Can we use controller on PC?

[Gisborne]

Can we use controller on PC?

[Craymar]

ROLF

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by Craymar:

ROLF

I like to lay in bed away from PC using my xbox controller and 48 inch LG C2 Oled TV. Been playing diablo since launch like that.

[Arquebusier]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Originally posted by Craymar:

ROLF

I like to lay in bed away from PC using my xbox controller and 48 inch LG C2 Oled TV. Been playing diablo since launch like that.

lol, diablo isn't micro-intensive rts like coh. I doubt how people can play this on consoles

[TheOrangeBox]

Originally posted by Kongo Muller:

lol, diablo isn't micro-intensive rts like coh. I doubt how people can play this on consoles

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sH4tRl_ZH0

[AtlasRedux]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Originally posted by Kongo Muller:

lol, diablo isn't micro-intensive rts like coh. I doubt how people can play this on consoles

in ways it looks better on controller, all your 4 squad orders are mapped to each direction button and you can hover over X and press which command, I always find keybinds awkward in pc rts games Q R G J and ♥♥♥♥.

There is a reason there isn't cross-platform gaming with RTS. There is no way, ever, that you can beat the reaction and precision of hotkeys and mouse. Your controller does not have enough buttons for all the hotkeys you need and you do not have the speed and precision on the analogue stick to precisely instantly give an order.

[coffeemm8]

Halo Wars made me open to playing RTS with controller. I know it's really watered down RTS compared to COH but it just felt so intuitive lol.

and besides, if COH1 can be played with touch controls on a tablet, I don't see why a controller is any worse

[AtlasRedux]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Originally posted by AtlasRedux:

There is a reason there isn't cross-platform gaming with RTS. There is no way, ever, that you can beat the reaction and precision of hotkeys and mouse. Your controller does not have enough buttons for all the hotkeys you need and you do not have the speed and precision on the analogue stick to precisely instantly give an order.

Well people play mmo such as FFXIV, ESO with way more buttons than coh3 on their hotbars and I sure get recked in BF 2042 by ps and xbox users with controller in crossplay a lot... so I'm sure an rts is not that hard when you actually think about how much simpler it is.

FF14 is an utterly moronic example. I can heal in that while watching TV due to the extremely low APM needed to play it.
Controller users gets aim assist on BF2042. Another stupid example, since the game LITERALLY GIVES CHEATS TO CONTROLLER USERS to balance it out, exactly because CONTROLLERS ARE WAY TOO SLOW AND IMPRECISE TO PLAY WITH compared to a mouse.
RTS demands an APM of around 120 to play at a competitive level. There is NO OTHER TYPE OF GAME that has an APM at that level. Also, there has been plenty of tests of FPS games with controller VS mouse with no aim-assist, and even mediocre mouse users absolutely DESTROYS controller users.
There is, QUITE LITERALLY, no type of game that is so APM intensive as RTS. You need to click PIXEL PERFECT at an INSTANT when you play competitively. That will, again, never happen with the incredibly slow and imprecise controller. Controller has its uses. It's not for RTS and FPS.
Go to Youtube. Watch pro-gamers play RTS for fun with controller. It's hilarious.

[Billy Rising]

I too would like controller support, those simply laughing at this question, or claiming its unfeasible, are simply wrong, and my response to you is.

Great, now we know what you personally think.

I would agree, if one was planning on playing PVP.

In the end, the game literally has a pause function in singleplayer which drops any argument that could be had.

Now that thats out of the way, Developers, may we please get controller support on PC?

[AtlasRedux]

Originally posted by Billy Rising:

I would agree, if one was planning on playing PVP.

In the end, the game literally has a pause function in singleplayer which drops any argument that could be had.
Now that thats out of the way, Developers, may we please get controller support on PC?

That's fair. Except that they brought up PvP in later comments.

[AtlasRedux]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Originally posted by AtlasRedux:

FF14 is an utterly moronic example. I can heal in that while watching TV due to the extremely low APM needed to play it.
Controller users gets aim assist on BF2042. Another stupid example, since the game LITERALLY GIVES CHEATS TO CONTROLLER USERS to balance it out, exactly because CONTROLLERS ARE WAY TOO SLOW AND IMPRECISE TO PLAY WITH compared to a mouse.
RTS demands an APM of around 120 to play at a competitive level. There is NO OTHER TYPE OF GAME that has an APM at that level. Also, there has been plenty of tests of FPS games with controller VS mouse with no aim-assist, and even mediocre mouse users absolutely DESTROYS controller users.
There is, QUITE LITERALLY, no type of game that is so APM intensive as RTS. You need to click PIXEL PERFECT at an INSTANT when you play competitively. That will, again, never happen with the incredibly slow and imprecise controller. Controller has its uses. It's not for RTS and FPS.
Go to Youtube. Watch pro-gamers play RTS for fun with controller. It's hilarious.

Bro you dismiss examples of much harder to lay games then say this is impossible to play vs eachother when in reality no this game would be easier than both ffxiv, eso etc to play. You just cant accept it for some reason. what is wrong with you? really?

I've seen a guy play Warzone exclusively with controller on his PC vs PC players and WRECK most people.

