FSR 3 + frame Gen impressions on a 7900 XTX

[valcan_s]

Well I just tried it and I have to say as someone that refuses to use any up scaling like FSR or DLSS(when I had my 12GB 3080 in my main rig) this is actually amazing and I am going to use it for the first time! The 4K native purist has been broken, damn dude!

I have a 7900 XTX now and run it to my HDMI 2.1 4K 50 inch gaming HDTV that is tapped out at 120Hz and I can easily play the game MAX'ed out with RT and it is MEGA smooth at 120 FPS. Just note, what ever you do for the FSR 3 settings don't use the Native AA setting instead set it to Quality. I get super weird Vsync issues even though the FPS is high, it is all jacked up and hurts my eyes as if the sync is all messed up. So this issue is only with the : Native AA setting, quality basically looks like native 4K(I think it is the best anyways from the FSR 3 settings). I have been running 4K native and no AA and it does look really nice but the jump to 120 FPS and RT is 100% worth it with zero hit on visuals(it actually looks better since I get RT).

That is my mini impression, it is the real deal and sick I am really impressed!

All I can really say is they should of had this ready and all juiced up for Cyberpunk 2077. If this can run Cyberpunk at 4K MAX and all the RT on and 60 FPS or more that will be totally insane!!!!!!!!!!!

Post you thoughts on FSR3 and frame Gen on your comp setup and I will also leave you all with this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-BkrwO_Dck

[Pariwak]

I tried the Forspoken demo FSR3 on my 5700 XT and a 240 hz monitor. It feels to me like FG is doing nothing at all except make the fps number higher.

I compared 60 fps FG off and 70 fps FG on (I changed the graphics settings to try and match the fps between the two, the settings I used for FG on is ~38 fps if I turned FG off) and the "real" 60 fps FG off looked and felt much smoother. I recorded a video of walking no mouse input and counted 38 distinct frames over 1 second of footage with "70 fps" FG on which matches my subjective experience that it didn't look or feel like 70 fps should. I also tried turning all the settings to minimum to get the highest fps which was ~160 fps FG on and it didn't look or feel different than FG off 80 fps.

Wondering if this implementation is broken or the feature is not effective. Gonna wait for some YouTube videos that have actual capture cards (my AMD encoder not very good) and can do a better examination of the technology.

[Arokhantos]

Pariwak の投稿を引用：

I tried the Forspoken demo FSR3 on my 5700 XT and a 240 hz monitor. It feels to me like FG is doing nothing at all except make the fps number higher.

I compared 60 fps FG off and 70 fps FG on (I changed the graphics settings to try and match the fps between the two, the settings I used for FG on is ~38 fps if I turned FG off) and the "real" 60 fps FG off looked and felt much smoother. I recorded a video of walking no mouse input and counted 38 distinct frames over 1 second of footage with "70 fps" FG on. I also tried turning all the settings to minimum to get the highest fps which was ~160 fps FG on and it didn't look or feel different than FG off 80 fps.

Wondering if this implementation is broken or the feature is not effective.

Kind of reminds me of Catherine game that claimed to be unlocked framerate reporting 300 fps but feeling like 30 fps.

[johnjunior23]

I tested it on my 4070ti, and truth to be told I'm a bit impressed by amd's implementation here. Sure fsr 3 can't match dlss power efficiency ( you actually save power by using dlss) and there's slight graphical glitches here and there but overall it's pretty decent.

If given the choice, i would still go with dlss but fsr 3 is not a bad option after all. Hopefully previous amd sponsored titles like re4 and tlou 1 remake will have this option in the future.

[o.ac]

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Arokhantos™ の投稿を引用：

50 fps no framegen feels like 50 fps with framegen must be just be me, not that impressed.

Need at least 60fps before turning on FSR3, otherwise the frame time will be terrible.

No frametimes are terrible either way, unless you limit fps externally.

[Bad.Valentine]

Running Ryzen 5700X and RTX 4070, I am quite impressed by this, and this is a great achievement for us games, So this are my observations:

- Excellent input lag compared to pretty much any DLSS3 game I have played, to add specifics here, CP2077, Warhammer 40k DT, Atomic Heart and Immortals of Aveum, with the latest two being an horrible experience on all fronts while DLSS FG was active.
- Quality is still lower than DLSS, and here I am comparing with DLSS2 in this game. Example looking at grass when moving the screen both FSR and DLSS is leaving artifacts, but AMD solution is slightly worse, but not by much. There is room for improvement it's definitely a better launch than DLSS which let's remember first DLSS3 FG games where unplayable due to artifacts
-I had no issues as severe as some make it to be with the erratic 99% FPS , little drops to mid 50's while in a while with the rest being above 80 all the time. which takes me to the conclusion that it's something that goes wrong with some users, drivers, Resizable BAR maybe,

To add more I played at 1440p

[BEEP!]

I messing around with it today for like an hr and I'm very happy with the results with my RX6800 with max setting FSR at quality with 0.20 sharpness and frame-gen at 3440x1440 it was almost always at 100fps lowest was 85fps it looked a lot better than I thought it was going to be it was to sharp at first but when lowered to 0.20 it looked very nice.

