The Thaumaturge

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Chackra Mar 19, 2024 @ 11:29am
WTF Ending & Final Battle?
Alert of spoilers!

1. I don't understand anything. Ok, I spent the whole game helping Rasputin and supporting him until the final speech of the zar. 40 hours on my first playthrough doing what this guy want just because I thought we could be best friend but suddenly, Wiktor go out and started a fight with him. WHAT? I almost suck his d.ck in this game. That ending has no sense and I feel like everything I've done didn't have value. Ok, I tried to get the pride achievement just chaning between normal and pride decisions but... this final change? I think is out of site but the worst part comes now...

2. Wtf is going on in the final battle against Rasputin? No, really, wtf. I'm just making a perfect clear battle attacking to the focus and everything is bugged (or have a new unknown mechanics to force me to sacrifice my salutors). I literally no need to sacrifice none of them but in the final rounds Rasputin literally put me on red skull without any reason (he even have enough damage to kill me). I'm on full life and suddenly, BOOM, next round I will die...

And the worst part is WHEN ONE ENEMY LOST HIS FOCUS and try to kill him with the powerfull attack of Wiktor (the execute), the game kills another different guy (WTF?) and save the first one and restart his focus again. And the worst part is that my salutor (preparing one attack on the second guy) loses his turn because I killed that poor bast.rd I'm not even focusing.

I love hard this game but this ending is making me so angry and destroying my game experience with nonsense mechanics or bugs (I guess).
Last edited by Chackra; Mar 19, 2024 @ 11:48am
Originally posted by 『Mr. No Body』:
The burden of Veles is you might random attack other guys instead. It is the part of mechanic
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Vivien0029 Mar 19, 2024 @ 2:26pm 
Raspoutine does not want a friend or a slave : he wants a powerfull ally.

in the final battle against him, if you don't sacrifice the salutors' bound, he can easily one shot you on the final round : it is all the point of this battle (-2 hp per bound per round! / one sacrifice replenish your life)
Chackra Mar 19, 2024 @ 2:30pm 
Ok smart guy, now explain me why I'm killing the guys I'm not attacking
Vivien0029 Mar 19, 2024 @ 3:22pm 
i'm trying to help...

Never got the focus problem

Sometimes I might have noticed that the npc on the back row is protected by the one ont the front but I am not sure cause it rarely happens : when wicktor shot with a power he killed the one on the front even if I target the one on the back. May be it what happened to you?

For the final battle :
if you sacrifice one bound each time you are low on health the battle will be really easy.
For instance, I kept Veles to use it's canceled power, Morana to break the focus to zero with pestilense, Upyr to clean all if needed, and sacrificed any other salutor when needed.
With wiktor I use mostly focus and "damage over time" with interruption option (luck).
Chackra Mar 19, 2024 @ 3:25pm 
Don't worry, indeed I completed the game easily and trying to get the last achievements but those things made me angry. I don't know what happened on the fight but was not normal... Anyways, thanks for the help
Vivien0029 Mar 19, 2024 @ 3:25pm 
for Raspoutine iwas not clear enough to not spoil :
to be powerfull ally max pride + all salutor. Not sure though the impact of all of choice
Chackra Mar 19, 2024 @ 3:33pm 
I reach that part with high pride and all salutors and I couldn't be Rasputin friend. Wiktor goes out during Rasputin speech in front of tzar and give me the options to support him or reveal his intentions. When I talk good about him, Rasputin betray me and tell everyone he doesn't know who I am...
Cow_Powah Mar 20, 2024 @ 6:09am 
Yeah that was NOT an ending battle that I expected. Hell I didn't even think that was the end! Few more choices and then the end choices roll and credits. But it left out a few of them for choices so it makes me wonder if the end was rushed or what.
BAKillington Mar 20, 2024 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Chackra:
Ok smart guy, now explain me why I'm killing the guys I'm not attacking

I had the same problem. It's most likely because you have the upgrade that attacks a random enemy bound to that skill. If I remember correctly, it doubles your damage, but attacks a random person. You might want to check your upgrades and change that one out if it is bugging you. For my ultimate skill I used "double damage if target is suffering". It was enough to 1 shot most of the enemies IF they had the suffering debuff.
treahnurb Mar 20, 2024 @ 7:36am 
Originally posted by Chackra:
I reach that part with high pride and all salutors and I couldn't be Rasputin friend. Wiktor goes out during Rasputin speech in front of tzar and give me the options to support him or reveal his intentions. When I talk good about him, Rasputin betray me and tell everyone he doesn't know who I am...
Did you obtain all Flaws?
Chackra Mar 20, 2024 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by BAKillington:
Originally posted by Chackra:
Ok smart guy, now explain me why I'm killing the guys I'm not attacking

I had the same problem. It's most likely because you have the upgrade that attacks a random enemy bound to that skill. If I remember correctly, it doubles your damage, but attacks a random person. You might want to check your upgrades and change that one out if it is bugging you. For my ultimate skill I used "double damage if target is suffering". It was enough to 1 shot most of the enemies IF they had the suffering debuff.

Hm... maybe you are right but I only had that problem on Rasputin's final battle. My strategy was full decrease focus with Lelek and ultimate them. In any case, I'm just rushing my second playthrough to get my last achievements to end this game. It was a nice game an adventure for me but one run is enough for me (and Dragon's Dogma 2 is coming soon).
Chackra Mar 20, 2024 @ 9:51am 
Originally posted by treahnurb:
Originally posted by Chackra:
I reach that part with high pride and all salutors and I couldn't be Rasputin friend. Wiktor goes out during Rasputin speech in front of tzar and give me the options to support him or reveal his intentions. When I talk good about him, Rasputin betray me and tell everyone he doesn't know who I am...
Did you obtain all Flaws?

