Kayak VR: Mirage

Kayak VR: Mirage

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iNCEPTIONAL Jun 25, 2022 @ 12:50pm
motorboat tourist option
In the free roam mode it would be cool if I could move around without having to row. I actually get a sore head from all the swinging around and stuff. So just having an option to sit in a small motor boat and press a button and/or direction to move through the level without any effort would be really cool. It's just a slight expansion of the free roam mode.
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DDC Jul 2, 2022 @ 4:10am 
Imagine trying a kayaking simulator and then complaining that you have to pilot a kayak. Do you request to drive cars in Flight Simulator because you don't like to fly planes also?
Stellar  [developer] Jul 4, 2022 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by iNCEPTIONAL:
In the free roam mode it would be cool if I could move around without having to row. I actually get a sore head from all the swinging around and stuff. So just having an option to sit in a small motor boat and press a button and/or direction to move through the level without any effort would be really cool. It's just a slight expansion of the free roam mode.

I don't think we'll put anything in the game that would break it so hard as being able to motorboat around but we might create a free-ride mode that slowly moves you through the environment in the future as an accessibility option. And who knows, if we go into a more arcadey direction we might provide a special mode that allows this but for now you'll have to do the work ;)
RippieFlippie Jul 4, 2022 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by DDC:
Imagine trying a kayaking simulator and then complaining that you have to pilot a kayak. Do you request to drive cars in Flight Simulator because you don't like to fly planes also?
I do not think it would take anything away from the game. Just a casual option with really simple controls like just gamepad VR or similar. The game is very pretty and some people just want to 'be there'.
iNCEPTIONAL Jul 24, 2022 @ 8:15am 
Originally posted by Ten Finger Keyboard Warrior:
Originally posted by DDC:
Imagine trying a kayaking simulator and then complaining that you have to pilot a kayak. Do you request to drive cars in Flight Simulator because you don't like to fly planes also?
I do not think it would take anything away from the game. Just a casual option with really simple controls like just gamepad VR or similar. The game is very pretty and some people just want to 'be there'.
Yeah, that's my feelings. I really just want to sit there and go through the world and enjoy all the love that has clearly went into it. But I really can't be bothered basically doing a gym work out to get that out of the game.
iNCEPTIONAL Jul 24, 2022 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by Ten Finger Keyboard Warrior:
Originally posted by DDC:
Imagine trying a kayaking simulator and then complaining that you have to pilot a kayak. Do you request to drive cars in Flight Simulator because you don't like to fly planes also?
I do not think it would take anything away from the game. Just a casual option with really simple controls like just gamepad VR or similar. The game is very pretty and some people just want to 'be there'.
Yeah, there's probably a more effective way of allowing a more casual tourist mode than my motor suggestion, but I couldn't think of it off the top of my head, so I conveyed the general idea. Just some way to move around and appreciate your lovely work without having to go through the gym workout would be great. The other guy's suggestion of having a controller mode, where you could see the oars automatically rowing or something, would likely do the trick.
Bosmang Jul 29, 2022 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by Stellar:
Originally posted by iNCEPTIONAL:
In the free roam mode it would be cool if I could move around without having to row. I actually get a sore head from all the swinging around and stuff. So just having an option to sit in a small motor boat and press a button and/or direction to move through the level without any effort would be really cool. It's just a slight expansion of the free roam mode.

I don't think we'll put anything in the game that would break it so hard as being able to motorboat around but we might create a free-ride mode that slowly moves you through the environment in the future as an accessibility option. And who knows, if we go into a more arcadey direction we might provide a special mode that allows this but for now you'll have to do the work ;)
Allowing people with physical disabilities to control things (not just be passive) is REALLY IMPORTANT.

Simply adding xbox controller support in free roam would make this game accessible to many more people--people who can never go kayaking in real life.


https://www.xbox.com/en-US/accessories/controllers/xbox-adaptive-controller

Adding adaptive controller support via xbox would greatly expand the market for the game as well.

I could see it being very popular for physical therapy with more control options.
grzegorz77 Jul 29, 2022 @ 10:22am 
Originally posted by Bosmang:
Originally posted by Stellar:

I don't think we'll put anything in the game that would break it so hard as being able to motorboat around but we might create a free-ride mode that slowly moves you through the environment in the future as an accessibility option. And who knows, if we go into a more arcadey direction we might provide a special mode that allows this but for now you'll have to do the work ;)
Allowing people with physical disabilities to control things (not just be passive) is REALLY IMPORTANT.

Simply adding xbox controller support in free roam would make this game accessible to many more people--people who can never go kayaking in real life.


https://www.xbox.com/en-US/accessories/controllers/xbox-adaptive-controller

Adding adaptive controller support via xbox would greatly expand the market for the game as well.

I could see it being very popular for physical therapy with more control options.