Warzone 2100? The casual RTS with severely low APM, that focuses on macro instead of micro? Sure. That, again, is a completely different beast. CoH3, however, is a micromanagement RTS. Which, again, demands hyper-precision and instant clicks.
You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what APM is.
And, again, FF14 is so slow paced, you can play it without looking at the screen half the time. As I said, I job as healer in FF14. I watch shows and movies while healing, because it's so utterly simple. Even current WoW is more "intense" than FF14, and that's saying something. You have literally seconds of grace periods. In CoH3 however, you have to instantly move as you get information. There is literally a whiner thread right now right here about people that complain about CoH3 demanding too quick reaction and precision.

[AtlasRedux]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

COD BR Warzone, Super jacked up twitching kids on 500 cans of redbull going at it like some try hard wannabe giga chad gamers. If a guy can win that on PC with controller... and no aim assist on PC.
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AGAIN, FPS GAMES GIVES CONTROLLER USERS AIM ASSIST EXACTLY TO COMBAT THE ISSUE THAT CONTROLLER IS AWFUL.
What is it about this that you don't understand? Hell, the CoD Warzone aim assist is notorious for basically playing the game for you!
Have you absolutely no idea how games work?

[AtlasRedux]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

PC games with controller don't have aim assist...

WhAt DoNt YoU UndErStnD lol...

Your petty insults and lack of knowledge are now boring me.

My lack of knowledge? You, AGAIN, are wrong.
LITERALLY THE TOP VIDEO OF CoD Warzone is HOW TO SET UP PC CONFIGURATION FOR OPTIMAL AIM ASSIST. You are so out of your league, I'm astonished you even know how to post here.

I QUOTE:
"For gamers who play Warzone on controller, whether it’s on PC or console, there’s a setting under the Controller options in the game that will change up the aim assist setting. Aim assist is the game’s subtle way of helping controller players hit their target since it’s normally quite difficult to maintain accuracy with analog sticks as opposed to a mouse and keyboard."
https://dotesports.com/call-of-duty/news/the-best-aim-assist-settings-for-call-of-duty-warzone#:~:text=Aim%20assist%20is%20an%20important,up%20the%20aim%20assist%20setting.

This, by the way, is FAR FROM unique for CoD. Almost all FPS has aim assist on PC when you use controller. AGAIN, BECAUSE CONTROLLER IS UTTER GARBAGE FOR FPS AND RTS.

[AtlasRedux]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

Controllers are more realistic. simulate real life reaction time and gear encumbrance, not insta 970 degree no scope twitch And who wants FPS on PC when TARKOV proved in videos most of the player base cheats.

You have to be a troll.
TARKOV HAS CHEATERS, BECAUSE IT LITERALLY HAS TERRIBLE ANTI CHEAT!
They use BattlEye, a third party re-active implementation. Re-active anti-cheats are utter and complete garbage, and only used by terrible developers.
So does many console games. Hell, Sony has started to implement hardware checks to combat their cheater problem.
Tarkov is an exception. Most games today have great anti-cheat. Tarkov does not.
CS:GO is still going strong after 11 years.
And "Controllers are more realistic" ... no one cares. It's not realistic to respawn after you die, yet you do.
Controllers are garbage for FPS and RTS. That's why FPS has aim assist. To combat that even medicore mouse users destroys pro controller users without aim assist.
Mouse is simply better for FPS and RTS.
Controller is better for platforming and racing.
Wheel even better for racing (especially simulators, iRacing is hard as hell with controller compared to wheel).
Joystick is better for flight sim.
That's not discussable. What you LIKE is another thing, but when talking multiplayer, a controller user without aim assist will get destroyed by mouse users.

[AtlasRedux]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

tell me what anti cheat BF 2042 uses?

In fact the majority of games inc tripple A use Easy Anti Cheat, which is borderline absolutely useless. I'm sure you're here trolling as a white knight defender of COH3 M/K, you a dev lol?

"EAC is actually pretty terrible against commercial cheats, it's only use is against free cheats pretty much. If you're willing to pay, you'll find many for EAC games."

EAC is crap. Yet it is infinitely better than BattlEye.
Also, I wouldn't trust a quote from someone that doesn't even know the difference between "its" and "it's", doesn't sound very professional to me.

Also, yes, I am very much a developer, but not for CoH 3. I am just not a complete moron that thinks a controller in any way can compete against mouse in multiplayer FPS and RTS. It's just not a discussion. This has been tried countless times and is a running joke.
AGAIN, aim assist is in all competitive FPS, INCLUDING ON PC, when using controller, since controller, AGAIN, is utter and complete garbage for FPS and RTS.
Also, former professional C&C Renegade and Trackmania Stadium (original release) player here.

[AtlasRedux]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

I have a few Norwegian friends I've known a very long time. Why are you guys soo absolutely anal about grammar? It's a big problem you guys seem to have I notice. You always bring it up as an attack as if people care? I often talk on forums on my phone and I can type words correct and it will even spell check it auto into a made up word that's not real lol or use the incorrect grammar... I wouldn't try to take some mental superiority over people for grammar, it's cringe asf.

Spelling is not grammar. So you got that wrong as well.
How many things are you going to get wrong today?

Also, have a pro gamer getting wrecked when playing with controller with aim assist turned off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgLtHcElTX8