So am i the only one that noticed Ralsei is clearly hiding something?

[DearestRook25]

First off, how did he get to the library? All the other darkeners need the help of lighteners to travel between the dark worlds (example: Lancer and stupid puzzle man who go into your pocket) but Ralsei just kind of shows up at the cyber world with no apparent explanation.

A weird thing that is pointed out when you examine the small closet inside the library computer room is how someone could fit in there. That does seem out of nowhere but if you remember the locked door inside of the school room that chapter 1 takes place inside of the game may be hinting at the fact someone was in hiding while Kris and Susie adventure into the dark worlds.

While Lancer and annoying dumb puzzle man turn into statues inside of the library dark world Ralsei does not. Why is that? This is either a dumb plot flaw that wasnt explained or a clue that Ralsei may not be who he says he is. He does after all know what Kris's room looks like and has a clear resemblance to Asriel from Undertale. My personal theory is that Ralsei is actually a disguised Asriel that is somehow following you into the dark worlds and going into adventures with the other protagonists with the objective of wiping out all the dark fountains.

If you dont like my theory remember just a theory a game theory thanks for watching i mean reading

[Lavodan]

引用自 zacharyhaseman0827：

The closet is big enough so that kris can hide berdly's body when he absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ dies in the alt ending

Lmao. Worst part is, this could be true

[txh0881]

My theory is that Ralsie is heartless Kris's imaginary friend, based on an idealized version of his brother. He plays the part of a hero when Kris has a heart, to steer the heroes in the direction that heartless Kris wants them to go.

Basically, heartless Kris opens up Fountains, Kris and co befriends everyone, and then transplants them to Ralsie's world, secretly making Ralsie's world more and more powerful. and the heroes do this willingly, because they think that they are helping.

I predict that something very bad will happen when Asriel returns, probably at the end of Chapter 5 (Store page says Chapter 3-5 are coming, but the end page shows 7 chapters. It is the perfect hook to keep us hyped for chapter 6-7)

Either Ralsie will be the final boss of Chapter 7, or Ralsie will be Chapter 6's final boss, and heartless Kris will be the final boss of Chapter 7.

Just a theory, though.

[Magero]

引用自 txh0881：

My theory is that Ralsie is heartless Kris's imaginary friend, based on an idealized version of his brother. He plays the part of a hero when Kris has a heart, to steer the heroes in the direction that heartless Kris wants them to go.

Basically, heartless Kris opens up Fountains, Kris and co befriends everyone, and then transplants them to Ralsie's world, secretly making Ralsie's world more and more powerful. and the heroes do this willingly, because they think that they are helping.

I predict that something very bad will happen when Asriel returns, probably at the end of Chapter 5 (Store page says Chapter 3-5 are coming, but the end page shows 7 chapters. It is the perfect hook to keep us hyped for chapter 6-7)

Either Ralsie will be the final boss of Chapter 7, or Ralsie will be Chapter 6's final boss, and heartless Kris will be the final boss of Chapter 7.

Just a theory, though.

I like this one too. Also, it adds up to what I've said and we could add, as you pointed out : Ralsie/Asriel is toxic and befriends Kris's friends so he can much more easily steal them with his manipulative behavior, he ""recruits"" them (hence the "recruiting" gameplay) but for HIS kingdom and somehow, I sense that when Asriel will return, Kris will loose all of his friends and darkworld's friends BECAUSE Ralsie RECRUITS them for HIS kingdom that, conviently, is the ONLY ONE who is ALLOWED to exist.

It's weird that, for now, for 2 chapters and the ending of this one, the darkworlds fountains are opening on social spaces : a classroom used for playing games, a library, a living room with a TV... All spaces when you can socialize with people, make friends, etc... So, Kris opens a fountain here, makes new imaginary friends and then Ralsie comes and say "Oh no no no, this is no good, apocalypse, let's close this and all come to MY kingdom where you can ALL live as MY SUBJECTS."

Maybe I'm theorizing too much but I really feel like we're onto something like this...

[Lord Rumpkin]

It was pretty odd how Ralsei just shows up. Did he even say hello? I feel like I blinked and missed it.

[Worgen Freeman]

Did Ralsei talk to or get talked to by Noelle or Berdly? I remember waiting for Ralsei to be introduced to them and I don't recall it ever happening and the more I think about it the more I'm not sure they ever really interacted with each other.