I really couldn't feel much of a difference in impute lag I am using anti-lag which is on by default for everything for me it felt like the impute was above 60fps which is perfect for me but looked like it was 100fps in smoothness for me.

When I played on a game-pad it was basically unnoticeable to me there wasn't any choppiness or stutters there was a very small amount of ghosting which i had to really look close to see and the shimmering was lot better than FSR2 in my opioion to the point I kinda forgot there was shimmering.

But overall I'm really looking forward for FSR3 to be in Cyberpunk, Starfield and hopefully Hogwarts and all upcoming game's from now on I'm blown away with how good FSR3 was i thought it was going to be a ♥♥♥♥ show.

[Pariwak]

I think I figured out my problem, FG does not work with VRR. I disabled FreeSync and now it seems that FG is working with VSync enabled.

[Arokhantos]

Pariwak の投稿を引用：

I think I figured out my problem, FG does not work with VRR. I disabled FreeSync and now it seems that FG is working with VSync enabled.

That is very odd with the fluid motion preview driver it says it works best with Freesync enabled, ofcourse it will frame double outside freesync range in my case but even then fluid motion been overall smoother then FSR3 in Forspoken
So perhaps i need to retest Forspoken, im willing to bet if this is indeed case they auto configure freesync to be turned off or work with FSR3 in future drivers if not the preview drivers, since Fluid Motion works better so far.

[BEEP!]

Pariwak の投稿を引用：

I think I figured out my problem, FG does not work with VRR. I disabled FreeSync and now it seems that FG is working with VSync enabled.

Strange it works for me with freesyce on?

[Pariwak]

1080puktra の投稿を引用：

Strange it works for me with freesyce on?

After I finished playing around in Forspoken to experience FG, I turned back on FreeSync. I read this comment so I launched the game again. FG was still working but my FreeSync is on. Then I disabled Vsync in game and as expected it stops working. But then I enabled Vsync again and it's not working.

So it did work for me with FreeSync on and Vsync on at the same time until I toggled Vsync off then back on and now it's not working anymore with FreeSync on. I'm gonna assume it's one of those finicky implementation details of the software and my hardware that someone with much more technical knowledge than me could figure out.

[BEEP!]

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1080puktra の投稿を引用：

Strange it works for me with freesyce on?

After I finished playing around in Forspoken to experience FG, I turned back on FreeSync. I read this comment so I launched the game again. FG was still working but my FreeSync is on. Then I disabled Vsync in game and as expected it stops working. But then I enabled Vsync again and it's not working.

So it did work for me with FreeSync on and Vsync on at the same time until I toggled Vsync off then back on and now it's not working anymore with FreeSync on. I'm gonna assume it's one of those finicky implementation details of the software and my hardware that someone with much more technical knowledge than me could figure out.

The only thing I did was i always have Freesynce on and I turned on Vsync before I used FG and I never turned off Vsync because I remembered a while back it was recommended to have Vsync on for FSR3 FG.

[Arokhantos]

1080puktra の投稿を引用：

Pariwak の投稿を引用：

I think I figured out my problem, FG does not work with VRR. I disabled FreeSync and now it seems that FG is working with VSync enabled.

Strange it works for me with freesyce on?

With freesync enabled it supose to lock refresh rate at max bassicly not engage freesync i believe that does not happen for me either but it tries to.

[valcan_s]

Pariwak の投稿を引用：

I think I figured out my problem, FG does not work with VRR. I disabled FreeSync and now it seems that FG is working with VSync enabled.

Cool, yeah for some reason it does not like FreeSync or VRR i have those off as well. Also for me the FSR 3 setting: Native AA : just breaks everything in terms of sync and it looks like it is 20 FPS or 30 and makes my eyes bleed. The FSR 3 : Quality : plus frame generation on is the best setting and mega smooth!

Glad you figured it out, I should have posted those details and to keep Vsync = On in the options.

[בתאניה]

I get an insane boost in FPS at 4k maxed settings with RT enabled with FSR3 Quality + Frame gen, 138 average FPS. From 53FPS at native. With a 7900XTX. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr6fe3QWyEk

[Keys]

I heard the demo had frame gen so I tried it. I'm impressed so far. At 1080p, now I can use RT and I'm getting 75-100 fps. I had to activate Vsync though, the frametime was all over the place without it but with vsync on, it's butter smooth, The image is sharp, better than in other games in which I tried FSR, even version 2 at quality setting. There's no artifacts on the landscape camera movements but there's a slight blur around the character when I turn the camera. It's very subtle and I don't notice it when I don't look at her. I hope lots of games implement it.

The 2060 Super is more than enough in 99% of games at 1080p, I max out almost every games at 60+ fps but I have a 170hz monitor, so, bring on the fps boost, I'll take it. I don't understand why the game is so hated. Yes the main character is not likeable, the way she talks is a bit irritating (like a frustated blue hairs feminist, she sounds like Alloy in Horizon...great game but the main character...not likeable) but the gameplay is pretty fun and her magics are cool. Plus, it loads saved games almost instantly on my gen 3 nvme. It's crazy fast. I LOVE direct storage.

1080p 170hz monitor
RTX 2060 Super OC'd quite a bit
Ryzen 5 5600X @4.5 Ghz on all cores
32 GB of 3200mhz DDR4