can this beat M.a.s.s. creativity and possibilitys in creation?

[Strayminds]

i use this https://store.steampowered.com/app/956680/MASS_Builder/ to scratch my mecha itch and anything that has more to offer in customisation would be appreciated but i somehow doubt it

[cniudae]

No, but will be close and easier to do .
MASS go a few steps ahead in the customization, but only a few . You have less freedom, but the parts have some bells and whistles.
M.A.S.S. was probably inspired by the series

[I Can Imagine Anything]

M.A.S.S. leaned in hard on the "absolute freedom" of mech customization, what with part weight being the only really important difference between them. Gundam Breaker is more like Armored Core, where part selection does matter quite a bit, and it's unlikely they'll allow you that same absolute freedom. Gundam Breaker is more focused on the actual combat gameplay, while still offering a very high degree of customization.

[FentaRino]

Originally posted by POO CHUNKS:

M.A.S.S. leaned in hard on the "absolute freedom" of mech customization, what with part weight being the only really important difference between them. Gundam Breaker is more like Armored Core, where part selection does matter quite a bit, and it's unlikely they'll allow you that same absolute freedom. Gundam Breaker is more focused on the actual combat gameplay, while still offering a very high degree of customization.

GB3 parts didnt matter that much tbh

[Rutile]

Originally posted by Dan:

Originally posted by POO CHUNKS:

M.A.S.S. leaned in hard on the "absolute freedom" of mech customization, what with part weight being the only really important difference between them. Gundam Breaker is more like Armored Core, where part selection does matter quite a bit, and it's unlikely they'll allow you that same absolute freedom. Gundam Breaker is more focused on the actual combat gameplay, while still offering a very high degree of customization.

GB3 parts didnt matter that much tbh

More than MASS, at least. Last I checked (I played Mass through family sharing years ago), Mass doesn't care what frame parts you use. All the stats/upgrades were in the OS skill tree (or whatever it's called). At least in GB3, even when you can inherit away the abilities and EX Actions, you still had the Option equipment tied to the part. And while stats are uniform between parts, you still upgrade/give them abilities separately. MASS' outer parts were just cosmetic.

[FentaRino]

Originally posted by Rutile:

Originally posted by Dan:

GB3 parts didnt matter that much tbh

More than MASS, at least. Last I checked (I played Mass through family sharing years ago), Mass doesn't care what frame parts you use. All the stats/upgrades were in the OS skill tree (or whatever it's called). At least in GB3, even when you can inherit away the abilities and EX Actions, you still had the Option equipment tied to the part. And while stats are uniform between parts, you still upgrade/give them abilities separately. MASS' outer parts were just cosmetic.

Oh compared to mass you mean

[Just Life]

If you like mech customization, give this game a try. It allows for a lot of creativity and funny jank but, the gameplay is very shallow. I highly recommend once you have your customized mech made, just play on higher difficulty to some challenge out of the game.

Example: One of my mech can fire 40 missiles volley per lock on and have 6 Gatling gun. It put Gundam Heavyarms to shame.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2328310/CUSTOM_MECH_WARS/

Some of the things the community made:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3130114619
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3130114810
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3117731281
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3126661090
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3146296404
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3133953425

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3125801754

[Bigboss PC Faster]

No,but gameplay is more fun

[Prof.Paradox]

Originally posted by Dan:

Originally posted by POO CHUNKS:

M.A.S.S. leaned in hard on the "absolute freedom" of mech customization, what with part weight being the only really important difference between them. Gundam Breaker is more like Armored Core, where part selection does matter quite a bit, and it's unlikely they'll allow you that same absolute freedom. Gundam Breaker is more focused on the actual combat gameplay, while still offering a very high degree of customization.

GB3 parts didnt matter that much tbh

if you wanted to use certain signature attacks they do, cant use burning finger whitout shining parts for example, pretty sure they had to be the hands tho.

[MechaDeka]

Originally posted by Prof.Paradox:

Originally posted by Dan:

GB3 parts didnt matter that much tbh

if you wanted to use certain signature attacks they do, cant use burning finger whitout shining parts for example, pretty sure they had to be the hands tho.

Shining Finger was an EX move and thus can be used with any parts once you level it up enough to learn it.

[sofia ciel]

Originally posted by MechaDeka:

Originally posted by Prof.Paradox:

if you wanted to use certain signature attacks they do, cant use burning finger whitout shining parts for example, pretty sure they had to be the hands tho.

Shining Finger was an EX move and thus can be used with any parts once you level it up enough to learn it.

Unless things will be different in the final version of GB4, I didn't see any EXP gauges for the EX moves in the network test, so i dunno if you'll be able to unlock certain attacks as universal actions by using them enough.

[giroexspress]

GB4 will NEVER beat mass builder and especially a completed MB in terms of aesthetic potential...

What WILL beat it in is a unified aesthetic experience. We are here to build MOBILE SUITS with mobile suit parts all under the banner of gundam. Even with variations in style between universes it's all gundam enough for something to work without breaking the game.

[Outsider]

Mass Builder's creativity is purely cosmetic. All those wings, swords, bells and whistles are just for show.
In numbered GB games, if you attach sword somewhere to your robot, you can swing it.

[NPC_CO8ALT]

Mass Builder only LOOKED pretty. All that customization currently means nothing because they STILL have no solid gameplay to back it up. You basically just build a fancy 3d model to show your friends at this point.

[MechaDeka]

From what I've played, Mass Builder is basically just a wish list of customization features the dev wanted in Gundam Breaker, and most of those features are in GB4. And Breaker has, you know, actual gameplay and appealing mecha design.

[Aryend]

Nah, in MASS Builder I have Cell, a Space Marine and Darkseid as mechs, doubt I'm gonna be able to do this here.
That said, as many people mentioned already, MASS Builder's customization is it's only strongpoint really, as gameplay and content is just serviceable and the customization is mostly for show. Which is why GB4 will probably be the more fun and complete game.