[The Vulpan]

引用自 Worgen Freeman：

Did Ralsei talk to or get talked to by Noelle or Berdly? I remember waiting for Ralsei to be introduced to them and I don't recall it ever happening and the more I think about it the more I'm not sure they ever really interacted with each other.

Actually, I did find it weird that they didnt even ask who he was. They did interact at the end of the giga queen boss, but other than that. I dont recall

[Worgen Freeman]

引用自 The Vulpan：

引用自 Worgen Freeman：

Did Ralsei talk to or get talked to by Noelle or Berdly? I remember waiting for Ralsei to be introduced to them and I don't recall it ever happening and the more I think about it the more I'm not sure they ever really interacted with each other.

Actually, I did find it weird that they didnt even ask who he was. They did interact at the end of the giga queen boss, but other than that. I dont recall

Hmm, did they directly talk or talk to someone else?

Normally I would assume that forgetting introductions would just be an oversight but with a Toby Fox game... I would assume there is more to it.

[VIVIT!]

Yall wana hear a crack pot theory? what if ralsei is acutely asriel from the undertale universe that somehow hopped AUs and hid in the dark world lmao. (this is a joke)

[Zenn]

Interestingly enough, if you complete the alternative ending, examining the closet in the computer lab has much darker implications.

[MT Foxtrot]

引用自 admittedGirthness：

Yall wana hear a crack pot theory? what if ralsei is acutely asriel from the undertale universe that somehow hopped AUs and hid in the dark world lmao. (this is a joke)

I like to think Ralsei is the red horn headband that Kris has to be more like a monster. We've already discovered that the Dark World inhabitants are real world objects come to life so it's not too far-fetched.

[Kokoro Wish]

Indeed, I've heard it posited that Ralsei is the manifestation of the toy horns Kris was given as a child to make them feel comfortable around monsters. They're a conflation of an idealised version of both Kris and their brother.

[Worgen Freeman]

引用自 Kokoro Wish：

Indeed, I've heard it posited that Ralsei is the manifestation of the toy horns Kris was given as a child to make them feel comfortable around monsters. They're a conflation of an idealised version of both Kris and their brother.

That's an interesting idea. But, what if Ralsei is instead a opposite version of Kris since it kinda sounds like without the player soul, Kris kinda sucks. Plus, we do know that without the soul, Kris is acting as the dark knight, spreading the dark fountains to destroy the world.

[Lavodan]

引用自 The Vulpan：

引用自 Worgen Freeman：

Did Ralsei talk to or get talked to by Noelle or Berdly? I remember waiting for Ralsei to be introduced to them and I don't recall it ever happening and the more I think about it the more I'm not sure they ever really interacted with each other.

Actually, I did find it weird that they didnt even ask who he was. They did interact at the end of the giga queen boss, but other than that. I dont recall

There was one more that I can think of, a little bit after meeting noelle after getting split up, you can go up on some screen, and you can see Susie and Ralsei talking and enjoying themselves, and Im pretty sure that Noelle comments on that

[The Vulpan]

引用自 Kokoro Wish：

Indeed, I've heard it posited that Ralsei is the manifestation of the toy horns Kris was given as a child to make them feel comfortable around monsters. They're a conflation of an idealised version of both Kris and their brother.

That would solve the origins of Ralsei, effectively making him the same as Lancer, Seam and Rouxls Kaard as just objects brought to life. However, that fact that Berdly and Noelle barely talked to him in Chapter 2 and that he kept his identity a secret until the end of Chapter 1 still points to something more.

Furthermore, a requirement for the characters other than the real world characters to appear in the dark world is the object used to represent them must be present. Hence why lancer didn't appear until after Kris retrieved the items from the classroom. Those toy horns arent seen anyware other than the house and they arent in the lab or the classroom. So it still adds to the questions.

We also haven't seen the inside of the closet yet. We have seen the computer lab and the classroom but not the closet. Maybe something in there represents ralsei

[Toxi]

there is definitely something that fluffy goat boi is hiding, that much is clear now with Chapter 2..

my guess is on a sad backstory, the full version of his introduction in chapter 1. I just have this feeling his previous introduction was an abridged version.