Classes need to be MORE specific

[Forge Master]

You really dilute the meaning of a class when everyone can do everything, right? Take the Fighter (Warrior, whatever he is called) for example. What's his weakness. High HP, Hits hard, often and many, amazing defense, can also whip out ranged weapons... What's his literal draw back? NOTHING!

They need remove the ranged stuff for the Warrior and Cleric, leave that stuff to the Mages and add an Archer class. Then remove the two skill sets, cause that stuff is confusing, having to switch back and fourth. You can't really have a role, if your character's stuff is all over the place.

The game's not bad.. but the environment seems too grainy. One class is clearly assuming dominance. Too much baggage on each class (Swapping between two skill sets is WEIRD), when it should be a fine, single skill set and specific, clear cut battle role capability essentially.

Take a page out of Dark and Darker. GREAT example of proper classes. They have tight roles, excel VERY well what they are designed for.

[MrGergoth]

Oh no, another *warrior is op* post from zero-playtime guy.

[Forge Master]

Originally posted by MrGergoth:

Oh no, another *warrior is op* post from zero-playtime guy.

I've played two matches. Didn't take long to figure out the classes bruh

[MrGergoth]

Originally posted by Forge:

Originally posted by MrGergoth:

Oh no, another *warrior is op* post from zero-playtime guy.

I've played two matches. Didn't take long to figure out the classes bruh

Okay, if you really wanna hear - let me explain.
Warriors are fat and hit strong for newcommers when mage have dunno... 80 hp? But mages are good and also hit hard. Mages required a bit more playtime to undestand how to play, but they can easy beat warrior 1v1. Swappin weapons, avoid attacks with blink, use aoe at the time - you need play a bit more and get more info about how to use skill at the time and what to use.
*Warrior is op* it newcommers trap.

[jey123456]

Warrior, like most other game with a bruiser, is the "easy beginner class" you go in you swing the sword randomly hit the skills and you win.

Skilled mage will dominate a skilled warrior at distance, especially at higher level when CP become more limiting. Just like a skilled warrior will destroy a mage in close range due to their ability to survive long enough to kill the mage.

Cleric is, well, cleric, inferior melee, superior critical hit, and support skills. a cleric + warrior tend to be superior to 2 warriors because warrior have the hp to buffer some dmg between heal.

Unfortunately cleric + mage isnt nearly as good a combo, theres holy protection that help a bit, but its often ignored by the mages and you cant really target it on someone so it can be easily wasted.

[sic_magg0t]

So this post is the one where I think I can start saying "you wouldn't have survived a day in Happy Wars"
And if you can't laugh at that, I'm sorry I can't save you.

[DoppGanger]

Originally posted by Forge:

Originally posted by MrGergoth:

Oh no, another *warrior is op* post from zero-playtime guy.

I've played two matches. Didn't take long to figure out the classes bruh

Bro really said he played 2 matches and understands the game now lmao, can't even take you serious.

[99dSFMu12]

Specific about what lmao, warrior is melee based, cleric is a weaker warrior with support skills and mages are, well, mages

The only "wrong" thing are Warrior being able to use guns but if they dont then they are at disadvantage vs cleric and mages (2 skill slot vs 4)

[Forge Master]

Originally posted by 99dSFMu12:

Specific about what lmao, warrior is melee based, cleric is a weaker warrior with support skills and mages are, well, mages

They can also whip out ranged weapons? They have two different skill sets that can switch to? The more classes that have ranged, the less the point for ones that are strictly range.. such as the Mage. And each class has two skill sets they can swap between in battle.. when ♥♥♥♥ gets heated, people ain't got time for that. Keep it simple. One set per class and create a Archer / Ranger class to fill in the loss of range for Warriors and Clerics

[99dSFMu12]

This guy doesnt know lighting + ice spear combo huh

[Forge Master]

Originally posted by 99dSFMu12:

This guy doesnt know lighting + ice spear combo huh

I do.. which also shouldn't be a thing. If each class had only one skill set.. they would have to build two separate builds. ONE build for Lightning... then another for Ice Spear.. And if you want to use one, then switch to the other, you'd have to redeploy... but instead.. we essentially have two builds in one for any character we are currently using.

Which is too diluted if you ask me.

[99dSFMu12]

I get what you mean but that system isnt going to change, otherwise the entire game has to change, and at that point just port over happy wars again.

Warriors could have 2 sets of swords i guess but then they would be the worse cleric instead

[Forge Master]

Originally posted by 99dSFMu12:

I get what you mean but that system isnt going to change, otherwise the entire game has to change, and at that point just port over happy wars again.

Warriors could have 2 sets of swords i guess but then they would be the worse cleric instead

What is even Happy Wars?

[Icarus]

Originally posted by Forge:

You really dilute the meaning of a class when everyone can do everything, right? Take the Fighter (Warrior, whatever he is called) for example. What's his weakness. High HP, Hits hard, often and many, amazing defense, can also whip out ranged weapons... What's his literal draw back? NOTHING!

They need remove the ranged stuff for the Warrior and Cleric, leave that stuff to the Mages and add an Archer class. Then remove the two skill sets, cause that stuff is confusing, having to switch back and fourth. You can't really have a role, if your character's stuff is all over the place.

The game's not bad.. but the environment seems too grainy. One class is clearly assuming dominance. Too much baggage on each class (Swapping between two skill sets is WEIRD), when it should be a fine, single skill set and specific, clear cut battle role capability essentially.

Take a page out of Dark and Darker. GREAT example of proper classes. They have tight roles, excel VERY well what they are designed for.

His drawback is that the crossbows are extremely mediocre and not very good at dealing damage or doing anything, really. It's just there so you have something to tickle with at range.

[Kitty Katyusha]

Originally posted by Forge:

Originally posted by MrGergoth:

Oh no, another *warrior is op* post from zero-playtime guy.

I've played two matches. Didn't take long to figure out the classes bruh

lol.. you have no clue what you are even talking about then. The combat might seem shallow but there is allot to it and most classes have a high skill ceiling. IMO all classes are balanced for their roles.

[Kitty Katyusha]

Originally posted by Icarus:

Originally posted by Forge:

You really dilute the meaning of a class when everyone can do everything, right? Take the Fighter (Warrior, whatever he is called) for example. What's his weakness. High HP, Hits hard, often and many, amazing defense, can also whip out ranged weapons... What's his literal draw back? NOTHING!

They need remove the ranged stuff for the Warrior and Cleric, leave that stuff to the Mages and add an Archer class. Then remove the two skill sets, cause that stuff is confusing, having to switch back and fourth. You can't really have a role, if your character's stuff is all over the place.

The game's not bad.. but the environment seems too grainy. One class is clearly assuming dominance. Too much baggage on each class (Swapping between two skill sets is WEIRD), when it should be a fine, single skill set and specific, clear cut battle role capability essentially.

Take a page out of Dark and Darker. GREAT example of proper classes. They have tight roles, excel VERY well what they are designed for.

His drawback is that the crossbows are extremely mediocre and not very good at dealing damage or doing anything, really. It's just there so you have something to tickle with at range.

Hunting Crossbow >= Ice Spear