FSR3 + Proton = flickering mess

[edtoml]

This update make the game unplayable here. The game is on flickering mess - to the point that there should be a warning about epilepsy... Same results with Proton experimental or 8.0-3. Also there is NO selection to enable/disable frame generation in the Graphics menu though it does show FSR3 with the expected selections (eg Native AA is there). Please fix ASAP.

[Arokhantos]

Postat inițial de schM0ggi:

I checked my osd while testing.
VRR is working with FSR 3 and frame generation enabled on my side.
The reported HZ is not static and is changing all the time.

Must be broken on my end then that is disapointing it only reports 144hz unless i disable AFMF or FSR3

[C-dUb]

Postat inițial de edtoml:

This update make the game unplayable here. The game is on flickering mess - to the point that there should be a warning about epilepsy... Same results with Proton experimental or 8.0-3. Also there is NO selection to enable/disable frame generation in the Graphics menu though it does show FSR3 with the expected selections (eg Native AA is there). Please fix ASAP.

Don't know if any one has tried this fix on SubReddit r/SteamDeck from user u/Total_Chapter_5895 post titled "Enable FSR 3 with Forspoken on SteamOS, but the flickering stopped for me.

On SteamDeck desktop mode open Steam and in the search bar type in experimental(this should open proton experimental as a game application so long as you have proton experimental installed)
Go to Proton experimental settings/properties(gear icon or right click) choose betas and under beta participation choose latest bleeding edge option.

Now go to settings/properties in Forspoken and set compatibility to Proton experimental

Set launch otpions to VKD3D_FEATURE_LEVEL=12_2 %command%

Launch the game(still flickers until next step)

Under settings in game main menu, select graphics and set preset to custom and enable frame generation. This should stop the flickering.

Turn on Vsync and set resolution to 720p, graphics to low/off, texture quality to standard, fsr to quality, lock gpu clock to 1600mhz and finally on SteamOS set frame limiter to 60 FPS or off.

Hope this helps!.

[schM0ggi]

You obviously didn't read the thread as this solution was posted a few posts earlier on page 1, literally. :D

[Mommy💋LipStick]

No "screen flickering" over here ...

FSR3 (High Quality preset)+ Frame gen / Everyting else at standard + Antilag & Antilag+ = ON in radeon center → improves latency / frametimes by ALLOT = Silk Smooth gameplay over here.

BUT! i've noticed, the higher the grahpics settings the more Frame Latency (stutter !)
Like especialy when RT (ray tracing is on) even THOUGH, i still have min 80+ max 140+ fps)
With high settings and RT on .. That's so weird

Also, make sure you enable Antilag & AL+ .. Cuz the frame stutter is TOTAL WRECKAGE with those settings disabled while using FSR ingame !!!

cheers,

[Arokhantos]

Postat inițial de LipStick:

No "screen flickering" over here ...

FSR3 (High Quality preset)+ Frame gen / Everyting else at standard + Antilag & Antilag+ = ON in radeon center → improves latency / frametimes by ALLOT = Silk Smooth gameplay over here.

BUT! i've noticed, the higher the grahpics settings the more Frame Latency (stutter !)
Like especialy when RT (ray tracing is on) even THOUGH, i still have min 80+ max 140+ fps)
With high settings and RT on .. That's so weird

Also, make sure you enable Antilag & AL+ .. Cuz the frame stutter is TOTAL WRECKAGE with those settings disabled while using FSR ingame !!!

cheers,

Anti-lag+ has been removed with 23.10.2 due this

AMD has received reports of some games triggering anti-cheat bans on gamers when AMD Anti-Lag+ technology is enabled on Radeon graphics. To address this, we have released the AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 23.10.2 driver that disables Anti-Lag+ technology in all supported games, and we recommend gamers use the new driver. AMD is actively working with game developers to support them in re-instating gamers who were impacted by the anti-cheat bans. We will provide more information when available.

[Mommy💋LipStick]

Postat inițial de Arokhantos™:

Anti-lag+ has been removed with 23.10.2 due this

..ermm.. is that ↑ an typo 0_o.. i sure hope it is...
Because iam currently on preview driver 23.30.01.→02← ...

Just DL an few day's ago to try out Fluid Motion..

And Antilag+ still seems to be implemented though.

