COH 2 or 3?

[My Killer Shack]

I havent played either and was wondering which I should get, ive seen alot of negativity towards COH 3.

I plan to learn the game then do multiplayer

[LPDAiborne82]

The game is great. Its got some bugs and some things that need fixing but the production value will only continue to increase. COH2 is complete and finished, currently has more player than COH2 but that wont last forever as they continue to put out new content for COH3. They both have pretty different graphical styles and some prefer the older one. Personally the balance in this one is far better than COH2 simply by the lack of the super heavies the Russians and Germans got in COH2. Up to you though. COH2 like I said is complete and has 8 years of content to show for it.

[wowcoh56]

Originally posted by My Killer Shack:

I havent played either and was wondering which I should get, ive seen alot of negativity towards COH 3.

I plan to learn the game then do multiplayer

I would say COH3 simply because its new and supported by the Dev's, COH2 def. has more content but is no longer supported and starting to show that with some things not working anymore. Some things are missing from COH3 right now, most importantly custom and skirmish games do not get credit towards ranks and wins/losses, hopefully this will be addressed in a future patch.

[Demonic Spoon]

Originally posted by My Killer Shack:

I havent played either and was wondering which I should get, ive seen alot of negativity towards COH 3.

I plan to learn the game then do multiplayer

CoH2 pros:

* More polished over years and years of updates
* More total content (though much of it is DLC; CoH3 has more content in the base game)
* More mods available
* Cheaper

CoH3:
* More modern/QoL updates
* (In my opinion, highly subjective) better core gameplay
* Will continue to receive updates/expansions/new content/etc
* Better 'tactical pause' feature - not usable in multiplayer, but can be useful in singleplayer while you're learning if you're getting overwhelmed

Personally I'd suggest CoH3 overall. However, if you're not sure you're going to love this style of RTS, CoH 1 or 2 are much more budget-friendly options for determining if the franchise is for you. Ultimately all 3 games have the same core gameplay

[Mythless]

Stay away from coh3 as far as possible. Every other who recommends this is usf fanboy that abuse plane strafes for 33 ammo killing all inf.

They will nerf it tomorrow but still there are 2 literally unplayable units(can't build them) deu to a bug for about a week. They cant fix that.
There are also tons of other bugs that probably will be fixed like abilities overlapping on ui so you can't use them or constant buff after first use of ability or other of many other stuff...

Replay feature is 3rd party program.
There is no watching live games of other players like in coh 2.
No voting for maps.
Maps are ♥♥♥♥ filled with garnisons.

A flow of a game is kinda better and some hotkeys are better(some are better but some are dogs**** like retreat and reserve on the same key) in coh3 but thats it. Overall coh2 is superior in EVERY way.
W8 for 50-75% discount or for a miracle that somehow they will patch this game in 5 years to be considered out of beta phase, but i cant see that when the game is more unplayable and broken with each patch. Its like they fix one stuff and break 5 others.

[Brezelbube]

Originally posted by Mit:

Stay away from coh3 as far as possible. Every other who recommends this is usf fanboy that abuse plane strafes for 33 ammo killing all inf.

They will nerf it tomorrow but still there are 2 literally unplayable units(can't build them) deu to a bug for about a week. They cant fix that.
There are also tons of other bugs that probably will be fixed like abilities overlapping on ui so you can't use them or constant buff after first use of ability or other of many other stuff...

Replay feature is 3rd party program.
There is no watching live games of other players like in coh 2.
No voting for maps.
Maps are ♥♥♥♥ filled with garnisons.

A flow of a game is kinda better and some hotkeys are better(some are better but some are dogs**** like retreat and reserve on the same key) in coh3 but thats it. Overall coh2 is superior in EVERY way.
W8 for 50-75% discount or for a miracle that somehow they will patch this game in 5 years to be considered out of beta phase, but i cant see that when the game is more unplayable and broken with each patch. Its like they fix one stuff and break 5 others.

tomorrow? is that confirmed?

[Demonic Spoon]

Yes. The below was announced by John on the official Discord

Our team will be targeting a hot fix for tomorrow to address top issues including FPS drops, the US Air Support Center, bugs with towed anti-tank weapons and more. Stay tuned and check out the patch notes tomorrow.

[Low Expectations]

COH 3 has lot of problems/bugs in multiplayer.
But IMO you must go for COH 3. You know why ?

Because you're a new comer to this game, and being a fresher you have to learn lot of things. So after learning all the basic things, when you gonna start playing multiplayer the game will be more polished by then.

So no worry go for it.

