Tinder Bug, losing water and coal

[CrazyHawk]

Hey guys. I found this annoying bug/game breaker. I thought I was just being forgetful , but I have caught this twice now. Because of this I make sure I refuel my coal and water in my engine before the run from the Saw Mill to the Logging camp (L2, Middle camp) and back to the saw mill. I should be able to do this 2 times before refueling. I've tried 2 different engines also. The fist time I caught this was on my return trip from camp to saw mill. My engine stooped at the first switch coming into the saw mill interchange area. The second time (and I still have the save file for this one) It (different engine) was sitting at the camp and its out of water. I couldn't even get a full round trip with it.
Let me know if you need the file dev's. I really LOVE the game already and am really far into it. I'm at the second bridge and have the CTC signals in. This game is hitting all my Bucket list want in a train game. I would love to see expansions into more modern engines latter on. So please keep up the great work.

[Gripen]

take look if the tender is damge if soo it can leak water and coal

[schutt]

No Problem in my game, maybe your Tender has damage, and what engines do you experience the problems with?

[chadnesbit]

Do you have the engine set to road mode and it autostopped at L2 end of track? If so, there is a known bug with the AI where the engine will stop but then keep nudging back and forth a tiny amount while it sits there using up coal and water. You can use a fusee to let you know you can set the engine to stop while it loads.

[CrazyHawk]

ill double check if any damage but its happened on 2 different engines so fare. the first one is old #1. the one you re-rail in the tutorial and the second one is brand new, an Atlantic engine.... literally, it was on its first run....

Also yes I do use Road but I did notice the rolling glitch so I made sure to watch it on the map while I work my main loads. When it gets to L2 I jump there and put it into Manuel and set the engine break ( not train) and I even set 2 of the log car hand breaks also to stop any rolling. This is why I think its a bug. As the old saying go's "fool me once, shame one you. Fool me twice, shame on me." lol

[DorniNerd]

Right now the AI likes to freak out a bit... We are working on improving it! Sorry for your issues.

[CrazyHawk]

Thanks for the response. just wanted to let you know about it and offer my save file encase it would help since I saved it when it happened.Keep up the great work. This is my Crack game. I cant get enough of it. lol

[DorniNerd]

Originally posted by CrazyHawk:

Thanks for the response. just wanted to let you know about it and offer my save file encase it would help since I saved it when it happened.Keep up the great work. This is my Crack game. I cant get enough of it. lol

Lets see what happens after when we update it next, go from there :)

[CrazyHawk]

I found a temp fix. When you park the car's, set a couple of hand breaks on the car's and pull away from the car's a little. My other train has made it to Bryson and I checked the log train and it has lost no water or coal. :)

[-- scippie --]

I am having this same issue with a simple passenger run locomotive (I use the ten wheeler for that) with two passenger wagons. I just went to refuel and thought... hmm this is quick, didn't I just do that some moments ago?. Second time for me too, but the first time was the L2-bug it seems.

The water keeps leaking. The water faucet keeps lowering and going back when I stand still under it because it leaks.
There is no damage on any of the parts of that train (condition 100% on all four).

[-- scippie --]

Originally posted by CrazyHawk:

I found a temp fix. When you park the car's, set a couple of hand breaks on the car's and pull away from the car's a little. My other train has made it to Bryson and I checked the log train and it has lost no water or coal. :)

I concur... uncoupling and coupling again solves the problem.

[bfcmik]

You can just hand flick the air brake or put one of the cars into handbrake. This stops the train and you hear the quick toot of the whistle to let you know the loco has finished moving. I find setting a fusee under the end of track buffer works well, stopping the train a few feet from the buffer. If you need to you can then manual control the train to touch the buffer and stop.

[nwforest79]

If you notice the engine continues to let off steam from a very thin pipe when just sitting maybe this is why your tender loses water over time I don't know about the coal part though I think I spotted a bug at ela house I was trying to deliver a box car with building materials I was trying to pull the box car from the front of the engine so I could push it along side the unloading dock but the engine would only go about 0.2 mph when pulling it maybe there is a steep grade track in that area

[nwforest79]

They docked me 2.00 for damage to the box car but I didn't damage it only thing I did was couple to it and try to deliver it

[-- scippie --]

Originally posted by nwforest79:

If you notice the engine continues to let off steam from a very thin pipe when just sitting maybe this is why your tender loses water over time

I don't think that's true. I've had a loco stand still for half a day after filling up and its reserves were still full. I know it looks like the engine is on all the time, but that's just aesthetics imo.

[thebear05]

That pipe you see is the locomotive generator. It is for the lights. I do not believe this item is causing any water loss, it is just for looks. A hard shunt and couple will cause damage. Try to keep your speed to 5mph when coupling. I have any early Trainz game that used to chastise you if the couple speed was too high. As suggested do not leave locos couple up especially on grades as the game will keep moving it slightly. Uncouple and move the loco away a couple of feet. Connelly Creek L2 is known to use loco water if you do not move the loco away.