Is the American faction just insanely OP or a very low learning curve?

[Jakerfv]

Put about 45 hours in the game, 30 of which is Afrika Corps. I feel like none of the doctrines worked very well except for the one with Dual Flamers and the Defensive Artillery. When I started using that doctrine, I started to win games but I still have issues mid game with anti-tank. I just felt that Americans are better prepared than you are. Puma Micro was tricky in COH 2 but the alternative here is useless unless you play defensively (Afrika Corps first, non-doctrine, anti-tank, tank, can only fire in the direction its facing) and Anti-tank weapon crews feel less useful due to how all the tanks handle better than in COH 2. I feel like I can't win games sometimes because I just don't know what tool I'm supposed to use to counter Americans...

And speaking of Americans, I finally gave them a shot. After 3 games i learned everything I need to do and Axis players almost don't even stand a chance and I haven't even so much as built 2 of the 4 buildings I have available to me. I am completely destroying them because the doctrines feel more useful and their infantry can be outfitted with AT, long before tanks show up. Late game can be a bit difficult against Wehrmacht if you spend too much manpower on your forces and have high upkeep due to spamming infantry (they can get a few Panzer IVs out which are nice tanks) but after those initial 3 games I played like 4-5 more and I haven't lost a single match and it's always been by a landslide.

[Demonic Spoon]

There is more than likely something about the DAK playstyle you're not getting. Given how asymmetrical the factions are it's natural to have an easier time with one or the other. In CoH2 for a long time I was terrible as Wehrmacht and Brits but did great with OKW or USF, for example.

DAK does have a pretty high learning curve, probably higher than USF, but they don't struggle in general. In fact, DAK players win games a higher percentage of the time than USF players in 1v1 (source: https://coh3stats.com/stats/games?from=2023-12-12&to=now). The difference gets significantly bigger in team games.

It sounds like USF jells with your playstyle in a way that DAK doesn't. On the AT front, DAK has Marders which are incredibly strong, but certainly used very differently than something like AT guns or chaffees or bazookas.

If you're not sure what you could be missing, I'd wait until you lose against DAK as USF and watch the replay from their perspective to see what they did.

[Blopa]

The ranger infantry is the most infamous thing I have seen in this game. high level of attack and resistance. a single infantry can do a lot of damage before escaping to the base. And not to mention the air attack spamming, there are games where they have launched 5 continuous air attacks on me.

[Jakerfv]

Originally posted by Blopa:

The ranger infantry is the most infamous thing I have seen in this game. high level of attack and resistance. a single infantry can do a lot of damage before escaping to the base. And not to mention the air attack spamming, there are games where they have launched 5 continuous air attacks on me.

I have not used the ranger doctrine once. I just use the pathfinders one. I lost one game recently because I didn't know about fighting positions being upgradeable to mortar pools (enemy player spammed emplacements).

Infantry spam is not nearly as bad as COH 2 though, that ♥♥♥♥ was awful.

[Medryn]

DAK has the fllat oout highest win rate. 100% a you thing

[Ghost Robertson]

I always thought playing against the Ai gives you an advantage of trying things out without worrying about rank or win/loss ratio.

So with DAK, You can try things you're not certain will work and see how the Ai deals with it before playing against a human.

I've never played online though.

[Jakerfv]

Originally posted by Medryn:

DAK has the fllat oout highest win rate. 100% a you thing

Do you have a guide to play them better then?

[LOLwhat2]

Originally posted by Ghost Robertson:

I always thought playing against the Ai gives you an advantage of trying things out without worrying about rank or win/loss ratio.

So with DAK, You can try things you're not certain will work and see how the Ai deals with it before playing against a human.

I've never played online though. :winter2019happybulb:

It makes you much worse you become too predictable and don't know what to do if you're opponent randomly switches it up. You learn timing from players so you can prepare early remember you can have the best control in the world if u do not have the correct units to respond it means nothing

[robwarrior]

is this a joke? dak are way stronger