US assault engineer is hot garbage.

[Rangefinder]

Whats the point of the upgrade? its not survivable and its damage output at close range isnt good. Only win fights if the enemy charges into close range.

[LOLwhat2]

theyre okay now keep in mind they repair twice as quick as regular engineer

[spaghetti671]

or you know, you can just get a mechanized center and not need to buy assault engineersfor passive repair speed

[LOLwhat2]

Originally posted by LOLwhat2:

theyre okay now keep in mind they repair twice as quick as regular engineer

mechanized is kinda sucky right now at high level u need isc to keep being aggresive with rifleman while going airborne

[T-70 X-Wing]

I have suggested an change for assault engies a while back people just laughed at me telling im mentally insane. Even though the change was perfectly sensible

for context this is what i have suggested:

Regular Engies 160 Manpower
Assault Engies: 200 Manpower

Regular Engies: 4 grease guns flamethrower and sweeper upgrade
Assault engineers: 5 grease guns with the abality to upgrade to 4 thompsons and 1 flamethrower for 75 munition

But no this suggestion is apprearnty too outrageous

[LOLwhat2]

Originally posted by T-70 X-Wing:

I have suggested an change for assault engies a while back people just laughed at me telling im mentally insane. Even though the change was perfectly sensible

for context this is what i have suggested:

Regular Engies 160 Manpower
Assault Engies: 200 Manpower

Regular Engies: 4 grease guns flamethrower and sweeper upgrade
Assault engineers: 5 grease guns with the abality to upgrade to 4 thompsons and 1 flamethrower for 75 munition

But no this suggestion is apprearnty too outrageous

the biggest issue with assault engineers is their speed you can be right behind a mg but they can just outrun you set up then you get insta supressed

[Cipher Esteria]

Originally posted by T-70 X-Wing:

I have suggested an change for assault engies a while back people just laughed at me telling im mentally insane. Even though the change was perfectly sensible

for context this is what i have suggested:

Regular Engies 160 Manpower
Assault Engies: 200 Manpower

Regular Engies: 4 grease guns flamethrower and sweeper upgrade
Assault engineers: 5 grease guns with the abality to upgrade to 4 thompsons and 1 flamethrower for 75 munition

But no this suggestion is apprearnty too outrageous

I don't think that would change much.
From what I've seen an experienced, Assault Engies are just not a good Assault unit.

Their DPS is actually not terrible for a unit you can get right at the start, they just will never be able to get close enough to use it.

A flamethrower and speed increase as Upgrade would be much better than just 4 thompsons that won't fix the problem of the unit.

[T-70 X-Wing]

Originally posted by Mr.Cipher:

Originally posted by T-70 X-Wing:

I have suggested an change for assault engies a while back people just laughed at me telling im mentally insane. Even though the change was perfectly sensible

for context this is what i have suggested:

Regular Engies 160 Manpower
Assault Engies: 200 Manpower

Regular Engies: 4 grease guns flamethrower and sweeper upgrade
Assault engineers: 5 grease guns with the abality to upgrade to 4 thompsons and 1 flamethrower for 75 munition

But no this suggestion is apprearnty too outrageous

I don't think that would change much.
From what I've seen an experienced, Assault Engies are just not a good Assault unit.

Their DPS is actually not terrible for a unit you can get right at the start, they just will never be able to get close enough to use it.

A flamethrower and speed increase as Upgrade would be much better than just 4 thompsons that won't fix the problem of the unit.

actually it would changed a lot of this ever since i got COH 3 i have kept saying USF lacks a strong CQC unit that can challange atleast the advanced infantry squads wehrmacht can bring up because 90% of the time rifleman cant win agaisnt jagers or panzergrenadiers without some gimmick on their side but that gimmick will not always be avalible to rely on
by introducing a squad with thompsons atleast the CQC deficeny could be resolved and its not even too outlandish either campaign has thompson assault engineers

[LOLwhat2]

Originally posted by T-70 X-Wing:

Originally posted by Mr.Cipher:

I don't think that would change much.
From what I've seen an experienced, Assault Engies are just not a good Assault unit.

Their DPS is actually not terrible for a unit you can get right at the start, they just will never be able to get close enough to use it.