How many people does your congregation of people with disabilities associate?
Are you planning collective shopping?
How many vr headsets have you purchased?
Do you have a government grant that you plan to invest in adding this functionality to the game, what do you expect in return?
Bosmang Jul 29, 2022 @ 12:42pm 
Originally posted by grzegorz77:
Originally posted by Bosmang:
Allowing people with physical disabilities to control things (not just be passive) is REALLY IMPORTANT.

Simply adding xbox controller support in free roam would make this game accessible to many more people--people who can never go kayaking in real life.


https://www.xbox.com/en-US/accessories/controllers/xbox-adaptive-controller

Adding adaptive controller support via xbox would greatly expand the market for the game as well.

I could see it being very popular for physical therapy with more control options.

How many people does your congregation of people with disabilities associate?
Are you planning collective shopping?
How many vr headsets have you purchased?
Do you have a government grant that you plan to invest in adding this functionality to the game, what do you expect in return?

Well, I don't have a congregation, so...

If you're concerned about the market size--There's a big enough market for adaptive gaming that Microsoft went to the trouble of INVENTING adaptive controllers for xbox/pc.

So, there is a market...

BUT, why limit this to adaptive gaming? I've seen plenty of requests for controller support from (presumably) able-bodied folks too. That market is HUGE.

The fact that the dev's are marketing commercial licenses on the store page tells me that they should already have plenty of incentive to make this game as accessible as it can possibly be.


On a personal note, you seem a bit triggered...

Are you being bullied by people with disabilities?

You know, if they had more fun/interesting games to play, they'd have less time to pick on you!

:steammocking:
PsychoBunny Jul 4, 2024 @ 3:55pm 
I would absolutely love to be able to simply auto-pilot the game so I could actually work out while emerged in this world whiel using my rowing-machine, kinda difficult to kayak on a rowing machine haha :>
PsychoBunny Jul 4, 2024 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by PsychoBunny:
I would absolutely love to be able to simply auto-pilot the game so I could actually work out while emerged in this world whiel using my rowing-machine, kinda difficult to kayak on a rowing machine haha :>
apparently there is turist mode so yay!
Bud Jul 8, 2024 @ 4:20pm 
Originally posted by PsychoBunny:
Originally posted by PsychoBunny:
I would absolutely love to be able to simply auto-pilot the game so I could actually work out while emerged in this world whiel using my rowing-machine, kinda difficult to kayak on a rowing machine haha :>
apparently there is turist mode so yay!

I would gladly buy a DLC content of a new type of raft like the image below. One that could use two oars and a very small motor added in, perhaps. But still, to see a new skin and to use TWO Oars instead of just one may be a nice change and more to what I use in 'real' life.

https://www.amazon.com/Intex-Person-Fishing-Eight-Trolling/dp/B0849RCYP9?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&amp&ref_=fplfs&amp&psc=1&amp&smid=A1DXN92KCKEQV4
Last edited by Bud; Jul 8, 2024 @ 4:23pm
Bud Jul 8, 2024 @ 7:44pm 
I do have a question though, the "Tour" mode offers no benefit that "Freeroam" doesn't offer but it takes your oaring aspect away for the option to play it.

My question is, why would anyone who knows pick "Tour" as a person could just freeroam the map and to just sit and do nothing...does nothing. What is the point?
Stellar  [developer] Jul 9, 2024 @ 2:11am 
Originally posted by Bud:
I do have a question though, the "Tour" mode offers no benefit that "Freeroam" doesn't offer but it takes your oaring aspect away for the option to play it.

My question is, why would anyone who knows pick "Tour" as a person could just freeroam the map and to just sit and do nothing...does nothing. What is the point?

It's partly an accessibility feature for people who aren't able to kayak so well but some people also really enjoy taking a relaxing route through the environment without having to focus on paddling and just want to take in the sights :)
LEMORTIS Aug 2, 2024 @ 12:42pm 
I would also love a rudderless option like this. I searched for it in the forum and then found this thread.
angelsenvy228 Aug 4, 2024 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Stellar:
Originally posted by Bud:
I do have a question though, the "Tour" mode offers no benefit that "Freeroam" doesn't offer but it takes your oaring aspect away for the option to play it.

My question is, why would anyone who knows pick "Tour" as a person could just freeroam the map and to just sit and do nothing...does nothing. What is the point?

It's partly an accessibility feature for people who aren't able to kayak so well but some people also really enjoy taking a relaxing route through the environment without having to focus on paddling and just want to take in the sights :)
I don't get why you don't simply put an option/bind paddling to a button, its not like the buttons are doing anythings for the most part except the menu button. Just bind a button to hold or toggle auto/continuous rowing and tilt or point the controller(s) for direction. I dont think anyone would want to take a "tour" mode where they just sit there drifting slowly with no control, you can just watch a movie for that you don't even need to develop a game.
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