gustatori beyond broken

[LOLwhat2]

not even ranger comes close to these guys

[LOLwhat2]

Cipher Esteria님이 먼저 게시:

LOLwhat2님이 먼저 게시:

gustatori recieved 2 armour buffs u moron you havent touched the game in months and dont play us. you know nothing except for the launch state of the game

But the Gustatori are now the same as they were at launch, only thing they don't have anymore is their anti-vehicle satchel.

Maybe play DAK and use them yourself, having one single light vehicle shut them down and them not being able to deal with Rangers effective should come back very soon.

no they are not having 1.5 armour multiplier is massive since they got 2 armour buffs. just reduce it to 1 this way they can still compete with ranger and wreck rifleman early but then you will be forced to be a bit smart with them after

[Cipher Esteria]

LOLwhat2님이 먼저 게시:

no they are not having 1.5 armour multiplier is massive since they got 2 armour buffs. just reduce it to 1 this way they can still compete with ranger and wreck rifleman early but then you will be forced to be a bit smart with them after

So whens the patch to change allied infantry to need "smart play"
Being able to A Move with basically everything and win isn't "smart" either.
Gustas had 1.5 armor on launch, that got nerfed, they have 1.5 now again.
They lose to ranger, can't deal with light vehicles or heavy ones and are expensive.

Riflemen should perform like Wehrmacht Grenadiers and IS should perform like Panzergrens and cost 300mp.
Wups guess now allies are unplayable since you can't just spam 1 unit and swamp the map with it.

[Katitoff]

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Katitoff님이 먼저 게시:

Gustatori were in game long before rangers and US players did just fine.
Equally skilled players of high elo have no problem with them.
Equally skilled players of low elo refuse to use counters, repeat counters do not exist and keep losing.

gustatori recieved 2 armour buffs u moron you havent touched the game in months and dont play us. you know nothing except for the launch state of the game

Why do you think they had to receive buffs?
Why is relic buffing units sometimes?
Do tell the class.

I'll give you a hint:
It has something to do with them underperforming.

[LOLwhat2]

Katitoff님이 먼저 게시:

LOLwhat2님이 먼저 게시:

gustatori recieved 2 armour buffs u moron you havent touched the game in months and dont play us. you know nothing except for the launch state of the game

Why do you think they had to receive buffs?
Why is relic buffing units sometimes?
Do tell the class.

I'll give you a hint:
It has something to do with them underperforming.

and sometimes these buffs are massive that they become the new problem such as flak truck from dak all im asking is to remove 1 armour buff not both. your acting like i want them to suck again

[Nightshade878]

Katitoff님이 먼저 게시:

Gustatori lose to rangers tho.
You need flamers to even stand a chance and you have to pray rangers won't have their own rangers or passive suppression etc through ranger training.

Gustatori are 3rd strongest AI elites atm, 1st one being ghurka rifles and 2nd being yes, you've guessed it, rangers and their beyond broken passive abilities with weapons.

Use the same counter as axis has to use against ghurkas, a vehicle.

Lol a vehicle doesnt even counter rangers cause they can move and fire zooks. And no, the RNG nature of their weapon drop is NOT an excuse or a balancing factor, you get enough rangers, youll have enough of each of hte weapons to A-Move any target.

[Nightshade878]

LOLwhat2님이 먼저 게시:

Katitoff님이 먼저 게시:

Gustatori lose to rangers tho.
You need flamers to even stand a chance and you have to pray rangers won't have their own rangers or passive suppression etc through ranger training.

Gustatori are 3rd strongest AI elites atm, 1st one being ghurka rifles and 2nd being yes, you've guessed it, rangers and their beyond broken passive abilities with weapons.

Use the same counter as axis has to use against ghurkas, a vehicle.

Actually rangers lose to gusrarori since armour buff with and without flame. And us mg is awful. They should revert armour right now you can just a attack them into anything even 2 bar rifleman and win without losing 3 models. I'm OK with them firing on the move just want a armour nerf

Ranger defeat Guasts in most situations. Axis dont need one of their only unambiguously decent units to be nerfed cause you suck

[LOLwhat2]

Nightshade878님이 먼저 게시:

LOLwhat2님이 먼저 게시:

Actually rangers lose to gusrarori since armour buff with and without flame. And us mg is awful. They should revert armour right now you can just a attack them into anything even 2 bar rifleman and win without losing 3 models. I'm OK with them firing on the move just want a armour nerf

Ranger defeat Guasts in most situations. Axis dont need one of their only unambiguously decent units to be nerfed cause you suck

more like majority of the challenger community agrees with me. most people dont go rangers in 1vs1 in challenger anyways since there easily shut down in the early game you need the vet 3 to make them rlly scary. so when forced to fight gus with rifleman and the other nonsense dak has you see the problem. but hey maybe isnce you only play team games at a low elo you dont know anything

[Cipher Esteria]

LOLwhat2님이 먼저 게시:

more like majority of the challenger community agrees with me. most people dont go rangers in 1vs1 in challenger anyways since there easily shut down in the early game you need the vet 3 to make them rlly scary. so when forced to fight gus with rifleman and the other nonsense dak has you see the problem. but hey maybe isnce you only play team games at a low elo you dont know anything

Who agrees with you?
An echo chamber of other allied mains?

Pro Player have been saying DAK wasn't very good in the last patch, they had a couple of crutches that let them get their game going.
The Winrates for Axis are somewhere on the bottom of the ocean, while the Allies run around with something way worse than the last 2 Updates where Axis were supposedly broken.

Ranger take huge amounts of work to shut down for a unit that can just run at all it's problems and beat them with no effort in every engagement.

If USF is to difficult for you just play UKF, you can roll your face on the keyboard and still win every engagement.

