Game is unbalanced, Germans are extremely overpowered

[SuperRhino]

I've played CoH 1, CoH 2, and now CoH 3. Title says it all. Game is extremely lop-sided in favor of the Germans.

[Machiavelli]

Originally posted by Fragile:

Originally posted by SuperRhino:

How? Allies only win when Germans are being played by newbs.

UK spams boys AT, and transitions into countering whatever you're doing by being very flexible. USA spams paratroops and pathfinder grenade launchers, then upgrades their basic troops into ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ out LMG fire out the ass, which for some reason rips light and med vehicles apart like nothing. Then just counter whatever they do. Then every DAK player cries themselves to sleep, because their whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ deal early game is light vehicles combined with their troops. Like cuckhold porn, the DAK player will cry in the corner as you take what's theirs, every chance of fighting back failing "T-Territory chan no!!!"
♥♥♥♥ Allies, their early game is braindead, and the few counters Axis have leaves very little room for error.

O7 I will fight to the end as DAK.

[Karbomer]

I try to play 2ger 2ally games with a friend to feel both sides. We have easy games as germans but as allies we lose more often and even if we win matches are way harder. Germans have better tanks, more types of infantry. Way more strong Anti air which makes Allies air calls weak while germans can call theirs easily. I lost way too many tanks to this stuka overwatch. 2 runs and Matilda is dead. Tried making anti air truck upgrade. Truck was also destroyed easily.

[Yansomi]

I say both sides anit-tank planes are way too strong, difference is Axis AA Actully work.
Inf require more micro tho they die much easyer, so if you dont adapt to this, it's your own fault.
The Italian inf callins are way too strong, I meen i could more or less hold back 6 US inf with only two Gastatori, they may be more expensive per unit, but with that diffrence in strength it does not matter and they do everything on top of that.
Aslo both German factions seem to have way too cheap tanks for what they do, and the cheap callin groupds Africa corps can call in, I don't even know why they have, looks like a huge crutch tool for when you suck.

[Axis For Braindeads]

Did you ever play allies :)) Check queue times before talk. Typical low iq axis player who thinks he is genious tactician. (He selects ifantries and walks around)

[Karbomer]

Exactly biggest giveaway is queue times. Germans have to look for matches 4-5min while Allies can find one under 1min often.

[Tiger 131]

oh look a whinger cos he is no good with the op factions

[amateur shut in]

Brits have the AT rifles but thats really about it aside from their indirect. Their tanks are made of paper and dont pen and they currently have no tank destroyer. Strong early on but weak late.
The US tanks are ok but they have no heavies or decent indirect and their infantry is a lot weaker than it used to be. The shermans can do a lot if you can afford to upgrade them but it costs to get there and they can struggle early.
Wehr get heavy flaks out the gate which is nuts and the AT loiter kills tanks in FOW, also the early stugs to P4s is tough to deal if used well. They can be slow at the start but ramp up heavily.
DAK have a non doctrine Tiger, lots of early vehicles for map pressure and some crazy doctrine units too.

Everything is OP when you're losing.

[amateur shut in]

Does seem like axis have the edge though for the moment. Unless you exclusively play as them, in which case aLLiEs ArE Op, NeRf ThEm sO I cAn iNsTaWin

[donalddawkins]

From what i'v played:

German luftwaffe flak meme is a pretty OP if they can get a foothold early on, if they fail to take or hold the cap their meming on it's GG, they also sepnd a lot of resources fortifying these areas, so while they dig in you can just take the surrounding caps, save up bishop artillery and just obliterate their positions before moving in to quick occupy the now empty emplacements..

Brit BOIS spam is OP early to mid game but becomes useless late game with good panzer 4 micro and tiger tonk, and can get countered by a hard investment in anti-infantry tech and troops. Flame italians also act as a hard counter along with emplacements and microed snipers can bully british troops due to how slow the inf is, simply spot the dug in brits and sniper away then run off when they try and chase and suddenly brit AT bois don't seem that impressive.

German standard non-meme battlegroups are weak early to mid game as it can't go toe to toe with brit blobs without heavy micro and combined arms (sniper, MG, infantry). However their battlegorups allow them to almost double their resource gain in (truck, pioneers) meaning all they have to do is survive until late game. At which point the tiger 4 comes out along with the 3-4 panzer 4s and a pioneer panzer rush mops the ground with the enemy unless they have a VERY strong AT set up.

Matildas can go toe to toe with Panzer 4's but the extra abilities the panzer 4's have can out-win, plus the resource bonuses pretty much allows you to rush 2 for every 1 matilda. Just wait massing panzer 4's and pioneers until you can buy the tiger then rush foward and it's gg.

in short, german faction is defensive until mid-late game then wins by overwhelming armor and pioneer spam. SO Allies OP early-mid, Germans OP mid-late game.

I have seen US hellcats be quite effective against panzer 4's mind you.

[razor94]

1st Balance Patch announce for next week on COH3 disord. There will be many more after. Everything won't be balanced after 1 patch either. This will be a process just like COH2.

[Blu3|Lightning]

Where does Axis have overwhelming armor? Panzer IV and III are nutcases. Only Tiger and Panther is good, but those only come in the endgame.

Stronges Faction are the Brits, great infantry, stronges AT gun and a lot arty.

[Devious Daniel]

Originally posted by just|Blu3™:

Where does Axis have overwhelming armor? Panzer IV and III are nutcases. Only Tiger and Panther is good, but those only come in the endgame.

Stronges Faction are the Brits, great infantry, stronges AT gun and a lot arty.

If you can't use the p4 or p3 you are dead in the head bro

[drumroll]

Originally posted by just|Blu3™:

Where does Axis have overwhelming armor? Panzer IV and III are nutcases. Only Tiger and Panther is good, but those only come in the endgame.

Stronges Faction are the Brits, great infantry, stronges AT gun and a lot arty.

if you are unable to use the Pz 3/4 then its a skill issue

[kosmique]

can't agree so far... I find it quite difficult to hold a frontline with corps... i always get ran out of area vs early allies units

[KingCoward]

Arent there any public stats available somewhere win rates etc, just from having a glance at the forum it seems every faction has a thread ''x = op'' so if all factions are apparently OP i suppose none of them are.