Company of Heroes 3

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filip227 Aug 30, 2023 @ 7:50am
It's worth it?
Hey guys, I'm currently playing the Men of War II and (Call to arm) Gates of Hell. I'm reading negative reviews about the Company of Heroes 3. When you compare it to the Men of War II and Gates of Hell, is the CoH3 worth it? For me, the essentials are: visual effects, graphics, level of demolition, sounds and of course ballistics (Gates of Hell has amazing ballistics, material penetration, etc.) Is armor penetration dependent on distances in the CoH3?
PS. from the videos I got the impression that CoH3 has fights at a very short distance (tanks, artillery has a very short range).
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ZaoN Aug 30, 2023 @ 9:02am 
It's not worth it and indeed fights are short and the developers made a terrible flop with this game. Alot of functions that made this game great is not even implenmented. And they are pushing cosmectics instead of listening and sorting out issues. Avoid it.
Raio Aug 30, 2023 @ 9:11am 
I would say: try the game for 100 minutes, half of time in skirmish against AI, and then refund if you wont like gfx etc. Its poor imo, also sound fx is very basic. Sad.
Tenshin51 Aug 30, 2023 @ 9:15am 
Skip or deep sale

Building and environment destruction got improved. It has better building destruction compared to COH2 and COH1. This is were COH 3 shines building and environment destruction. Were COH2 and COH1 building destruction are non existence but COH 3 nerf building garrison mechanic.

Some mechanic got improved. Unit looks ok and improved but animation from COH 2 and COH 1 are missing like some reload animation.

Vehicle destruction and vehicle damage got improved but the new mechanic look silly. Like burn tank w/ MG gunner looking fresh and tank gas tank got destroyed while the Tank is fully repair.

Armor penetration and accuracy are dependent on distance.

Some artillery units have short range but some have long range. Fights in COH3 are wider than COH2. It will take a while for retreating infantry to reinforce or arrive on the area except for some special infantry.
Badman*Kazuya Aug 30, 2023 @ 11:18am 
Skip, get COH2 or even 1. This game is an unbalanced mess. Armoured units die like paper. Game speed is too fast and doesn't really allow for tactical planning, especially because your units die to easily, even in cover.

Its the worst in the series by a long long way and Relic have got their work cut out for them.
Pop Aug 30, 2023 @ 11:42am 
I find it worth the money but I only play Custom Games with modded maps and tuning mods. That probably influences my opinion.
Katitoff Aug 30, 2023 @ 12:23pm 
Originally posted by filip227:
Hey guys, I'm currently playing the Men of War II.
My condolences.

And yes, its worth it now.

It wasn't at release, but it is now. Multiplayer is very enjoyable, can't tell much about campaigns or skirmish.
I>U Aug 30, 2023 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Katitoff:
Originally posted by filip227:
Hey guys, I'm currently playing the Men of War II.
My condolences.

And yes, its worth it now.

It wasn't at release, but it is now. Multiplayer is very enjoyable, can't tell much about campaigns or skirmish.

Playtime past 2 weeks:0h.

I really don't get why are you keep doing this, but anyone can check an anctual multiplayer activity of a given player on this particullar site: https://leaderboards.companyofheroes.com/?leaderboard=2v2DAK&q=Katitoff

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OP, CoH is closer to Starcraft and other competitve games. CoH1 and CoH2 are not exceptions. If you want something with advanced physics on the field, be prepared to lose in base-building\tech tree department.

The only 2 games I can remember now trying to mash this and that together were Universe at War and that Perimeter successor which name I forgot. It didn't go well, by the way.

If you like the games you've mentioned, have a look at Eugen Systems titles: Steel Division, Warno, everything, but Act of Agression, Maybe, Ground Control and World in Conflict can catch your eyes as well, but, well, they are old.
Last edited by I>U; Aug 30, 2023 @ 12:41pm
Demonic Spoon Aug 30, 2023 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by filip227:
Hey guys, I'm currently playing the Men of War II and (Call to arm) Gates of Hell. I'm reading negative reviews about the Company of Heroes 3. When you compare it to the Men of War II and Gates of Hell, is the CoH3 worth it? For me, the essentials are: visual effects, graphics, level of demolition, sounds and of course ballistics (Gates of Hell has amazing ballistics, material penetration, etc.) Is armor penetration dependent on distances in the CoH3?
PS. from the videos I got the impression that CoH3 has fights at a very short distance (tanks, artillery has a very short range).