[LOLwhat2]

Cipher Esteria님이 먼저 게시:

LOLwhat2님이 먼저 게시:

more like majority of the challenger community agrees with me. most people dont go rangers in 1vs1 in challenger anyways since there easily shut down in the early game you need the vet 3 to make them rlly scary. so when forced to fight gus with rifleman and the other nonsense dak has you see the problem. but hey maybe isnce you only play team games at a low elo you dont know anything

Who agrees with you?
An echo chamber of other allied mains?

Pro Player have been saying DAK wasn't very good in the last patch, they had a couple of crutches that let them get their game going.
The Winrates for Axis are somewhere on the bottom of the ocean, while the Allies run around with something way worse than the last 2 Updates where Axis were supposedly broken.

Ranger take huge amounts of work to shut down for a unit that can just run at all it's problems and beat them with no effort in every engagement.

If USF is to difficult for you just play UKF, you can roll your face on the keyboard and still win every engagement.

every player/commentator from the recent regicide cup agrees theyre to tanky and if you fall behind on fuel game a little before they come out it already gg. us has no comeback tools if they dont go ranger

[Cipher Esteria]

LOLwhat2님이 먼저 게시:

every player/commentator from the recent regicide cup agrees theyre to tanky and if you fall behind on fuel game a little before they come out it already gg. us has no comeback tools if they dont go ranger

You mean the Meta Ranger who beat every single Unit in the game, are borderline unkillable and beat Gustatori, while also having direct ways to ignore the few ways you could combat them?
Yes very difficult.

US has become even more braindead since the last patch, now you just run around with Ranger and delete all your problems.
Every match I've seen commentators are having a party if Allies get beaten, with how braindead broken and easy to cheese with they are right now.

But yes, lets nerf the last good Units DAK has to make it even easier for allies to just roflstomp them.

[LOLwhat2]

Cipher Esteria님이 먼저 게시:

LOLwhat2님이 먼저 게시:

every player/commentator from the recent regicide cup agrees theyre to tanky and if you fall behind on fuel game a little before they come out it already gg. us has no comeback tools if they dont go ranger

You mean the Meta Ranger who beat every single Unit in the game, are borderline unkillable and beat Gustatori, while also having direct ways to ignore the few ways you could combat them?
Yes very difficult.

US has become even more braindead since the last patch, now you just run around with Ranger and delete all your problems.
Every match I've seen commentators are having a party if Allies get beaten, with how braindead broken and easy to cheese with they are right now.

But yes, lets nerf the last good Units DAK has to make it even easier for allies to just roflstomp them.

ranger is different why do u think we didnt see a single player in the round of 16 go ranger. they know that at challenger level they are so ez to shut down with mgs and you cant make more than 2 manpower wise or else no tanks. reducing amrour by .5 with still make them rlly tanky to bars just not unkillable. you just dont know anything.

[Cipher Esteria]

LOLwhat2님이 먼저 게시:

ranger is different why do u think we didnt see a single player in the round of 16 go ranger. they know that at challenger level they are so ez to shut down with mgs and you cant make more than 2 manpower wise or else no tanks. reducing amrour by .5 with still make them rlly tanky to bars just not unkillable. you just dont know anything.

I watch enough High Level matches and Ranger pop up in 9/10 USF matches, usually asap and usually they just run around and are hard to stop by anything.

MGs are only working if the USF player doesn't know how to use the Ranger.
They have a "ignore suppression" Button, Cover to Cover and the doctrin comes with a "remove Team Weapon from game" barrage.

Add to that that Rangers get every debuff in existance.

So you want to remove Gustas armor. 1.0 is standard, 1.5 is heavy body armor.
You essentialy want them to be easaly killable and remove them from the game again.
They can make that change once Riflemen and Ranger have 80HP without their upgrades.

[spaghetti671]

and make rangers at least 2 or more CP cause, those things for their lethality and versatility come out possibly way too early, even gusas at 2 CP mean that every one can grab an MG which actually stays a counter vs guasas because they have smoke but no other way around MGs, like ignore suppression. and are vastly less versatile than rangers in general

[Nightshade878]

spaghetti671님이 먼저 게시:

and make rangers at least 2 or more CP cause, those things for their lethality and versatility come out possibly way too early, even gusas at 2 CP mean that every one can grab an MG which actually stays a counter vs guasas because they have smoke but no other way around MGs, like ignore suppression. and are vastly less versatile than rangers in general

It baffles me that rangers are so easy to unlock when Guastatori are 2cp. And why the hell does the Breda upgrade for Bersaglieri STILL cost 2cp when you only get one gun?? Especially in the age of Rangers who can get a ridiculous amount of guns, there's no justification for either the Nerf to the Bersaglieri's breda upgrade, OR the fact that it costs 2cp to get one breda that you have to pay for on each unit anyway

[LOLwhat2]

Nightshade878님이 먼저 게시:

spaghetti671님이 먼저 게시:

and make rangers at least 2 or more CP cause, those things for their lethality and versatility come out possibly way too early, even gusas at 2 CP mean that every one can grab an MG which actually stays a counter vs guasas because they have smoke but no other way around MGs, like ignore suppression. and are vastly less versatile than rangers in general

It baffles me that rangers are so easy to unlock when Guastatori are 2cp. And why the hell does the Breda upgrade for Bersaglieri STILL cost 2cp when you only get one gun?? Especially in the age of Rangers who can get a ridiculous amount of guns, there's no justification for either the Nerf to the Bersaglieri's breda upgrade, OR the fact that it costs 2cp to get one breda that you have to pay for on each unit anyway

there a good reason why its 2 cp you dont pay anything us have to spend 40 fuel to get bar