Worth It Yet?

[The Onyx Tiger]

TL;DR

Is Company of Heroes 3 worth it for a casual experience against AI in Skirmish only? Don't care about visuals or anything like that. Just like to play until I'm bored then stop.

Edit:
Don't care about the visuals, sounds, bugs (within reason), etc. Grew up on console, so.. I know Company of Heroes 2 is currently superior and more polished/refined than Company of Heroes 3, but I'm not looking for a perfect instalment. I suppose I'm more asking about the things that are new compared to the second game, such as AI (on Easy and Standard), doctrines, the campaign (on Easy), Tactical Pause, and other small mechanics like transporting AT Guns.

I played the free weekend a few months ago and some of the doctrines were free at the time and I did very much enjoy Australia.

Original Post

I loved Company of Heroes 2, but only ever played it by myself. Casually. I'd enable the Cheat Commands mod whether I used it or not, selected 'No Win Condition', and just sandboxed until I got bored. Maybe the match would last 3 hours or 30 minutes. I just wanted to mess around. When I was done I either ALT+F4'd or main menu'd and started a new sandbox.

When I heard Company of Heroes 3 was announced, I was so excited. I heard before that it would never happen. I played the public tests and enjoyed the experience, but didn't really do much for the campaign, but definitely want to try the idea. I just don't really play campaigns for RTSs, just Skirmish with AI.

The game released.. well.. skipskipskip.

I want to know if Company of Heroes 3 is worth it for what I'm looking for.

• Casual experience
  
• Skirmish AI only
  
• Easy or Standard AI
  
• Sandbox

Is the campaign worth checking out? I'd likely play it on Easy. Don't typically play RTS campaigns because the scripted difficulties eventually get too hard for me. Only RTS campaign I ever finished was Command and Conquer: Generals: Zero Hour's campaigns (US, GLA, and China).

Finally, does Tactical Pause work in singleplayer Skirmish? I forget.

[Lynx]

For casual skrimish games its definately worth it I would say. You can really enjoy the improved graphics and animations, by not having the stress of playing against real opponents.

[Lotor13]

Originally posted by Lynx:

For casual skrimish games its definately worth it I would say. You can really enjoy the improved graphics and animations, by not having the stress of playing against real opponents.

+1

[Tiger 131]

coh 2 still the better, more polished and less buggy. voicing and sound much...much better too.
still far behind is 3.
only decent thing is the graphics got to say.

[Lotor13]

Originally posted by sturmgeschutz:

coh 2 still the better, more polished and less buggy. voicing and sound much...much better too.
still far behind is 3.
only decent thing is the graphics got to say.

False.

CoH3 is superior to CoH2 already.
CoH2 just have more content (5 nations, more maps)

[The Onyx Tiger]

I don't care about the visuals or sounds, perhaps even the bugs too if they're not super noticable or gamebreaking.

I grew up on console so things don't need to be perfect, just want to have fun.

[Hussarius®]

I think you're gonna have a lot of fun playing CoH3. Based on what you're asking about, I believe you'll have a great time doing the campaigns, skirmish, co-op vs AI, and messing around with mods. Pretty sure there's mods that allow you to increase pop cap, advanced AI options, additional custom maps, and so on.

[The Onyx Tiger]

Originally posted by Hussarius®:

Thanks for the reply!

The author of the Cheat Commands mod created one for Company of Heroes 3 as well, so if I were to buy the game I can definitely play how I want.

Just worried about wasting my money on a game I won't enjoy. It's heavily discounted, so I MIGHT pick it up.. Just want to hear some other singleplayer-focused player testimonies. :)

[Lotor13]

Originally posted by The Onyx Tiger:

Just worried about wasting my money on a game I won't enjoy. It's heavily discounted, so I MIGHT pick it up.. Just want to hear some other singleplayer-focused player testimonies. :)

Well, if You like skirmish in previous CoH2 or CoH1, You would like CoH3, it is same gameplay formula, just adjusted and bit improved. Just watch random Youtube video with CoH3 skirmish game.

Originally posted by The Onyx Tiger:

Finally, does Tactical Pause work in singleplayer Skirmish? I forget.

The Active Pause works in CoH1 and CoH2 skirmish,
CoH3 extended this feature, You can set multiple commands

This is official video for demonstration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPMkSt7AfMA

[Effinae]

Originally posted by The Onyx Tiger:

I don't care about the visuals or sounds, perhaps even the bugs too if they're not super noticable or gamebreaking.

I grew up on console so things don't need to be perfect, just want to have fun.

There aren't any bugs. You can't listen to people whining on the forums about supposed bugs that they are ALWAYS vague about.

[KPSoulReaper]

for Vanilla skirmish/MP---> NO
for Vanilla Single Player Campaign---> Maybe
for Modding skirmish/MP---> YES

Spearhead 3 & RGT gamemode (Realism Game Tuner: AI, Units, Vehicles, Gamemodes)
The Combination of these two provide a blast of an experience; I already have over 700 hours into CoH 3 AI gameplay---> so YES ;)

Sadly not as many maps as CoH 1 or 2 / this will take time.
Skins---> please Relic, do what Dota 2 does and provide an incentive for community creations.


I can give the settings I use to anyone interested for the RGT Mode to properly match the Spearhead 3 Mod. The settings I use for provide a ton of fun for MP games as well.

[KPSoulReaper]

Originally posted by Lotor13:

Originally posted by sturmgeschutz:

coh 2 still the better, more polished and less buggy. voicing and sound much...much better too.
still far behind is 3.
only decent thing is the graphics got to say.

False.

CoH3 is superior to CoH2 already.
CoH2 just have more content (5 nations, more maps)

IMO and with My Viewpoint / You are both wrong.

CoH 3 has the Potential to be Better than CoH 2.
e.g.-----> Spearhead 3 mod & Realism Game Tuner

CoH 2 Vanilla and QoL still better than CoH 3 atm; will take time to catch up.
CoH 3 does have some cool new stuff like the no swearing option, the Units Icon Appearance (I love using Selected & Damaged.)

CoH 3 Vanilla is a spammy mess w/ Inferior CoH Mechanics atm.....

e.g.---> Paper Housing that can be destroyed with a spray cans. You're better off outside of buildings in heavy cover, it's a joke.

e.g.---> CoH 3 Suppression is mind numbing & lame, requiring more micro management constantly clicking back and forth between infantry squads.

e.g.---> Light Vehicles to the Rescue ( most recent patch addressed this Issue supposedly, feel free to check with Vanilla fans, some are already crying because they can't spam the "Superman Cheap Light Vehicles anymore.)

e.g.---> Faster Matches that feel even more spammy
I can understand both sides, but with CoH 3 the skirmish and MP matches can be over very quickly (about 20-25 mins) compared to the CoH 2 (most of the time more like 45 mins to an hour) game length experience.

The "Spearhead 3" & "RGT gamemode" Combination fixes all of the Issues I've stated above for me, which is why I have over 700 hours in CoH 3 already; lots of fun because of the fantastic job these Gents are doing.

To each their own, but the Keyword (In my humble opinion): Potential

[IIBADBUNNYII]

Buy it if u have the money, was COH 2 better, YES! TALES OF VALOR, YES! At least its not PADAY 3 I mean it could be worse or a ubisoft game. U need to ad 14 bucks extra if u want to enjoy the game, Ranger battlegroup.