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Welderman Feb 3, 2023 @ 12:49pm
Tiger Tanks we’re not part of the Afrika Korps
They were not part of the Afrika Korps, but were of the 501st.
Just mentioning this as the latest “sizzler” trailer depicts a Tiger in its opening image.
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✪ Battle Fox ✪ Feb 3, 2023 @ 1:24pm 
Tiger 131.
Grimmsch Feb 3, 2023 @ 1:28pm 
I think it is fine to bend accuracy for entertainment purposes in an RTS.
But I understand if others disagree here.

The Brits in the game have a Black Prince.

Anyway there were several Tiger tanks in Tunesia. The Schwere Panzer-Abteilung 504, for example had some.
ElokoMs Feb 3, 2023 @ 11:39pm 
Tiger + Panzer III Ausf. N was standard in a Schwere Panzerabteilung late 1942 - early 1943
James Ryan Feb 4, 2023 @ 2:15am 
Originally posted by Grimmsch:
I think it is fine to bend accuracy for entertainment purposes in an RTS.
But I understand if others disagree here.

The Brits in the game have a Black Prince.

Anyway there were several Tiger tanks in Tunesia. The Schwere Panzer-Abteilung 504, for example had some.

The more you "see" the differences between reality vs no accuracy, the harder it destroys the immersion thus entertainment.

So doing it unrealistic will catch the unknown, they cannot compare anyway -> Win-Lose
Doing it realistic catch both unknown, they dont care but also those who care/see differences -> Win-Win

So doing it as realistic as possible is the better option, will get more income, attention etc. At least if you do no science fiction genre and CoH obviously represent a "in reality happened war".
Grimmsch Feb 4, 2023 @ 3:56am 
Originally posted by James Ryan:
The more you "see" the differences between reality vs no accuracy, the harder it destroys the immersion thus entertainment.

So doing it unrealistic will catch the unknown, they cannot compare anyway -> Win-Lose
Doing it realistic catch both unknown, they dont care but also those who care/see differences -> Win-Win

So doing it as realistic as possible is the better option, will get more income, attention etc. At least if you do no science fiction genre and CoH obviously represent a "in reality happened war".

Fair point. For me immersion breakers are rather that there is no recoil for tanks and no unit crushing than historically inaccurate units.
MrGuyper Feb 4, 2023 @ 8:28am 
Yes, they were.

The Stug, on the otherhand, did not work in the desert (large ventilation filters + sand = kaput). Seems like a missed opportunity to replace it with something similar that can fit the role.
Craymar Feb 4, 2023 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by ★ Fox ★:
Tiger 131.
This thread should have ended here.
im ok if its inaccurate a bit as long as i have access to more unique units as possible .. i dont mind if they had king tiger as well..
James Ryan Feb 5, 2023 @ 1:05am 
Originally posted by Baby Feng Min:
im ok if its inaccurate a bit as long as i have access to more unique units as possible .. i dont mind if they had king tiger as well..

But thats science fiction then, what about clown tanks? Im sure any faction did one in WW2, maybe add for "more unique units as possible"?

I vote for keep it realism and add uniqueness and quality by features/gameplay development. You can make a tank feel like a 3D block and boring or add huge details, features, options etc. and it feels like a tank simulation. Thats quality without spammy add 100 models but all worse and also take out realism aspects.
Originally posted by Craymar:
Originally posted by ★ Fox ★:
Tiger 131.
This thread should have ended here.
Balalaika Feb 6, 2023 @ 1:45am 
Originally posted by Welderman:
They were not part of the Afrika Korps, but were of the 501st.
Just mentioning this as the latest “sizzler” trailer depicts a Tiger in its opening image.

Shhhhhhhh! Lelic did very careful research did you not see the developer say so?

"We did a very careful research on units and factions."

-Relic Dev Team.
Last edited by Balalaika; Feb 6, 2023 @ 1:46am
✪ Battle Fox ✪ Feb 6, 2023 @ 2:03am 
Since people keep asking or debating this after it has already been answered...

The developers announced (numerous times) that the Deutschland Afrika Corps in the game are 'based' on the Desert Afrika Corps. Think of the Oberkommando West faction in CoH 2.

Tiger tanks WERE used in Africa by German forces. In fact, one of the last operational Tiger tanks that still exists today (Tiger 131) was captured during this conflict. Relic, or Lelic as you so humorously like to say, have visited and inspected the real physical vehicle, made recordings of it's sounds and taken images of the tank.

(Starship Troopers voice) Would you like to know more?

YT Vids below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hraMqEftPPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svir2ClIt_E

Now the question has been answered and with greater context, and you get to enjoy learning about some big cats.
ElokoMs Feb 6, 2023 @ 3:20am 
Originally posted by ★ Fox ★:
Relic, or Lelic as you so humorously like to say, have visited and inspected the real physical vehicle, made recordings of it's sounds and taken images of the tank.

Hm, have my doubts about such statements, if I compare e.g. the ingame Famo recovery vehicle with the real Famo.
Spectre57 Feb 6, 2023 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by ★ Fox ★:
Since people keep asking or debating this after it has already been answered...

The developers announced (numerous times) that the Deutschland Afrika Corps in the game are 'based' on the Desert Afrika Corps. Think of the Oberkommando West faction in CoH 2.

Tiger tanks WERE used in Africa by German forces. In fact, one of the last operational Tiger tanks that still exists today (Tiger 131) was captured during this conflict. Relic, or Lelic as you so humorously like to say, have visited and inspected the real physical vehicle, made recordings of it's sounds and taken images of the tank.

(Starship Troopers voice) Would you like to know more?

YT Vids below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hraMqEftPPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svir2ClIt_E

Now the question has been answered and with greater context, and you get to enjoy learning about some big cats.

There were only up to 11 Tiger tanks operational in the 501st in Africa at any given time, though, and at the beginning, there were literally 3. (Most were sent to 502nd.)
It should be a doctrine unit for them like it is for the Wehr, it's odd they have it standard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501st_Heavy_Panzer_Battalion
MVRK99 Feb 6, 2023 @ 10:36pm 
Have you ever heard of Tiger 131? My god... this thread, lol.
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