how to deal with pathfinder spam as axis?

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seems extremely broken they have 6 units by the time you have 3, the grenade instantly wipes a squad almost even with macro the untility they bring is busted with smokes and out of combat healing? Mgs dont do ♥♥♥♥ since they instantly die to the nade morter dont do ♥♥♥♥ since theyre just running down the lane to each capture point whats the counter?

[Katitoff]

There is no "axis" faction in game.
There is DAK and Wehrmacht.
So which one it is for you?

[DoDonPachi]

yea its kind of broken. the only parallel i can think of is coh 1 where the US player would usually get 4 riflemen and a jeep. Wher getting 2 mgs and 2 volksgrenadiers. Thing is this was balanced because the US player needed to pull a flank on the mg to get map control. In this game the US player doesnt give a ♥♥♥♥ about mgs because you just smoke or nade it.

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wehramecht

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been fought Pathfinder spam quite often . and here information i have .

either you play Wehr or Dak if you see 2-3 pathfinder try rushing any Vehicle ASAP cuz Pathfinder have no AT option . and they squishly

pathfinder
-They cheep and outgun you in most the time .
-They only shine when fighting in green cover without it they will die instantly
-They damage is on the weak side compare to other mainline inf. so you likely to see Pathfinder + sniper combo all the time cuz of it.

The concept to counter this type of gamesplay is
- Unit bonus Vs green cover ( Flamethrower / Motar )
- Forcing them out of cover ( Flamethrower / Vehicle flanking )
- Assault inf. (Wehr P.Gren / Dak Assault Gren )

Option 1 - 3-4 Pathfinder

as a DAK your best bet is Motocycle / 250 Auto cannon upgrade . ( dont wait for 8rad you gonna lose the early game ) at 6 min mark call in for Assault P.gren or Le.IG if they Hunger down with heavy weapon team . ( no need to worry about light tank . they already invest so much on Pathfinder / weapon team / Paratrooper it gonna come abit late than usual )

The build early order gonna be like - start with Motocycle > P.Gren > P.Gren > P.Gren or 250 ( you still need the third P.gren ) you also can swap P.Gren to Berlisary if you want

as a Wehr is tricky .

For my Experience . i playing as Breakthough and Upgrade MP40 and blobing Gren early game and try to pushing as far as i can , using breakthough skill .
you can also Double pioneerflamer upgrade to combine with your Gren forcing them to retreat dont play the tug of war with them you likely to lose all the time

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Option 2- 2 Pathfinder + sniper
Now we in trouble . they want to play tug of war with you . dont play with them

if you play as a DAK rushing clown car 250 + Flame pioneer is a Must you gonna get snipe all day and starting to bleed Find the sniper and rushing to kill it even you gonna lose 250 it worth to kill the sniper .

if you can kill them you already ahead your opponent . go for 3 Mainline and keep pushing let your pioneer capture the victory point .


as a Wehr your out of luck . the only option you have is Counter sniper with sniper , and i'm not a fan of this . all i can say is Good luck . if somehow you can push Their pathfinder before sniper coming you might get abit of advantage, but still you gonna get rekt later . prepare to play tug of war . rushing your Jager(G43) + Wirblewind quick


just speak from my own perspective . game still fresh we aint discover all strats yet


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Option 3 Pathfinder + Weapon team

Dak - Double Le.IG + 250 mortar upgrade and Flak halftruck for Anti air
Wehr - Double mortar with vet upgrade flare them and keep barraging :D

[mayrc]

As Wehrmacht:
Aside from MG42 the Jagers with rifle upgrade totaly masacre Pathfinders. 2 jagers with rifles upgrade easily massacre 4 Pathfinders. Problem is people almost never make the rifle upgrade.

As DAK: i know sound strange but basic Panzergrens with MG upgrade are nasty as hell if you keep combined Arms bonus on them (a non support vehicle near.) Then again 2 Panzergrens massacre 4 PAthfinder easy.

But of course if you dont micro and only rightklick then let them grenade you then NOTHING can stop them.

[Pappus]

Originally posted by Alberic:

been fought Pathfinder spam quite often . and here information i have .

either you play Wehr or Dak if you see 2-3 pathfinder try rushing any Vehicle ASAP cuz Pathfinder have no AT option . and they squishly

pathfinder
-They cheep and outgun you in most the time .
-They only shine when fighting in green cover without it they will die instantly
-They damage is on the weak side compare to other mainline inf. so you likely to see Pathfinder + sniper combo all the time cuz of it.

The concept to counter this type of gamesplay is
- Unit bonus Vs green cover ( Flamethrower / Motar )
- Forcing them out of cover ( Flamethrower / Vehicle flanking )
- Assault inf. (Wehr P.Gren / Dak Assault Gren )

Option 1 - 3-4 Pathfinder

as a DAK your best bet is Motocycle / 250 Auto cannon upgrade . ( dont wait for 8rad you gonna lose the early game ) at 6 min mark call in for Assault P.gren or Le.IG if they Hunger down with heavy weapon team . ( no need to worry about light tank . they already invest so much on Pathfinder / weapon team / Paratrooper it gonna come abit late than usual )

The build early order gonna be like - start with Motocycle > P.Gren > P.Gren > P.Gren or 250 ( you still need the third P.gren ) you also can swap P.Gren to Berlisary if you want

as a Wehr is tricky .

For my Experience . i playing as Breakthough and Upgrade MP40 and blobing Gren early game and try to pushing as far as i can , using breakthough skill .
you can also Double pioneerflamer upgrade to combine with your Gren forcing them to retreat dont play the tug of war with them you likely to lose all the time

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Option 2- 2 Pathfinder + sniper
Now we in trouble . they want to play tug of war with you . dont play with them

if you play as a DAK rushing clown car 250 + Flame pioneer is a Must you gonna get snipe all day and starting to bleed Find the sniper and rushing to kill it even you gonna lose 250 it worth to kill the sniper .

if you can kill them you already ahead your opponent . go for 3 Mainline and keep pushing let your pioneer capture the victory point .


as a Wehr your out of luck . the only option you have is Counter sniper with sniper , and i'm not a fan of this . all i can say is Good luck . if somehow you can push Their pathfinder before sniper coming you might get abit of advantage, but still you gonna get rekt later . prepare to play tug of war . rushing your Jager(G43) + Wirblewind quick


just speak from my own perspective . game still fresh we aint discover all strats yet


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Option 3 Pathfinder + Weapon team

Dak - Double Le.IG + 250 mortar upgrade and Flak halftruck for Anti air
Wehr - Double mortar with vet upgrade flare them and keep barraging :D

Double IG? I haver trouble paying for ONE