I think not, I think I had 2 or 3 empty slots. Why? Do I need all of them to be Rasputin's friend? That sounds a real headache... but thinking about that seriously, I got most of them with a high pride and that pride force me to get this "bad" ending. Is there any way to get all endings with just one game, saving and reloading on epilogue to get all achievements?
Last edited by Chackra; Mar 20, 2024 @ 9:52am
treahnurb Mar 20, 2024 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Chackra:
Originally posted by treahnurb:
Did you obtain all Flaws?

I think not, I think I had 2 or 3 empty slots. Why? Do I need all of them to be Rasputin's friend? That sounds a real headache... but thinking about that seriously, I got most of them with a high pride and that pride force me to get this "bad" ending. Is there any way to get all endings with just one game, saving and reloading on epilogue to get all achievements?

I don't know, I haven't aquired a "good" Rasputin ending, he called me "too weak". I only try to gather what it could possible be. For example I left the Flaw to the boy in the church, because he was a fellow Thaumaturg. Rasputin showed understanding at that point but the "Rasputin will remember that" thing popped up. I do suspect you need to do whatever to not appear weak in Rasputin's eyes...
Maybe even kill people were you haven't killed them, I don't know.
As for your last question: I doubt that? But alas, no clue.
Last edited by treahnurb; Mar 20, 2024 @ 11:29am
Chackra Mar 20, 2024 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by treahnurb:
Originally posted by Chackra:

I think not, I think I had 2 or 3 empty slots. Why? Do I need all of them to be Rasputin's friend? That sounds a real headache... but thinking about that seriously, I got most of them with a high pride and that pride force me to get this "bad" ending. Is there any way to get all endings with just one game, saving and reloading on epilogue to get all achievements?

I don't know, I haven't aquired a "good" Rasputin ending, he called me "too weak". I only try to gather what it could possible be. For example I left the Flaw to the boy in the church, because he was a fellow Thaumaturg. Rasputin showed understanding at that point but the "Rasputin will remember that" thing popped up. I do suspect you need to do whatever to not appear weak in Rasputin's eyes...
Maybe even kill people were you haven't killed them, I don't know.
As for your last question: I doubt that? But alas, no clue.

On my first playthrough I got 9 of 11 flaws (I checked it). 7 came from all salutors and the 2 others from Pyotr (our cousin) and Szymon (the child in the church). I don't know where I get the others and I did almost all quests in the game. On my game Rasputin mention too there is no place for the weakness, tell tzar I'm not his friend and he doesn't know who I am, even when I tell everyone he helped me and saved my life. Now I'm trying on my second game to not grow my pride and be the good guy until the end of the game, then save and try every ending. I'll continue when I reach that part...
Last edited by Chackra; Mar 20, 2024 @ 11:46am
treahnurb Mar 20, 2024 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by Chackra:
Originally posted by treahnurb:

I don't know, I haven't aquired a "good" Rasputin ending, he called me "too weak". I only try to gather what it could possible be. For example I left the Flaw to the boy in the church, because he was a fellow Thaumaturg. Rasputin showed understanding at that point but the "Rasputin will remember that" thing popped up. I do suspect you need to do whatever to not appear weak in Rasputin's eyes...
Maybe even kill people were you haven't killed them, I don't know.
As for your last question: I doubt that? But alas, no clue.

On my first playthrough I got 9 of 11 flaws (I checked it). 7 came from all salutors and the 2 others from Pyotr (our cousin) and Szymon (the child in the church). I don't know where I get the others and I did almost all quests in the game. On my game Rasputin mention too there is no place for the weakness, tell tzar I'm not his friend and he doesn't know who I am, even when I tell everyone he helped me and saved my life. Now I'm trying on my second game to not grow my pride and be the good guy until the end of the game, then save and try every ending. I'll continue when I reach that part...

I think you absolutely need Pride for Rasputin though but I might be wrong.
What did you do with your sisters Flaw?
Chackra Mar 20, 2024 @ 12:07pm 
Originally posted by treahnurb:
Originally posted by Chackra:

On my first playthrough I got 9 of 11 flaws (I checked it). 7 came from all salutors and the 2 others from Pyotr (our cousin) and Szymon (the child in the church). I don't know where I get the others and I did almost all quests in the game. On my game Rasputin mention too there is no place for the weakness, tell tzar I'm not his friend and he doesn't know who I am, even when I tell everyone he helped me and saved my life. Now I'm trying on my second game to not grow my pride and be the good guy until the end of the game, then save and try every ending. I'll continue when I reach that part...

I think you absolutely need Pride for Rasputin though but I might be wrong.
What did you do with your sisters Flaw?

I got her flaw for myself, every flaw I founded was for me and no care about the consecuences. Even the salutors Golem and Dijin also were for me. If Rasputin thinks I'm weak is because:

1. I forgot 2 random flaws by the game (don't think those remaining flaws are relevant).
2. Maybe you have to use your skills with the grimoire on the 3 NPCs at the end of the game before tzar speech? I tried to talk with them correctly using peacefull arguments (except the soldier that force me to battle) and that's not the idea. Can you check it? I don't have saves on that part of the game.
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