Edit: just checked for updates... none found .. so what you talkiing about ?
Unless preview drivers arent pushed forward through radeon center...!

cheers,

[Arokhantos]

Postat inițial de LipStick:

Postat inițial de Arokhantos™:

Anti-lag+ has been removed with 23.10.2 due this

..ermm.. is that ↑ an typo 0_o.. i sure hope it is...
Because iam currently on preview driver 23.30.01.→02← ...

Just DL an few day's ago to try out Fluid Motion..

And Antilag+ still seems to be implemented though.

Edit: just checked for updates... none found .. so what you talkiing about ?
Unless preview drivers arent pushed forward through radeon center...!

cheers,

i said 23.10.2 removed it preview driver with afmf will get patch to probably already got a patch to have AFMF work with HDR you wanna avoid using anti-lag+ globally and enable it per single player game only if avaible.
CS2 has vac banned users currently.
Apex legends has bans as well.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/6993585599475796069/?tscn=1697568395

[Mommy💋LipStick]

Postat inițial de Arokhantos™:

Postat inițial de LipStick:

..ermm.. is that ↑ an typo 0_o.. i sure hope it is...
Because iam currently on preview driver 23.30.01.→02← ...

Just DL an few day's ago to try out Fluid Motion..

And Antilag+ still seems to be implemented though.

Edit: just checked for updates... none found .. so what you talkiing about ?
Unless preview drivers arent pushed forward through radeon center...!

cheers,

i said 23.10.2 removed it preview driver with afmf will get patch to probably already got a patch to have AFMF work with HDR you wanna avoid using anti-lag+ globally and enable it per single player game only if avaible.
CS2 has vac banned users currently.
Apex legends has bans as well.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/6993585599475796069/?tscn=1697568395

Oh, hold on there.. I wos on 23.10.2 untill a few day's ago like ive said !
And NOPE, no AFMF feature to find anywhere though !! 23.10.2 are the official drivers..
While AFMF is only supported in the preview driver release as in unofficial as in beta driver ..!

And no, the drivers wich supports AFMF arent pushed through amd center neither !!
You have to search for them and DL it ...

That's how it worked for me... atleast ..


But thanks for the warning anyway about the online bans though...

WauW 0_o that actually some one gets banned for using the manufacturers drivers ...
Iam realy surprised and amused at the same time reading that fun fact LoL xD


cheers,

[Arokhantos]

Postat inițial de LipStick:

Postat inițial de Arokhantos™:

i said 23.10.2 removed it preview driver with afmf will get patch to probably already got a patch to have AFMF work with HDR you wanna avoid using anti-lag+ globally and enable it per single player game only if avaible.
CS2 has vac banned users currently.
Apex legends has bans as well.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/6993585599475796069/?tscn=1697568395

Oh, hold on there.. I wos on 23.10.2 untill a few day's ago like ive said !
And NOPE, no AFMF feature to find anywhere though !! 23.10.2 are the official drivers..
While AFMF is only supported in the preview driver release as in unofficial as in beta driver ..!

And no, the drivers wich supports AFMF arent pushed through amd center neither !!
You have to search for them and DL it ...

That's how it worked for me... atleast ..


But thanks for the warning anyway about the online bans though...

WauW 0_o that actually some one gets banned for using the manufacturers drivers ...
Iam realy surprised and amused at the same time reading that fun fact LoL xD


cheers,

Tech Preview will likely get a update again it already had 4 patches 4e one added AFMF and made AFMF globally toggleable in every game however that may not be a good idea cos it enables anti-lag+ as well if avaible which does trigger anti cheat, people online saying AFMF by it self with basic anti lag should be fine, just not anti-lag+

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-23-30-afmf-tech-preview

Last patch was from 13 oct

[Mommy💋LipStick]

Postat inițial de Arokhantos™:

Tech Preview will likely get a update again it already had 4 patches 4e one added AFMF and made AFMF globally toggleable in every game however that may not be a good idea cos it enables anti-lag+ as well if avaible which does trigger anti cheat, people online saying AFMF by it self with basic anti lag should be fine, just not anti-lag+

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-23-30-afmf-tech-preview

Last patch was from 13 oct

Well yes indeed, when enable antilag ... AL+ kicks automatically in :P
But to get banned by just that !?