[I>U]

Just don't buy either. Both are pale comparring to the original. But if you can't supress that urgue, get CoH2. To the very least, it was directed by Quinn Duffy. "CoH3" is a Sega's brand made by "Relic". Majority of the devs involved has better history with sport games/3D-actions rather than RTS.

If you need exact reasons why you should avoid CoH3:

1) Horrors of "new" Relic development. They release buggy builds on Fridays for you to suffer on your holidays (and them to sell more copies, because there are more active buyers at the same time). It was the same for CoH2, but, at least, they don't touch it anymore, so you don't have to worry about your holidays getting ruined.

2) DoW3's precedent. They simply drop it in a very "transitive" state after some major gameplay updates. You may have different opinions on that title, but it doesn't change the fact that they've started patching it and left in a devastated state. New Relic doesn't know about mid-endings.
By the way, DoW3 already got a "content" update by this time. The only things CoH3 got are the features DoW3 had on release.

3) Sega's marketing practices. They commonly treat their customers as nutrient fodder, competing with EA and 2K on that, milking every penny they can. It's just another publisher you have to be aware of. If you buyed at full-price from them, you let them ride you.

4) This very Sega has recently acquired Rovio for $776M. Compare that with Relic https://tracxn.com/d/acquisitions/acquisitionsbySega and later lay-offs anouncement. I just can't believe RTS is their priority anymore.

5) General market situation. It's not 2014 anymore with Steam growing in hundred of thousands monthly. You can't make a newer playerbase by spamming -75% sales and giveaways (what they did with CoH2), and they did A LOT to destroy any loyality with CoH2's quality and these very promotions going one after another.
Over that, this game is Steam-exclussive on PC, still. And there is a nice console version drawing resources from PC development, too.

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Seriously, if I wasn't been through CoH2 and DoW3 (plus other titles published by Sega over the same period), I would have said "yeah, CoH3 is the future, go for it". Sadly, I'm more versed with Sega's strategies and new Relic's competence by now.

Majority of people praising CoH2 on these forums got it on sale\off-Steam promotion\giveaway.
Majority of people cursing CoH3 on these forums wouldn't be so mad if it had "Early Access" tag and was been priced like CoH2 on release (40 USD or equivalent).
But the choice is yours.

[Khanwolf]

If you wanna be a Playtester for something that feels like an Early Access with Twitch Prime Skin Drops and weird ingame currency you can only bypass by doing daily and weekly Chores, then CoH3 was made for you!

Just make sure your Twitch Account is linked, so you can get all that tasty stuff that doesnt even come in the Digital Deluxe Premium Version.

This Game is a Masterwork of their Marketing Department and every Update shows that everything else has zero Priority. Last Update broke the Performance and even Core Units cannot be built anymore, but still you will find official Streams about the Updates and Developer Announcements on the Steam Store Page, because it comes at MAXIMUM Relic Quality!

It feels like even the people who work on it dont want it to be an enjoyable and finished Product half a year after release. It is just a big Marketing Show, when simple Updates break even the lowest of expectations:

Last Update could have been a success, if they only playtested it for an hour on any PC they can find in their office. But even that was too much to ask for again. This was just made to milk a Community that couldnt wait for a Sequel.

[zaku49]

COH2 is a MUCH better game, it's basically like playing COH3 5 years from now after everything has been fixed and all the extra content has been added to the game. Even after 5 years I can't see it being better than COH2 as COH3 is an already dead game averaging 2x/3x fewer players than COH2. They'd have to give this game away for free to recover at this point but then again, most people still won't play it as it's worse than COH2.

Keep in mind COH2 is 10+ years old now and you can get it for like $5. I really don't know how you make a game worse than one that is over 10 years old now, even the graphics are worse. It also lacks advanced features like snow/mud/weather and running over inf.

[Mythophage]

Coh2 regularly goes on sale for like 5 dollars and is a much better game.

Maybe coh3 will be worth a buy in a few years...

[WΛRMΩNGΞR]

So I pretty much got, COH3 is trash. I'll stay away from this title until it becomes a gog classic.

[KlugE]

Coh 2 is complete game , it's very good. It's old but still the best rts of that genre on the market. Sadly, It's not supported anymore.

Coh3 is litteraly a mobile game with toys . If visuals and realism are not important for you , you can go for it. But the game is a big downgrade in everything compared to coh2.

[Cataclysm™]

both are great...i spent so many hours playing CoH2 and 3 is also awesome

[Emjay]

CoH3 is a better experience overall although CoH2 is a bigger game/experience.

CoH3 can be buggy at times, but more content is coming and the devs are actively supporting it whereas CoH2 is done.