CoH and Men of War are extremely different. The kind of "technical realism" that you get in Men of War - high lethality, realistic-ish weapon ranges, etc - are not present. A comparison that's often used is that CoH is like a hollywood war movie.

For example, armor penetration is dependent on distance, but it's percentage-based. For example, in Men of War, a weapon either penetrates or it doesn't; it does nothing if it doesn't penetrate, but can instantly destroy the target if it does.

In COH, tanks have hitpoints. Penetration is necessary to inflict HP damage. The chance to penetrate is a percentage. For example, even an AT rifle could penetrate the front armor of a Tiger some percentage of the time. However, that percentage is low enough that in practice you'd never want to use AT rifles to counter Tigers.

The lower lethality does mean fights tend to be a bit bigger. In my experience, MoW is interesting in that only one unit is ever really doing anything at any given time, because the game is so lethal that any unit you're not babying is likely to die. A lot of the cool spectacle in CoH3 comes from the fact that you will conceivably be micromanaging lots of units at once.

Comparisons to Starcraft earlier in this thread are a bit off base - CoH is a very micro-based game and doesn't play anywhere close to that. However, it also is very aware that it's a videogame; it tries to *look* real without actually mimicking reality exactly in its mechanics.

If you're not sure and don't want to spend the $60 to see if it's for you, you could always grab the original CoH or CoH2 on sale. Both games are well-polished and very well-regarded and would definitively tell you if the formula is for you. Both Coh2 and CoH3 are very much evolution of the same core gameplay, so if you hate how it plays in Coh1 you probably won't like CoH3.
Last edited by Demonic Spoon; Aug 30, 2023 @ 5:22pm
robert.miller65 Aug 30, 2023 @ 5:57pm 
Originally posted by filip227:
Hey guys, I'm currently playing the Men of War II and (Call to arm) Gates of Hell. I'm reading negative reviews about the Company of Heroes 3. When you compare it to the Men of War II and Gates of Hell, is the CoH3 worth it? For me, the essentials are: visual effects, graphics, level of demolition, sounds and of course ballistics (Gates of Hell has amazing ballistics, material penetration, etc.) Is armor penetration dependent on distances in the CoH3?
PS. from the videos I got the impression that CoH3 has fights at a very short distance (tanks, artillery has a very short range).
Give it a try. I think it is worth it, in fact i know it is.
Hussarius® Aug 30, 2023 @ 10:53pm 
Just throwing in my two cents, CoH3 is worth it. I've already played hundreds of matches in multiplayer and I'll play more.
Wolli Wombat Aug 31, 2023 @ 7:52am 
I would not buy it a full price right now. Better wait a bit.
Rudie8777 Aug 31, 2023 @ 11:34am 
Started playing at the Coh3 relaese and only been playing multiplayer (almost 860 matches) and I really enjoy playing this game especially with friends, we have a lot of fun and (almost) always feel we are progressing and trying to master different builds etc. The game have a lot of potential and it feels like its only 23% of its potential right now. Do understand the negativity but can't help feeling and thinking it's a very fun game and see myself keep playing for a while, and getting more content and a more stable playerbase on the way hopefully (Hopium) will keep it more interesting and fun.
giluma404 Aug 31, 2023 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by Rudie87:
The game have a lot of potential and it feels like its only 23% of its potential right now. Do understand the negativity but can't help feeling and thinking it's a very fun game and see myself keep playing for a while, and getting more content and a more stable playerbase on the way hopefully (Hopium) will keep it more interesting and fun.

I agree the gameplay is a lot of fun giving this kind of chaos and fun moments and the rewarding and disruptive feeling that Company of heroes gives :)
Machiavelli Aug 31, 2023 @ 1:01pm 
The balance is wacky but it has good pretty good mechanics. Play for yourself and make up your own mind. Never going back coh2 really.
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GoodGorilla Aug 31, 2023 @ 1:02pm 
Coh 3 has more balancing issues than Diablo 4. Relic needs a better play testing team, or more members or something. The game was released way too soon. Last patch felt like a Beta game with lots of features. Still feels Beta. Yet expansion is coming soon.
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