"Culturally Diverse"

[Mad Hatter]

Oh hell yeah! We haven't been getting enough of that shoved down our throats lately!

"The Thaumaturge is a story-driven RPG with morally ambiguous choices, taking place in the culturally diverse world of early 20th century Warsaw. In this world, Salutors exist: esoteric beings that only Thaumaturges can truly perceive and use for their needs."

And don't even hit me with that "Warsaw was a culturally diverse place at that point in history" crap. Maybe it was, but that doesn't explain why you felt the need to include it in your TWO SENTENCE (officially not even a paragraph) game description.

Woke pandering explains it, though. You can dress it up however you'd like, but we've been digging through this cesspool for many years now. We know the red flags. Touting cultural diversity as a selling point says enough.

[thunda]

Like I said in the previous thread, cultural diversity in this case could mean for example germanic, french, british, slavic cultures and people being present.

I have no patience for woke garbage either, so we'll see how it turns out. But for now there's no real proof of wokeness

[Mad Hatter]

Originally posted by thunda:

Like I said in the previous thread, cultural diversity in this case could mean for example germanic, french, british, slavic cultures and people being present.

Yes, it absolutely could mean that.

But how often do you see the buzzword used in that way? And can someone make the reasonable claim of ignorance of the modern usage of the word? I'd say it's near impossible that they aren't aware of the use of this buzzword, and they made a conscious decision to use it in the two-sentence game description as a selling point.

One final thought, and I could be way off base with this one:
"Cultural diversity" is typically used to describe the overt meshing of [potentially] clashing cultures. The melting pot. A heterogenous mix of European cultures hardly fits that bill.

[thunda]

Originally posted by Mad Hatter:

Originally posted by thunda:

Like I said in the previous thread, cultural diversity in this case could mean for example germanic, french, british, slavic cultures and people being present.

Yes, it absolutely could mean that.

But how often do you see the buzzword used in that way? And can someone make the reasonable claim of ignorance of the modern usage of the word? I'd say it's near impossible that they aren't aware of the use of this buzzword, and they made a conscious decision to use it in the two-sentence game description as a selling point.

You never see it used like that, and I know the kind of buzzword it is. But until I see proof I'll keep this wishlisted

[Mad Hatter]

Originally posted by thunda:

Originally posted by Mad Hatter:

Yes, it absolutely could mean that.

But how often do you see the buzzword used in that way? And can someone make the reasonable claim of ignorance of the modern usage of the word? I'd say it's near impossible that they aren't aware of the use of this buzzword, and they made a conscious decision to use it in the two-sentence game description as a selling point.

You never see it used like that, and I know the kind of buzzword it is. But until I see proof I'll keep this wishlisted

Oh, I've still got it wishlisted. Unless the woke stuff is really bad, I can look past it if the gameplay/story is good enough. I just think it's important for the community to remind developers that we're well aware of what pandering looks like. It's a lazy marketing tactic typically aimed at a demographic that won't play the game anyways.

[thunda]

Originally posted by Mad Hatter:

Originally posted by thunda:

You never see it used like that, and I know the kind of buzzword it is. But until I see proof I'll keep this wishlisted

Oh, I've still got it wishlisted. Unless the woke stuff is really It's a lazy marketing tactic typically aimed at a demographic that won't play the game anyways.

And thats the worst part of it, other than the propaganda aspect

[Mad Hatter]

Originally posted by thunda:

Originally posted by Mad Hatter:

Oh, I've still got it wishlisted. Unless the woke stuff is really It's a lazy marketing tactic typically aimed at a demographic that won't play the game anyways.

And thats the worst part of it, other than the propaganda aspect

Agreed. I lose respect for devs when they sacrifice ethics for an extra dollar.

[IwearSILLYhats]

Originally posted by Mad Hatter:

Oh hell yeah! We haven't been getting enough of that shoved down our throats lately!

"The Thaumaturge is a story-driven RPG with morally ambiguous choices, taking place in the culturally diverse world of early 20th century Warsaw. In this world, Salutors exist: esoteric beings that only Thaumaturges can truly perceive and use for their needs."

And don't even hit me with that "Warsaw was a culturally diverse place at that point in history" crap. Maybe it was, but that doesn't explain why you felt the need to include it in your TWO SENTENCE (officially not even a paragraph) game description.

Woke pandering explains it, though. You can dress it up however you'd like, but we've been digging through this cesspool for many years now. We know the red flags. Touting cultural diversity as a selling point says enough.

