or attention to play" without using OP Personas. I wouldn't be more surprised even if you played on the easiest difficulty and still couldn't beat him, how bad in games you can be, mate?

[Kochta]

Originally posted by Mistie:

Originally posted by Kochta:

Awww, give a real-life Shinya a little attention, he must be lonely.

At least Shinya is a good boy and play fair even if he lose. Losing to a cheater but still beat him in the last. If i'm Sninya you are an that adult in Mementos who use cheats and think he is the most strongest player in the world. But gonna cry if someone gets around his cheats. It's not surprising, because you couldn't even beat Okumura with the fair way, ya filthy casual ho-ho-ho. You know what i'm so sorry for you if you suck that much that you can't even beat boss in how you say "Visual Novel where you don't need skill or attention to play" without using OP Personas. I wouldn't be more surprised even if you played on the easiest difficulty and still couldn't beat him, how bad in games you can be, mate?

Come on Shinya-kun, your autism is out of control again. Anyway if I'd have to compare myself to some P5 character it would be probably be Ohya but with a dong instead of pus. Damn I wouldn't mind a drink right now, too bad you're not old enough to drink.

[causality]

Originally posted by Kochta:

Originally posted by Mistie:

At least Shinya is a good boy and play fair even if he lose. Losing to a cheater but still beat him in the last. If i'm Sninya you are an that adult in Mementos who use cheats and think he is the most strongest player in the world. But gonna cry if someone gets around his cheats. It's not surprising, because you couldn't even beat Okumura with the fair way, ya filthy casual ho-ho-ho. You know what i'm so sorry for you if you suck that much that you can't even beat boss in how you say "Visual Novel where you don't need skill or attention to play" without using OP Personas. I wouldn't be more surprised even if you played on the easiest difficulty and still couldn't beat him, how bad in games you can be, mate?

Come on Shinya-kun, your autism is out of control again. Anyway if I'd have to compare myself to some P5 character it would be probably be Ohya but with a dong instead of pus. Damn I wouldn't mind a drink right now, too bad you're not old enough to drink.

What the heck am I reading.

[Mistie]

Originally posted by Kochta:

Originally posted by Mistie:

At least Shinya is a good boy and play fair even if he lose. Losing to a cheater but still beat him in the last. If i'm Sninya you are an that adult in Mementos who use cheats and think he is the most strongest player in the world. But gonna cry if someone gets around his cheats. It's not surprising, because you couldn't even beat Okumura with the fair way, ya filthy casual ho-ho-ho. You know what i'm so sorry for you if you suck that much that you can't even beat boss in how you say "Visual Novel where you don't need skill or attention to play" without using OP Personas. I wouldn't be more surprised even if you played on the easiest difficulty and still couldn't beat him, how bad in games you can be, mate?

Come on Shinya-kun, your autism is out of control again. Anyway if I'd have to compare myself to some P5 character it would be probably be Ohya but with a dong instead of pus. Damn I wouldn't mind a drink right now, too bad you're not old enough to drink.

An adult who thinks that drinking is the pride of life, a great achievement in life, spending money on booze to forget your problems in life, hoping that it will help you sleep at night. And waking up in the morning realizing that your problems in life have not gone away.

And do you really think that if you are 40 years old and can drink and smoke until you get lung cancer - that is an achievement? Well, if I am a 14 year old child, I will at least live a good life that will not end at 45 because I do not drink and do not smoke. He decided to talk about age here to show his dominance, as if I or other people care that you are a 40 year old impotent man. Who drinks and plays games to escape from the lousy reality and the lousy life you brought yourself to.

You know what maybe on start i might be aggresive to you but we have finished our dialogue. But if you want to continue talk sh** i'm always free to talk sh** with you.

[Mistie]

Originally posted by causality:

Originally posted by Kochta:

Come on Shinya-kun, your autism is out of control again. Anyway if I'd have to compare myself to some P5 character it would be probably be Ohya but with a dong instead of pus. Damn I wouldn't mind a drink right now, too bad you're not old enough to drink.

What the heck am I reading.

I don't think he even got the point of Shinya's social link, where a good boy makes friends, grows up, and overcomes himself. To him, it's all "Autism", boy with autism great logic. A guy who thinks he's sooooo mature to call all kids autistic.

[Nine Breaker]

Originally posted by Mistie:

Originally posted by Nine Breaker:

Bro you literally argued with a dude who UNIRONICALlY used terms "real gamers" (lol) and "hardcore player" while referring to a SINGLE PLAYER GAME where you only "challenged" by CPU, especially in this fight which is just badly designed and should be cheesed anyway.

I urge you, to never give such people your attention ever again.

Dude i don't see a point playing this game when where you can buy strongest persona thats is lvl 90 for 0 money in this game. Which have strongest ability to kill every enemy and even bosses in 1 shot. If you play like this you don't even need teammates to play with team. Point of the game just gone, where you need to make more friends and bonds to get stronger little by little, leveling up e.t.c

All of this ruined by DLC, because ATLUS is greedy and making op Personas that you can buy for 5$

If they leave they're stupid advices how it's cool to take OP personas and let you win bosses, and thinks it's normal, it's completly wrong espically if it's your first playtrough. Even it's single player it's mean you should buy all free op personas and saying it's a gameplay? This be even more funny if people creating content and saying look how i beat bosses i'm so cool i one shot bosses, because i have personas that's level 90, but i'm still level 30. Only because game give this choice it's not mean you should. Okay maybe if you playing NG+ and further, but not first playtrough.

>devs give you option
>player use option that already in game
>muh u playn' my vidya game wrong

Maybe just maybe, you should stop being butthurted about what other people doing in their free time with tools given to them by developers themselves. And yes, persona 5 (and even 4 and 3) is glorified VNs. Play SMT if you want real challenge. You also probably should try to understand the fact that A LOT of people play Persona games not for a combat (which is mediocre at best) but for a story, characters etc.

Oh and ye, what is the point of the game for Diablo players, when they reach top end gear but keep pushing dungeons or Great Portals ? Maybe, again, just maybe gameplay is not restricted to your concept of "challenge" or "difficulty" which is still irrelevant terms for a single player game anyway.

And I love that you think that cheesing a badly disgned boss by OP tool left by devs is somehow "ruins gameplay" and makes all your social stats pointless (you can just delete 90 lvl persona after). This is not Nioh, this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Persona, casual SMT spinoff.

[causality]

Originally posted by Nine Breaker:

Play SMT if you want real challenge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IllmwbpdGkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEvDkh5YNGQ
Thank you Shin Megami Tensei: No turn.

[Nine Breaker]

Originally posted by causality:

Originally posted by Nine Breaker:

Play SMT if you want real challenge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IllmwbpdGkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEvDkh5YNGQ
Thank you Shin Megami Tensei: No turn.

never had a situations like this in P5 btw, huh.