Game will have Denuvo

[zibi_PL]

Game will have Denuvo.

https://store.steampowered.com/eula/2245830_eula_0

[Bendy52]

DANG IT. hopefully it dont ♥♥♥♥ the performance drastically.

[Wazii]

Dam it. I had pre loaded it and everything... I guess I'll wait until it launches leave a negative review saying it as denuvo and refund it. Steam/GOG and other platformed basically killed piracy by drawing the masses away from it. Now companies are all jumping on anti piracy because so few people try to hack the games. I feel like we're going to go full circle and have a surge in piracy in the near future.

[ChuTheMan]

SEGA published game having Denuvo, in other news.. Water is wet.

[Rogbarz]

Denuvo impacts the performance little to not at all. If you have a decent system you will not even notice it. But in the end, if it's such a deal breaker for you --> best not to buy it

[Cyphid01]

I won't get it before they remove it.. which they should eventually if they have any iota of sense.

[Grizz_FMJ]

Originally posted by Wazii:

Dam it. I had pre loaded it and everything... I guess I'll wait until it launches leave a negative review saying it as denuvo and refund it. Steam/GOG and other platformed basically killed piracy by drawing the masses away from it. Now companies are all jumping on anti piracy because so few people try to hack the games. I feel like we're going to go full circle and have a surge in piracy in the near future.

You are 100% the issue with games being ♥♥♥♥ on that are otherwise good. Bad review bc denuvo ? Maybe do research and see Sega uses it a lot. What a chump.

[Wazii]

Originally posted by Rogbarz:

Denuvo impacts the performance little to not at all. If you have a decent system you will not even notice it. But in the end, if it's such a deal breaker for you --> best not to buy it

I don't intentionally play games with denuvo. it a core principle of mine. You want to add shady crappy junk that worsen the game experience for paying customers and makes it better for pirates then so be it. I'm just going to ignore your game. It's just frustrating because this is the third game this month that i was looking forward too that got ruined by it.

[Wazii]

Originally posted by Grizz_FMJ:

Originally posted by Wazii:

Dam it. I had pre loaded it and everything... I guess I'll wait until it launches leave a negative review saying it as denuvo and refund it. Steam/GOG and other platformed basically killed piracy by drawing the masses away from it. Now companies are all jumping on anti piracy because so few people try to hack the games. I feel like we're going to go full circle and have a surge in piracy in the near future.

You are 100% the issue with games being ♥♥♥♥ on that are otherwise good. Bad review bc denuvo ? Maybe do research and see Sega uses it a lot. What a chump.

Denuvo mostly increases load times, introduces stutter and frame drops on high end hardware. on low end hardware it lowers the framerate significantly on top of the other two issues.

Most other bugs people attribute to it may or may not be it fault. It's hard to prove because we rarely get to play the same version without it as when it does have it. MHW is one of the fiew semi modern games that such a version match can be found and it was a rather stable game to begin with. Denuvo denies it even uses any resources at all. That untrue by it very nature. So their claims that it can't cause bugs makes me skeptical. However. I don't think any of the issues this game as is from Denuvo. TBH I purchased this game a few hours ago for a reason.

Issue with privacy is already hard to say if it true or not. No one knows what info it collects and what it sends. Could be almost nothing. Or it could be way more then it needed.

Then there's the issue of some parts of it (may or may not be active but usually is) requires a online connection to play single player offline.

Oh almost forgot the limited hardware swap or install count, Denuvo limits how many times you can swap hardware parts out of your computer or how many machines you can install it on before completely locking you out of a game you paid for. It not a "You can only run it on one machine at a time" kind of limit. More like. You upgrade your computer too often or swap between laptop/steamdeck/PC and did a few upgrade kind of f*** Y**.

Game developers rarely remove denuvo even when the game is cracked. This means that eventually you'll run into the issue where you'll lose your access to it for the above reason or B, you'll lose access to your game if their server ever goes down.

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Service kills piracy. Netflix reduced piracy by nearly 50% when it had a monopoly because it was a convenient one stop shop for videos. When all the other companies propped up making their content exclusive forcing people to sign up to 30 different services it surged back up.

CD projekt made poland go from a country where piracy was the norm to one where most people buy their software by simply providing a superior service.
Steam did the same to russia, and is likely the driving force behind the global PC game piracy rate dropping. easy install one stop shop for just about any game. Mods at the fingertip. It remembers your old mods for you. It saves your saves. Easy to find forums without having to make new accounts, easy access to the DLC or w/e. How can pirates compete with that as long as the prices are fair and people can afford them?