Imagine being so fragile that the existence of black people gives you a mental breakdown.

[Mad Hatter]

Originally posted by IwearSILLYhats:

Originally posted by Mad Hatter:

Oh hell yeah! We haven't been getting enough of that shoved down our throats lately!

"The Thaumaturge is a story-driven RPG with morally ambiguous choices, taking place in the culturally diverse world of early 20th century Warsaw. In this world, Salutors exist: esoteric beings that only Thaumaturges can truly perceive and use for their needs."

And don't even hit me with that "Warsaw was a culturally diverse place at that point in history" crap. Maybe it was, but that doesn't explain why you felt the need to include it in your TWO SENTENCE (officially not even a paragraph) game description.

Woke pandering explains it, though. You can dress it up however you'd like, but we've been digging through this cesspool for many years now. We know the red flags. Touting cultural diversity as a selling point says enough.

Imagine being so fragile that the existence of black people gives you a mental breakdown.

Why did your mind immediately jump to black people?

[Guglhupf]

You know what's even worse getting shoved down our throats? The 100 BILLIONTH "boohoo why is it so woke??" thread.

[Mad Hatter]

Originally posted by Guglhupf:

You know what's even worse getting shoved down our throats? The 100 BILLIONTH "boohoo why is it so woke??" thread.

Why bump a dead thread then?

[Soul]

Go woke go broke.

[Echorion]

Because it is an accurate statement of the game? Warsaw at the time this game takes place had a very multinational population and was a melting pot of people.
It's literally just telling you that you can expect a supporting cast of people diverse in all aspects coming from various walks of life, instead of a more homogenised crowd. That's it. That's literally all they are saying.

If you have a problem due to your own prejudices and hate of other ethnicity that's your problem, not really anyone or anything else. Go twist your narratives somewhere else please.

[tommy]

There you go, I'll just share 2 answers to the same question from different threads. Hope that answers your question.

The reason we included that in the game description is because Warsaw 1905 is actually a very uncommon setting and a huge chunk of the audience might not know much about the city at that time. Warsaw at the beginning of the 20th century was vibrant with people of different nationalities, religions, ethnicities, various cultures and speaking different languages. This fact about the city might be surprising to some but we believe that it also makes it very interesting. Throughout the game you’ll meet characters from different cultures, such as Polish, Russian, Jewish, etc. Their nationality won’t be the core of their personalities or characters but it won’t be completely insignificant as well.
The cultural variety is not the core of the game but you can’t accurately depict Warsaw 1905 without mentioning how vastly diverse the place was.

And also:

That's not how the word is used in this context. You can check the entire game description and find:
"The year is 1905. Warsaw lives under the yoke of imperial Russian tsardom. Its inhabitants constitute a diverse group of different ancestries, views, and beliefs with often conflicting interests: Russian soldiers, Jewish merchants, Polish townspeople, and more. Despite the circumstances, the city is a buzzing metropolis, where one can attend a breathtaking party with the high society, and later get robbed in one of the dark alleys of the Praga district. A city of great hopes and dreams on one hand and dark desires on the other."

Warsaw at that time was full of people representing all sorts of different nationalities, ethnicities, religious and cultural backgrounds. It's not a fantasy or "woke propaganda", it's a historical fact. It's true and at the same time adds great vibrance and enriches the lore of the game so we just wanted to point that out.

[Duncan McBiscuit]

The fact that a developer took the time to respond to this inane post, means they've already earned a buy from you.

If you're going to waste people's time, at least compensate them accordingly.

[Night]

Originally posted by Mad Hatter:

Oh hell yeah! We haven't been getting enough of that shoved down our throats lately!

"The Thaumaturge is a story-driven RPG with morally ambiguous choices, taking place in the culturally diverse world of early 20th century Warsaw. In this world, Salutors exist: esoteric beings that only Thaumaturges can truly perceive and use for their needs."

And don't even hit me with that "Warsaw was a culturally diverse place at that point in history" crap. Maybe it was, but that doesn't explain why you felt the need to include it in your TWO SENTENCE (officially not even a paragraph) game description.

Woke pandering explains it, though. You can dress it up however you'd like, but we've been digging through this cesspool for many years now. We know the red flags. Touting cultural diversity as a selling point says enough.

If cultural diversity is truly a red flag to you, you might be actually a racist lol