Lelek and Djinn

[treahnurb]

Is it just me or is that combo ridiculously strong? Use Djinn, get debuffs, move debuffs with Lelek to enemies... easy as cake. Take's away Djinns "downside" completely.

[Qhue]

Yeah the Djinn and Lelek (or Upyr) is crazy useful. Lelek by itself is also clutch because it prevents all that damn bleeding damage that some of the more blade-happy revolutionaries employ. Just keep blocking the effects while whittling down their Focus until you can lay them out with a haymaker.

[treahnurb]

Originally posted by Qhue:

Yeah the Djinn and Lelek (or Upyr) is crazy useful. Lelek by itself is also clutch because it prevents all that damn bleeding damage that some of the more blade-happy revolutionaries employ. Just keep blocking the effects while whittling down their Focus until you can lay them out with a haymaker.

Upyr, however, only takes debuffs away from you while Lelek can transferm them. You get debuffed by Djinn and enemies and then transfer all the BS via Lelek. The gamble with Djinn is supposed to be that he punishes you for using his stronger abilities but Lelek just goes squak and transfers said punishment to the enemies :D

[Mijj]

Not really, Lelek's attack is 2 turns and the debuff from Djinn hits you on the turn you get it

[treahnurb]

Originally posted by Mijj:

Not really, Lelek's attack is 2 turns and the debuff from Djinn hits you on the turn you get it

No that is not what's happening. Djinn gives you the debuff immeditaly, that's true. It's two turns and you receive the damage once these two turns are over. Swap in Lelek right after and use his ability to transfer debuffs to enemies and you'll see the enemy gets the Djinn debuff you had.

[The Drwal]

Try Morana and her 1st attack. THAT is almost cheating, especially on enemies with lot of (removed) focus points.

I love it.

[Aeon]

Originally posted by The Drwal:

Try Morana and her 1st attack. THAT is almost cheating, especially on enemies with lot of (removed) focus points.

I love it.

Morana is stupid OP, i agree.

[Van De Ulthar]

Originally posted by treahnurb:

Originally posted by Mijj:

Not really, Lelek's attack is 2 turns and the debuff from Djinn hits you on the turn you get it

No that is not what's happening. Djinn gives you the debuff immeditaly, that's true. It's two turns and you receive the damage once these two turns are over. Swap in Lelek right after and use his ability to transfer debuffs to enemies and you'll see the enemy gets the Djinn debuff you had.

Could you confirm if it still works? cuz I'm now trying the combo and it does not work. Djinn's debuff countdown begins immediately in 1st turn it is imposed on you, and it causes dmg on you at the end of 2nd turn, lelek requires 2 turns to transfer the debuffs, you swap to lelek in 2nd turn, and djinn's debuff is always 1 turn ahead.

[treahnurb]

Originally posted by Van De Ulthar:

Originally posted by treahnurb:

No that is not what's happening. Djinn gives you the debuff immeditaly, that's true. It's two turns and you receive the damage once these two turns are over. Swap in Lelek right after and use his ability to transfer debuffs to enemies and you'll see the enemy gets the Djinn debuff you had.

Could you confirm if it still works? cuz I'm now trying the combo and it does not work. Djinn's debuff countdown begins immediately in 1st turn it is imposed on you, and it causes dmg on you at the end of 2nd turn, lelek requires 2 turns to transfer the debuffs, you swap to lelek in 2nd turn, and djinn's debuff is always 1 turn ahead.

Later, maybe. Would have to reinstall the game and I am not sure I have a save game where I can try out a fight. But I can tell you that it worked when I wrote this 100% because I did it all the time. It could be that there's some sort of perk or ability you can skill that reduces the amount of turns Lelek needs. I really can't tell right now, it's been a while.

[treahnurb]

Okay I was curious so I quickly installed the game and took a look.
It's probably the Bond of Speed that you need aditionally.

https://ibb.co/Q3qfyG65

I probably never thought about it much because I maxed out Heart anyway and had this before I had Djinn.