A flamethrower and speed increase as Upgrade would be much better than just 4 thompsons that won't fix the problem of the unit.

actually it would changed a lot of this ever since i got COH 3 i have kept saying USF lacks a strong CQC unit that can challange atleast the advanced infantry squads wehrmacht can bring up because 90% of the time rifleman cant win agaisnt jagers or panzergrenadiers without some gimmick on their side but that gimmick will not always be avalible to rely on
by introducing a squad with thompsons atleast the CQC deficeny could be resolved and its not even too outlandish either campaign has thompson assault engineers

u seem to be missing the point both i and mr.chipher is saying man once again we are not saying that assault lack damage or wouldnt benefit from more cqc. problem is they have the same slow movement speed as gustatori while having no smoke with how good the mg42/34 is getting in close to do any real damage is nearly impossible. also you dont want assault engineers to have 4 tommy for only 200 manpower need a price increase would be kinda op

[T-70 X-Wing]

Originally posted by LOLwhat2:

Originally posted by T-70 X-Wing:

actually it would changed a lot of this ever since i got COH 3 i have kept saying USF lacks a strong CQC unit that can challange atleast the advanced infantry squads wehrmacht can bring up because 90% of the time rifleman cant win agaisnt jagers or panzergrenadiers without some gimmick on their side but that gimmick will not always be avalible to rely on
by introducing a squad with thompsons atleast the CQC deficeny could be resolved and its not even too outlandish either campaign has thompson assault engineers

u seem to be missing the point both i and mr.chipher is saying man once again we are not saying that assault lack damage or wouldnt benefit from more cqc. problem is they have the same slow movement speed as gustatori while having no smoke with how good the mg42/34 is getting in close to do any real damage is nearly impossible. also you dont want assault engineers to have 4 tommy for only 200 manpower need a price increase would be kinda op

and the point i was trying to make is people this is too outrageous of a change when its perfectly sensible 200 MP for 5 Thompsons no its 200 MP for 5 Grease guns and 75 or lets be bit more stingy here 90 munition for a general CQB upgrade what im suggesting here is a cut penal battalion concept

[LOLwhat2]

Originally posted by T-70 X-Wing:

Originally posted by LOLwhat2:

u seem to be missing the point both i and mr.chipher is saying man once again we are not saying that assault lack damage or wouldnt benefit from more cqc. problem is they have the same slow movement speed as gustatori while having no smoke with how good the mg42/34 is getting in close to do any real damage is nearly impossible. also you dont want assault engineers to have 4 tommy for only 200 manpower need a price increase would be kinda op

and the point i was trying to make is people this is too outrageous of a change when its perfectly sensible 200 MP for 5 Thompsons no its 200 MP for 5 Grease guns and 75 or lets be bit more stingy here 90 munition for a general CQB upgrade what im suggesting here is a cut penal battalion concept

It kinda funny how they didn't give back rangers the tommy actually thought it was gonna happen but no they got the same garbo zooks

[T-70 X-Wing]

Originally posted by LOLwhat2:

Originally posted by T-70 X-Wing:

and the point i was trying to make is people this is too outrageous of a change when its perfectly sensible 200 MP for 5 Thompsons no its 200 MP for 5 Grease guns and 75 or lets be bit more stingy here 90 munition for a general CQB upgrade what im suggesting here is a cut penal battalion concept

It kinda funny how they didn't give back rangers the tommy actually thought it was gonna happen but no they got the same garbo zooks

from what i saw ranger promotion abality rangers are a full thompson squad but in order to promote weapon drops thompson's DPS will be very undesireable

[Olden Sloe]

Originally posted by Rangefinder:

Whats the point of the upgrade? its not survivable and its damage output at close range isnt good. Only win fights if the enemy charges into close range.

Then do not buy the DLC? Pre-release complaints serve no true purpose? Wait for reviews of actual DLC??? Seems logical... This old geezer will enjoy the DLC no matter what the boo birds sing.

[Private twinkle toe 1010011]

Originally posted by Olden Sloe:

Originally posted by Rangefinder:

Whats the point of the upgrade? its not survivable and its damage output at close range isnt good. Only win fights if the enemy charges into close range.

Then do not buy the DLC? Pre-release complaints serve no true purpose? Wait for reviews of actual DLC??? Seems logical... This old geezer will enjoy the DLC no matter what the boo birds sing.

Uh... He's talking about armored battlegroup assault engineers, not rangers.