Well iam one of the lucky few then... i have played up untill now RB6 Siege with AL+ enabled.. no ban so far :p

But iam sure those ppl will be unbanned soon enough, if hasn't happend already ..
These developers sure must know whats going on by now ..

cheers,

[Arokhantos]

Postat inițial de LipStick:

Postat inițial de Arokhantos™:

Tech Preview will likely get a update again it already had 4 patches 4e one added AFMF and made AFMF globally toggleable in every game however that may not be a good idea cos it enables anti-lag+ as well if avaible which does trigger anti cheat, people online saying AFMF by it self with basic anti lag should be fine, just not anti-lag+

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-23-30-afmf-tech-preview

Last patch was from 13 oct

Well yes indeed, when enable antilag ... AL+ kicks automatically in :P
But to get banned by just that !?

Well iam one of the lucky few then... i have played up untill now RB6 Siege with AL+ enabled.. no ban so far :p

But iam sure those ppl will be unbanned soon enough, if hasn't happend already ..
These developers sure must know whats going on by now ..

cheers,

Just enable per game only globally turned off, always verify its also disabled per game you play online especially apex legends call of duty counter-strike 2

[Mommy💋LipStick]

Postat inițial de Arokhantos™:

Postat inițial de LipStick:

Well yes indeed, when enable antilag ... AL+ kicks automatically in :P
But to get banned by just that !?

Well iam one of the lucky few then... i have played up untill now RB6 Siege with AL+ enabled.. no ban so far :p

But iam sure those ppl will be unbanned soon enough, if hasn't happend already ..
These developers sure must know whats going on by now ..

cheers,

Just enable per game only globally turned off, always verify its also disabled per game you play online especially apex legends call of duty counter-strike 2

+1.. These special features (except for AL & AL+) / Fluid Motion / Radeon Boost etc.. = Per Game ofcourse = Always

don't even use amd's preset Hypr-X.. Rather set it manuall... Like hypr-X enable RSR → Fullscreen instead of borderless RSR ... borderless Exclusive becomes more and more the standard ingames ..

Wich means the game will alway's start at the monitor's current resolution !!

And using RSR Fullscreen doesn't work with borderless settings ..
And in some games you just can't change resolution unless you change it to windowed game.. Or you'l have to dive into the game's *.ini file to manually change it !!!

cheers,

[Arokhantos]

Postat inițial de LipStick:

Postat inițial de Arokhantos™:

Just enable per game only globally turned off, always verify its also disabled per game you play online especially apex legends call of duty counter-strike 2

+1.. These special features AL / Fluid Motion / Radeon Boost etc.. = Per Game ofcourse = Always

don't even use amd's preset Hypr-X.. Rather set it manuall... Like hypr-X enable RSR → Fullscreen instead of borderless RSR ... borderless Exclusive becomes more and more the standard ingames ..

Wich means the game will alway's start at the monitor's current resolution !!

And using RSR Fullscreen doesn't work with borderless settings ..
And in some games you just can't change resolution unless you change it to windowed game.. Or you'l have to dive into the game's *.ini file to manually change it !!!

cheers,

From experience fullscreen exclusive games often have driver timeout issues, AMD can't do fullscreen exclusive it should not even be supported unless game has a exclusive mode most games do not have fullscreen exclusive but just fullscreen which is like borderless but it minimizes when you alt tab

[Mommy💋LipStick]

Postat inițial de Arokhantos™:

From experience fullscreen exclusive games often have driver timeout issues, AMD can't do fullscreen exclusive it should not even be supported unless game has a exclusive mode most games do not have fullscreen exclusive but just fullscreen which is like borderless but it minimizes when you alt tab

errm... i think i have read numerous times that borderless is by defenition → exclusive mode... even though it's not mention explecit ingame...

Somegames do mention → Borderless Exclusive..

cheers,

[Megalomaniakaal]

Postat inițial de Dampfkaff:

I found this: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/6474#issuecomment-1743102078

edt-xx commented 6 hours ago
search proton experimental on your game list, right click > properties > beta > bleeding edge, set game to use proton-experimental, it should work now.

Did not realize you could make this selection... It works with bleeding edge (Thanks!). Still gets flickering without FSR3 frame generation though. I use:

VKD3D_FEATURE_LEVEL=12_2 SteamDeck=0

Works fine on my good old RX580...FPS really seem to have doubled. I enabled VSYNC though... will do further testing.

Can confirm, Beta channel of Experimental seems to work. Still a bit crashy, Such as I tried changing clouds from low to standard and crashed. But Frame gen now works. Looks higher frame rate but as expected, input lag is definitely there. Camera motion is a bit jittery for lack of a better word for example.