HELLCAT

[PADDY MAIN S.A.S]

It seems to me that the hellcat is under powered for its cost. The Bulldozer is great for taking out infantry, but the hellcat is supposed to be a tank destroyer, but its knock out ability is low. Even the standard Sherman is low ability. The easy eight is the only tank that has a punch. I think the Hellcat requires upgrade or decrease in fuel for its performance. I will admit it improves once it has veteran status.

[76561199369698173]

Really? Learning the game units is usually better before saying they underperform or overperform on their role.
Taking into account youre saying a ez8 hits "harder" than a hellcat makes no sense and shows you actually dont know the information about the unit.

[PADDY MAIN S.A.S]

I do not need to be told about learning the statistics of game units as I have all the information to hand.

M18 Hellcat Tank Destroyer's 76mm 160 Pen

But it may have the pen, but it still does not perform as I state. Maybe it is because of RNG and getting bad calls. In any event in my opinion it does not perform well.

As regard E8 read what I state and do not make up theories as to what I have not stated.

[76561199369698173]

Originally posted by 7th:

I do not need to be told about learning the statistics of game units as I have all the information to hand.

M18 Hellcat Tank Destroyer's 76mm 160 Pen

But it may have the pen, but it still does not perform as I state. Maybe it is because of RNG and getting bad calls. In any event in my opinion it does not perform well.

As regard E8 read what I state and do not make up theories as to what I have not stated.

Again, you have no clue about the units and it shows.
No its simply that you dont know how the game works or how said unit works nothing else.
Yes you did, its what you do everytime you post on both coh2 and coh3, what idk is why.

[Pottatow]

Yeah Hellcat is SUPER strong man they absolutely shred tanks like the P4 and Panther. Why? The Hellcat speed is basically double once you get enough they just eat Wehrmacht armor alive charging through AT without a care. Only counter to them is mines.

[PADDY MAIN S.A.S]

Originally posted by JASONNN:

Originally posted by 7th:

I do not need to be told about learning the statistics of game units as I have all the information to hand.

M18 Hellcat Tank Destroyer's 76mm 160 Pen

But it may have the pen, but it still does not perform as I state. Maybe it is because of RNG and getting bad calls. In any event in my opinion it does not perform well.

As regard E8 read what I state and do not make up theories as to what I have not stated.

Again, you have no clue about the units and it shows.
No its simply that you dont know how the game works or how said unit works nothing else.
Yes you did, its what you do everytime you post on both coh2 and coh3, what idk is why.

Here we go again, usual explanation, condemnation a player even tho the explanation given is not valid. Another COH2 MIGRANT, who thinks he knows all, and players know absolutely nothing..

It appears pointless bringing up a topic, whereby this person has misconception of a player and further cannot read what is stated and then jumps to conclusions.

End of topic.

[76561199369698173]

Originally posted by 7th:

Originally posted by JASONNN:

Again, you have no clue about the units and it shows.
No its simply that you dont know how the game works or how said unit works nothing else.
Yes you did, its what you do everytime you post on both coh2 and coh3, what idk is why.

Here we go again, usual explanation, condemnation a player even tho the explanation given is not valid. Another COH2 MIGRANT, who thinks he knows all, and players know absolutely nothing..

It appears pointless bringing up a topic, whereby this person has misconception of a player and further cannot read what is stated and then jumps to conclusions.

End of topic.

Its not that your explanation aint valid wich it is not valid, its that you dont know anything about the unit to say what its capable off or what it is for. It takes like 2 minutes max to search it up but from coh to coh3 its clear you cant do that.

[AtlasRedux]

Originally posted by 7th:

Here we go again, usual explanation, condemnation a player even tho the explanation given is not valid. Another COH2 MIGRANT, who thinks he knows all, and players know absolutely nothing..

Yet another post by 7th where the issue is, as always, that he simply does not understand anything about how the game works. I am staggered that after all this time, he still hasn't bothered to sit down and read actual facts on how the games works, but keeps spouting nonsense time after time.
Everyone, from casuals to elite players have told you countless times that you have zero understanding of how the games work. You need to stop living in your strange little world where you think the entire world is wrong and you're the only one that is right. You're literally one of the worst players ever to have played CoH and do not understand the simplest mechanics. We have told you this. So many times. Everyone has. It's time to wake up and stop thinking you're the best player in the world and know everything, when literally everyone is trying to tell you you're insanely wrong, every time.

But we know you won't change. Because every time we point out how amazingly wrong you are, you just go "REEEEE, YOU'RE ALL IGNORANT, REEEEEE, I KNOW BEST!"

[PADDY MAIN S.A.S]

Originally posted by JASONNN:

Originally posted by 7th:

Here we go again, usual explanation, condemnation a player even tho the explanation given is not valid. Another COH2 MIGRANT, who thinks he knows all, and players know absolutely nothing..

It appears pointless bringing up a topic, whereby this person has misconception of a player and further cannot read what is stated and then jumps to conclusions.

End of topic.

Its not that your explanation aint valid wich it is not valid, its that you dont know anything about the unit to say what its capable off or what it is for. It takes like 2 minutes max to search it up but from coh to coh3 its clear you cant do that.

Of course I know what each unit is for. I am not going to use a Chaffee tank or a Helcat to kill infantry. They are both for armour. This is your misconception and none understanding of topics.?

[Homer]

I main US and I say that it is fine, Hellcat speed is make up for it damage.

You not meant to 1v1 US tank with German tanks, US tanks is about the numbers, so when you pair it up in a group of 3-4 tanks with Sherman or Sher-Bulldozer the whole tanks group are unstoppable.