[Grizz_FMJ]

Originally posted by Wazii:

Originally posted by Grizz_FMJ:

You are 100% the issue with games being ♥♥♥♥ on that are otherwise good. Bad review bc denuvo ? Maybe do research and see Sega uses it a lot. What a chump.

Denuvo mostly increases load times, introduces stutter and frame drops on high end hardware. on low end hardware it lowers the framerate significantly on top of the other two issues.

Most other bugs people attribute to it may or may not be it fault. It's hard to prove because we rarely get to play the same version without it as when it does have it. MHW is one of the fiew semi modern games that such a version match can be found and it was a rather stable game to begin with. Denuvo denies it even uses any resources at all. That untrue by it very nature. So their claims that it can't cause bugs makes me skeptical. However. I don't think any of the issues this game as is from Denuvo. TBH I purchased this game a few hours ago for a reason.

Issue with privacy is already hard to say if it true or not. No one knows what info it collects and what it sends. Could be almost nothing. Or it could be way more then it needed.

Then there's the issue of some parts of it (may or may not be active but usually is) requires a online connection to play single player offline.

Oh almost forgot the limited hardware swap or install count, Denuvo limits how many times you can swap hardware parts out of your computer or how many machines you can install it on before completely locking you out of a game you paid for. It not a "You can only run it on one machine at a time" kind of limit. More like. You upgrade your computer too often or swap between laptop/steamdeck/PC and did a few upgrade kind of f*** Y**.

Game developers rarely remove denuvo even when the game is cracked. This means that eventually you'll run into the issue where you'll lose your access to it for the above reason or B, you'll lose access to your game if their server ever goes down.

**********
Service kills piracy. Netflix reduced piracy by nearly 50% when it had a monopoly because it was a convenient one stop shop for videos. When all the other companies propped up making their content exclusive forcing people to sign up to 30 different services it surged back up.

CD projekt made poland go from a country where piracy was the norm to one where most people buy their software by simply providing a superior service.
Steam did the same to russia, and is likely the driving force behind the global PC game piracy rate dropping. easy install one stop shop for just about any game. Mods at the fingertip. It remembers your old mods for you. It saves your saves. Easy to find forums without having to make new accounts, easy access to the DLC or w/e. How can pirates compete with that as long as the prices are fair and people can afford them?

I am not reading all that but I can assure you all will be fine. You are overreacting bud. Don't play it then.

[Grizz_FMJ]

Originally posted by 秋月レン| MP40:

so thats why coh2 runs like dog ****

No, COH 2 runs like crap because its 32bit. Even the 64bit update ran like crap bc it was an old engine.

[Wazii]

Originally posted by Grizz_FMJ:

Originally posted by Wazii:

I am not reading all that but I can assure you all will be fine. You are overreacting bud. Don't play it then.

TL DR is basically service kills piracy, not crippling your games with bloat. But yes. like I said I plan on refunding it after I leave a review tomorrow.

[Legolose]

Originally posted by zibi_PL:

Game will have Denuvo.

https://store.steampowered.com/eula/2245830_eula_0

So .... Whats the problem unless your trying to hack the game .. So ...

[Wazii]

Originally posted by Legolose:

Originally posted by zibi_PL:

Game will have Denuvo.

https://store.steampowered.com/eula/2245830_eula_0

So .... Whats the problem unless your trying to hack the game .. So ...

Denuvo is usually not used for anti cheat. It used for stopping kids from pirating it.

Denuvo may or may not spy on you. Denuvo limits how many times you can swap your computer parts or how many machines you can install the game on before it stops working. Denuvo usually requires a online connection to play. Denuvo usually makes loading times longer and introduces stutters on high end machines and lowers framerate by 1-5% while on lower end machines it tends to be significantly worse.

Denuvo may or may not cause other bugs. Even when the game is pirated so people can play it for free; denuvo is usually left in the purchased version. So when you do run through your limited hardware setup or if their servers ever go down or shut down you can't play anymore despite the fact you purchased the game.
EDIT: BY stutter I mean a drop in framecount for a small period of time. a spike.

[GtheMVP]

Was looking for this confirmation.

Denuvo = no sale from me, see you in a year boys.

[Antiga]

Where is the actual confirmation? The eula is a standard one for Sega, and states the product *may* have denuvo. It's not stated on the Store page that it will. Is there any official news on this?