what is up with archangel?

[redfireman]

>encounter him
>takes the first move
>one shots your entire party
>lose half an hour of progress
what were they they thinking?
(playing on hard difficulty)

[RezetteBombe]

Yeah always exploit weaknesses. Also, regarding sleep and other status here a useful strategy: if possible, affect an enemy with sleep, forget or others status when the next turn is up to him. He will for sure lose the next turn and you will land a technical attack

[Emerald Lance]

I didn't think to mention that, but yeah, the game will wipe the floor with you if you aren't abusing weaknesses. Just keep throwing different elements out until you find ome that staggers them. Hitting weaknesses givea you an extra turn, and if you can chain those turns to knock every enemy down, you get an all-out-attack.

Always aim for an all-out-attack if you're able, it's free and huge damage.

[redfireman]

thanks to everyone's suggestions, i managed to clear the first palace! also learned some useful info that i wouldn't have known otherwise.

thank you all.

[Dai]

Best of luck to you in future palaces. If you did pick up the DLC items then this tip may help you with SP in early palaces is to equip the Camera Strap accessory on your party members so when you ambush enemies you can regen HP & SP. You will want to change accessories before fighting any minibosses or the palace boss.

[redfireman]

Publicado originalmente por Dai:

Best of luck to you in future palaces. If you did pick up the DLC items then this tip may help you with SP in early palaces is to equip the Camera Strap accessory on your party members so when you ambush enemies you can regen HP & SP. You will want to change accessories before fighting any minibosses or the palace boss.

thanks for the tip! but as good as that sounds i don't wanna be too op in early game lol

[Arifufu]

pick hard mode but complain getting one shot smh, at least if it is your first playthrough pick normal diff. Also in first turn u can use auto-makaja or auto-kaja skill persona, there's no way a mini boss / boss can one shot u if u use auto skill persona in your first turn, at least just in case to protecc Joker, or using endure / enduring soul persona is a life safer.

[redfireman]

Publicado originalmente por Arifufu:

pick hard mode but complain getting one shot smh, at least if it is your first playthrough pick normal diff. Also in first turn u can use auto-makaja or auto-kaja skill persona, there's no way a mini boss / boss can one shot u if u use auto skill persona in your first turn, at least just in case to protecc Joker, or using endure / enduring soul persona is a life safer.

i wouldn't be complaining about the one shot if it was after a number of moves, but this is literally a one shot at the start before i can even do anything. i wanted a challenge but this was not that and was just unfair. also thanks for the tip i had no idea about auto-skills.

[SleepingDragon]

If all else fails, cheat with the OP DLC Personas just for this battle(Izanagi is a good candidate). I never use them until I reach their levels to make my game more enjoyable.

[Detective Castellanos]

I'm playing on Merciless and I've never experienced what you're facing. Literally just ambush everything and start chaining Technicals

[♋Phenex]

Publicado originalmente por Detective Castellanos:

I'm playing on Merciless and I've never experienced what you're facing. Literally just ambush everything and start chaining Technicals

Merciless is easier than hard since you can abuse weakness and technicals. Either they blow up or you blow up. Hard doesn't have that 3x exploit damage multiplier.

[Detective Castellanos]

Publicado originalmente por ♋Phenex:

Publicado originalmente por Detective Castellanos:

I'm playing on Merciless and I've never experienced what you're facing. Literally just ambush everything and start chaining Technicals

Merciless is easier than hard since you can abuse weakness and technicals. Either they blow up or you blow up. Hard doesn't have that 3x exploit damage multiplier.

You can do the same things on Hard difficulty too, the multiplier isn't relevant when you bring the appropriate buffs and setups, the point of Technicals is to knock down and all out attack spam without targeting an enemies weak point. Between Shock, Sleep, and Freeze alone you cover 80%+ of all enemies in the game. Hard difficulty was my first playthrough, between Ambushes and Technical Knockdown All Out abuse you shouldn't have any trouble with the game at all up until Palace 5 and by that point if you don't have a full repertoire of ways to cause and abuse Technical knockdowns idk what you HAVE been doing.

[MasterKroket]

I had this happen once to me too joker got one shot and i lost like 30 min... That is pretty annoying / painful. Also playing on hard.

I also defaulted to what rezette mentioned. I actually used the thing that gives everyone +acc/evasion for 3 turns (from the secondhand clothing store you prob cant get to yet). I did use the 'hide' one for Joker to make him less likely to get targetted. There is also stuff that gives you auto +def for 3 turns you can give him to make the chance smaller. And yeah Ann can do -Attack on the enemy which is vital to make the odds smaller of this ever happening. Later on you also get stuff like 'endure' passive to make sure you cant get one shot. I also got this one persona that is immune to both bless and curse so those one shot abilities dont work. Whenever i was fighting enemies that did that i would just use that persona for Joker.

This hasnt happened to me anymore since early game so it gets better later when you got more options

[redfireman]

Publicado originalmente por MasterKroket:

I had this happen once to me too joker got one shot and i lost like 30 min... That is pretty annoying / painful. Also playing on hard.

I also defaulted to what rezette mentioned. I actually used the thing that gives everyone +acc/evasion for 3 turns (from the secondhand clothing store you prob cant get to yet). I did use the 'hide' one for Joker to make him less likely to get targetted. There is also stuff that gives you auto +def for 3 turns you can give him to make the chance smaller. And yeah Ann can do -Attack on the enemy which is vital to make the odds smaller of this ever happening. Later on you also get stuff like 'endure' passive to make sure you cant get one shot. I also got this one persona that is immune to both bless and curse so those one shot abilities dont work. Whenever i was fighting enemies that did that i would just use that persona for Joker.

This hasnt happened to me anymore since early game so it gets better later when you got more options

glad to see i'm not the only one, and thanks for the info.

screw archangel.