[Private twinkle toe 1010011]

Originally posted by JASONNN:

Taking into account you're saying a ez8 hits "harder" than a hellcat makes no sense and shows you actually don't know the information about the unit.

This sole sentence summarizes the whole ordeal in this thread: OP knows very little about the game.
For those who don't know, hellcat 76mm deals 40 more damage per shot, has at least 20 more pen, and, per minute, fires 1 shot quicker than the one on E8. It's better across the board against armored target.

[PADDY MAIN S.A.S]

Originally posted by I Wonder Why:

I main US and I say that it is fine, Hellcat speed is make up for it damage.

You not meant to 1v1 US tank with German tanks, US tanks is about the numbers, so when you pair it up in a group of 3-4 tanks with Sherman or Sher-Bulldozer the whole tanks group are unstoppable.

I agree, and have adopted that strategy, it does not always work depending on what you are up against.

Speed of Hellcat is fine and durable.

[PADDY MAIN S.A.S]

Originally posted by Private twinkle toe 1010011:

Originally posted by JASONNN:

Taking into account you're saying a ez8 hits "harder" than a hellcat makes no sense and shows you actually don't know the information about the unit.

This sole sentence summarizes the whole ordeal in this thread: OP knows very little about the game.
For those who don't know, hellcat 76mm deals 40 more damage per shot, has at least 20 more pen, and, per minute, fires 1 shot quicker than the one on E8. It's better across the board against armored target.

So you looked it up or read the point above. Does not mean OP knows little about the game. The problem with these threads are that people do not read or digest them, they just jump to conclusions. I know what a Hellcat and an E eight can do. The point I made was that in my view the Hellcat even with its gun and speed appeared to be under par. As regards the E eight, again it appeared it had a better punch, and that could be, because its HP is far better compared to Hellcat. I do not need people calling out misconstrued points on a topic that was an enquiry.

[Private twinkle toe 1010011]

Originally posted by 7th:

So you looked it up or read the point above

No. I looked up CoH3 stat website, then comment.

Originally posted by 7th:

Does not mean OP knows little about the game.

How exactly? You couldn't even get the fact right. That shows how little you know compared to someone who DOESN'T EVEN OWN THE GAME.

Originally posted by 7th:

The problem with these threads are that people do not read or digest them, they just jump to conclusions.

Provable BS.
You claimed only E8 has a punch, when it's not.
Then the number guy(sorry I couldn't bother to ctrl+C ctrl+V) called out your nonsense.
I go on to check the CoH3 stat website to see if it's true, which it is.
You then go to call everyone jumped to conclusion because "they didn't read" BS.
Just stop while you're behind.

Originally posted by 7th:

I know what a Hellcat and an E eight can do.

See above.

Originally posted by 7th:

As regards the E eight, again it appeared it had a better punch, and that could be, because its HP is far better compared to Hellcat.

No, you Dunning-Kruger I-word. Better punch means you punch harder, punch faster, or land fists where it hurt more accurately, not tanking blow after blow. Hellcat does better than E8 in every regard of "better punch".
What you're looking for is "prolonged DPS under fire" aka "A-move with no micro whatsoever and sit there just to take hits". There, hellcat might be worse, but why would you do that with hellcat in the first place?

Originally posted by 7th:

I do not need people calling out misconstrued points on a topic that was an inquiry.

It's not misconstruing someone's point. It's calling out lie and BS.
You know nothing and act like you're god in the game.

[PADDY MAIN S.A.S]

Originally posted by Private twinkle toe 1010011:

Originally posted by 7th:

So you looked it up or read the point above

No. I looked up CoH3 stat website, then comment.

Originally posted by 7th:

Does not mean OP knows little about the game.

How exactly? You couldn't even get the fact right. That shows how little you know compared to someone who DOESN'T EVEN OWN THE GAME.

Originally posted by 7th:

The problem with these threads are that people do not read or digest them, they just jump to conclusions.

Provable BS.
You claimed only E8 has a punch, when it's not.
Then the number guy(sorry I couldn't bother to ctrl+C ctrl+V) called out your nonsense.
I go on to check the CoH3 stat website to see if it's true, which it is.
You then go to call everyone jumped to conclusion because "they didn't read" BS.
Just stop while you're behind.

Originally posted by 7th:

I know what a Hellcat and an E eight can do.

See above.

Originally posted by 7th:

As regards the E eight, again it appeared it had a better punch, and that could be, because its HP is far better compared to Hellcat.

No, you Dunning-Kruger I-word. Better punch means you punch harder, punch faster, or land fists where it hurt more accurately, not tanking blow after blow. Hellcat does better than E8 in every regard of "better punch".
What you're looking for is "prolonged DPS under fire" aka "A-move with no micro whatsoever and sit there just to take hits". There, hellcat might be worse, but why would you do that with hellcat in the first place?

Originally posted by 7th:

I do not need people calling out misconstrued points on a topic that was an inquiry.

1. Exactly you looked it up. That's my point. Look it up and quote, even tho you do not understand it yourself. Easy when you have facts directly and then just quote away.

2. What are you babbling about. The point I made was due to its durability as stated it performs better.

3. No I do not sit there giving fire as the turret on the Hellcat performs on the move and can target while doing so. In any event this was not brought up. So what is your point.?

4. Well if some one does not own the game why then are they on the forum, judging others.

[Grumpy]

It would be nice if the Hellcat had more range. I haven't checked since the previous patch but it was 45, which limits its usefulness. I normally get just one and will use it to chase down wounded tanks, sometimes including Tigers. The speed is nice in that it can often back out of a bad engagement, and often can dive a wounded tank and get back out alive.