Didn't know the "Cardboard box" is actually Pandora's box - woops.

[Josith]

Got me thinking I should crank up to Hard or Merciless to offset these trinkets and a bunch of "free" stronk personas. Why dafuq would they give players the ability to stomp and ignore the "game" right at the gate...

[TheRealRws]

you dont have to use them.

[West]

brother just wait til u get to the main menu, or a cut scene, or any menu in the game, or u have a transition from 1 scene to another. your in for a really sick suprise

[Broseph884]

Originally posted by West:

brother just wait til u get to the main menu, or a cut scene, or any menu in the game, or u have a transition from 1 scene to another. your in for a really sick suprise

sounds like a skill issue tbh

[edmek55555]

The box is nothing. Very early on you have the ability to create personas of any level. I have a level 80 persona before the third boss

[West]

Originally posted by TheDankSpanker:

Originally posted by West:

brother just wait til u get to the main menu, or a cut scene, or any menu in the game, or u have a transition from 1 scene to another. your in for a really sick suprise

sounds like a skill issue tbh

huh

[DaBa]

Originally posted by edmek55555:

The box is nothing. Very early on you have the ability to create personas of any level. I have a level 80 persona before the third boss

You get things from the box that are better than any persona you can normally create even by the end of the game. So yeah, it's not "nothing". It's literally OP DLC stuff that makes the game almost play itself. And yeah, it's really stupid, I have no idea why they decided to take all those cool personas from previous games and make them gamebreaking, basically unusable unless you want to cheat.

[MizarAce]

Well, it is an easier version since you should have already played the original P5, it is made so you can breeze thru it and get to the new content.

To be fair the base game wasnt that hard either is not mainline after all.

[DaBa]

Originally posted by MizarAce:

Well, it is an easier version since you should have already played the original P5, it is made so you can breeze thru it and get to the new content.

To be fair the base game wasnt that hard either is not mainline after all.

I don't think this justified anything. Playing with OP personas just isn't fun at all, who or why would you even want o breeze through the game anyway, even if you played it? That's something that sounds like it makes sense in your head when you say it, but when you actually think about it, it doesn't.

Also, yes the base game wasn't difficult to begin with (unless you played on merciless, it actually made sense in the base game). But that's no justification for any of this. "oh yeah, the game was easy anyway so make it even easier and give people OP things that invalidate whatever challenge was left!", said nobody ever.

No, it just doesn't make sense. It would've been objectively better if those personas had normal stats, on par with other personas in the game, were accessible normally through advanced fusion or something like that, and had their unique skill be on par with base game's skills. A unique animation or effect is more than enough for flavor, you don't need to make it gamebreakingly OP. When I buy DLC with Izanagi, it's not because I want an OP persona that trivializes the game, it's because I want IZANAGI in my party, as long as the model is good and there are some unique animations to make it feel like it did in P4 then that's all anybody is asking for... Actually, scratch that. They could've simply copied the skills Izanagi gets in P4, literally the path of least resistance. it would make it feel even better and more authentic. But instead, we get a BS physical skill that nobody asked for. Good job Atlus, you sure understand your players.

None of this makes sense, I would love to talk to the person who decided it should be made like this and try to understand what made them think it was a good idea.

[Viper]

I knew about the cardboard box.SO I just did not open it.

[Velesianus]

If the game isn't challenging enough, ignore the box and set the game to "merciless".

Boom, problem solved.

If you're struggling to resist temptation I'm sure someone can make a mod to remove the box and force the difficulty to the highest setting.

[HoudiniFontmeister]

Silly. You are complaining about optional content you can ignore...

[MizarAce]

Originally posted by DaBa:

Originally posted by MizarAce:

Well, it is an easier version since you should have already played the original P5, it is made so you can breeze thru it and get to the new content.

To be fair the base game wasnt that hard either is not mainline after all.

I don't think this justified anything. Playing with OP personas just isn't fun at all, who or why would you even want o breeze through the game anyway, even if you played it? That's something that sounds like it makes sense in your head when you say it, but when you actually think about it, it doesn't.

Also, yes the base game wasn't difficult to begin with (unless you played on merciless, it actually made sense in the base game). But that's no justification for any of this. "oh yeah, the game was easy anyway so make it even easier and give people OP things that invalidate whatever challenge was left!", said nobody ever.

No, it just doesn't make sense. It would've been objectively better if those personas had normal stats, on par with other personas in the game, were accessible normally through advanced fusion or something like that, and had their unique skill be on par with base game's skills. A unique animation or effect is more than enough for flavor, you don't need to make it gamebreakingly OP. When I buy DLC with Izanagi, it's not because I want an OP persona that trivializes the game, it's because I want IZANAGI in my party, as long as the model is good and there are some unique animations to make it feel like it did in P4 then that's all anybody is asking for... Actually, scratch that. They could've simply copied the skills Izanagi gets in P4, literally the path of least resistance. it would make it feel even better and more authentic. But instead, we get a BS physical skill that nobody asked for. Good job Atlus, you sure understand your players.

None of this makes sense, I would love to talk to the person who decided it should be made like this and try to understand what made them think it was a good idea.

If they make the DLC personas weak and unusable in late game, who would buy them, remember that all that was paid content.

An yes, people want to speedrun the base game to reach January so they can see the new content, this re-release wasnt about challenge, they wanted Kirito and the cute redhead with some more animated scenes.

Also once you reach level 51 you outgrew mostly everything except Izanagi no Okami.